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MTEC burn out

No its not another "oh, my MTEC burned out WTF". I was very pleased with its preformance. It lasted a lil over a year (even with the hell i gave em) and I am happy with that. Is there any other brand though you would recommend? I dont wanna go overboard and do HID's. I just want a nice bulb possibly PIAA's or another set of MTEC's. What do you think?

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fonz182 Nov 5, 4:53am - #318442 

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geez from all this stuff ive been hearing im goin piaa
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ghostingcelica Nov 5, 4:54am - #318443 
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y's the left side always the side that burns out ahha
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ChiNeyBwoy Nov 5, 5:44am - #318444 

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yea my left just went out a couple nights ago, brand new too
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Blue_Bomber Nov 5, 5:47am - #318445 
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Originally Posted by fonz182
geez from all this stuff ive been hearing im goin piaa
Don't expect them to be any better, just more expensive.
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DJ_Curtiz Nov 5, 6:38am - #318446 
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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber

Originally Posted by fonz182

geez from all this stuff ive been hearing im goin piaa
Don't expect them to be any better, just more expensive.
dont expect them not to be any better, Lifetime warranty sounds a lil better to me but damm the price $$$$ I love Mtecs but man, ever since I saw the PIAA PLASMA BLUE's on that one dudes ride, I wass blown away.. 7500K!!!!!! eek eek eek the hlaf set is gunna set me back like $170 but for that clean blue HID look it seems worth it.. whats your opinions idunno

also, I found these guys https://www.eurodezigns.com/shop/detail.aspx?ID=89 who claim to have made a 6000k bulb for $25 confused and claim it to have a deffinate HID look... they claim to manufacture everything themselves http://www.eurodezigns.com/ED_factory.htm anyone heard of these ppl ???

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10celica10 Nov 5, 6:52am - #318447 
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ToiletPaper Nov 5, 7:14am - #318448 
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you should just save up for hids. its totally worth it, and you'll be saving money in the long run.
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DJ_Curtiz Nov 5, 7:14am - #318449 
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**update** well I placed an order with these guys, sheesh I have never gone with anything else but MTECS but I pretty much read their whole site through and it seemed legit, I will post pics up as soon as they r installed thumbsup

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DJ_Curtiz Nov 5, 7:16am - #318450 
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Originally Posted by ToiletPaper

you should just save up for hids. its totally worth it, and you'll be saving money in the long run.
you know I have been pondering on that thought for the longest time now and maybe your right, this will be my last set of bulbs I buy and if Im not satisfied with them, Ill be saving for HID's fou shou rice

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Stephen Nov 5, 9:00am - #318451 
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yah, i think i might go with HIDs eventually. no sense posing wink
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RevMonster Nov 5, 9:02am - #318452 

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Originally Posted by fonz182
geez from all this stuff ive been hearing im goin piaa


Hey, he said his MTEC bulbs lasted over a year. That's not bad even for stock bulbs.
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Akita Nov 5, 1:12pm - #318453 

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No way! my left side Mtec just burnt out too, unfortunately I have only had them in for a month or so frown
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PIAA and MTEC are equally just as good
they burn out because you didn't handle them correctly.

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DJ_Curtiz Nov 5, 3:58pm - #318455 
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Isaac knows how ofen I get them form him and I install mine properly with latex gloves ... idunnoI just think its time to try sommin new you know grin

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yea, definately...you get what you want to have

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Clos Nov 12, 2:13pm - #318457 
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the best way to do this is by taking out the headlights and installing them wile the headlight is off and nothing hits it thumbsup
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isaac Nov 12, 2:27pm - #318458 
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WOW eek... out of the 200 to 300 sets of MTEC Bulbs that we sell on ecelica each month (not including all the hundreds of ebay mtec sales that others do), only a few people have said anything about their burn-outs in comparison (thats an incredibly small ratio)

Its interesting though that most people only have problems with their LEFT SIDE bulb burning out... the last time I checked, there was not a specific LEFT vs RIGHT printed to each bulb - it's just simply picking a bulb and installing to whichever side you choose to install it to. This just proves that many people have a hard time installing bulbs (ANY BRAND) to the LEFT SIDE of their Celica spineyes

I too have had problems installing and had blown a few bulbs - but this was several years ago... long before MTEC was available and I had been using SHOWOFF Brand Bulbs. Once I learned how to correctly install the bulbs, I didnt have a single burn out with SHOWOFF for an entire year - At which time, I upgraded to MTEC. It's been since September 2002 that I've had my current set of MTEC H7 and 9005 Bulbs installed

If you were at this event... https://www.celicahobby.com/gal3/20020922 - you probably watched me change/upgrade them from SHOWOFF to MTEC... they've been running strong ever since thumbsup

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ragingpaseo Nov 12, 4:59pm - #318459 
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Originally Posted by DJ_Curtiz
**update** well I placed an order with these guys, sheesh I have never gone with anything else but MTECS but I pretty much read their whole site through and it seemed legit, I will post pics up as soon as they r installed thumbsup

i'm wondering about those bulbs too...
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isaac Nov 12, 5:21pm - #318460 
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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by DJ_Curtiz
**update** well I placed an order with these guys, sheesh I have never gone with anything else but MTECS but I pretty much read their whole site through and it seemed legit, I will post pics up as soon as they r installed thumbsup

i'm wondering about those bulbs too...


Jack, I can get these bulbs at not problem as well... I'm going to see if I can pick up a set of H7 for you this afternoon and ship them out your way (don't worry about the $$$, Ill cover whatever needs to be covered in the cost and shipping) as per our discussion last Tuesday (when i was headed to SEMA). If they are available and I do get them this afternoon, Ill call your cell again

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my mtec driver fog died, and i handled all my aftermarket bulbs with surgeons gloves and extreme care. wtf confused

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I have never had any problem with MTEC. The only reason I got rid of them is because I have HIDs.

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Blue_Bomber Nov 12, 8:16pm - #318464 
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
PIAA and MTEC are equally just as good
they burn out because you didn't handle them correctly.

Incorrect. If you touched the bulb, they'd explode. Burnt out filaments are nobody's fault but the manufacturer's.
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ragingpaseo Nov 12, 8:20pm - #318465 
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Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by DJ_Curtiz
**update** well I placed an order with these guys, sheesh I have never gone with anything else but MTECS but I pretty much read their whole site through and it seemed legit, I will post pics up as soon as they r installed thumbsup

i'm wondering about those bulbs too...


Jack, I can get these bulbs at not problem as well... I'm going to see if I can pick up a set of H7 for you this afternoon and ship them out your way (don't worry about the $$$, Ill cover whatever needs to be covered in the cost and shipping) as per our discussion last Tuesday (when i was headed to SEMA). If they are available and I do get them this afternoon, Ill call your cell again

eh...cool! grin thanks man. oh yeah, what the heatshield thingy?
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00celica00gt Nov 12, 10:39pm - #318466 

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they burn out so quick because they are more powerfull.

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the left one burned out in the GT a few days ago.

No, Billy, I didn't touch the bulb wink I took the whole headlight off the car, and installed it with a latex glove on because I have gorilla's paws for hands. rofl

I just put the stock ones back in, no sense hassling with it anymore spineyes

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isaac Nov 13, 12:49am - #318468 
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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by DJ_Curtiz
**update** well I placed an order with these guys, sheesh I have never gone with anything else but MTECS but I pretty much read their whole site through and it seemed legit, I will post pics up as soon as they r installed thumbsup

i'm wondering about those bulbs too...


Jack, I can get these bulbs at not problem as well... I'm going to see if I can pick up a set of H7 for you this afternoon and ship them out your way (don't worry about the $$$, Ill cover whatever needs to be covered in the cost and shipping) as per our discussion last Tuesday (when i was headed to SEMA). If they are available and I do get them this afternoon, Ill call your cell again

eh...cool! grin thanks man. oh yeah, what the heatshield thingy?


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ragingpaseo Nov 13, 7:42am - #318469 
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^copy that, and thank you sir... thumbsup
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Originally Posted by 10celica10
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Same here.


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isaac Nov 13, 6:35pm - #318471 
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You did know...

Even though you used gloves during the install, still doesn't mean you should touch the glass.

AND even though you used gloves, that still doesn't mean you shouldn't worry if the bulb glass touches engine dirt/grime while sliding it into the headlight enclosure rolleyes

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ArumnDark Nov 13, 7:27pm - #318472 
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I had trouble installing my right side bulb, the left went very smoothly. The left had some sputtering and died in an hour or two... While the right has been in and working for a week or two. *shrug* =)

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Blue_Bomber Nov 13, 7:40pm - #318473 
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Originally Posted by isaac
You did know...

Even though you used gloves during the install, still doesn't mean you should touch the glass.

AND even though you used gloves, that still doesn't mean you shouldn't worry if the bulb glass touches engine dirt/grime while sliding it into the headlight enclosure rolleyes

True, but the only thing that could happen from contaminating or scratching the glass would be that it would either start bubbling, or it would explode. It wouldn't affect filament life in the least as long as the bulb was still intact.
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isaac Nov 13, 9:13pm - #318474 
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^^^ not entirely true.

...for a person who gave up with ALL aftermarket bulbs because you couldn't figure them out - you sure seem to be full of a lot of information rolleyes

By contaminating or scratching the glass, the glass would blister (bubble or change shape) creating a tiny leak in it and allow Oxygen into the glass envelope and EITHER shatter it or at the very least, may oxidize the filament or break the filament - WITHOUT breaking the glass.

Another reason why filaments would prematurely break is If you have an electrical short on the same circuit that your lighting is installed to, and the fuse does not break as it should, this may cause your light bulb (or light bulbs) premature failure.

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Couldn't a foreign substance on the glass (ie skin oil) keep the surface of the bulb from cooling, thus increasing the internal temp of the bulb, shortening filament life?

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Blue_Bomber Nov 14, 12:38am - #318476 
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Originally Posted by isaac
...for a person who gave up with ALL aftermarket bulbs because you couldn't figure them out - you sure seem to be full of a lot of information rolleyes

Actually, I gave up the bulbs because I did figure them out, and there's no happy compromise between color, visibility, and lifespan.

Originally Posted by isaac
By contaminating or scratching the glass, the glass would blister (bubble or change shape) creating a tiny leak in it and allow Oxygen into the glass envelope and EITHER shatter it or at the very least, may oxidize the filament or break the filament - WITHOUT breaking the glass.
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It wouldn't affect filament life in the least as long as the bulb was still intact.

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Blue_Bomber Nov 14, 12:39am - #318477 
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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Couldn't a foreign substance on the glass (ie skin oil) keep the surface of the bulb from cooling, thus increasing the internal temp of the bulb, shortening filament life?

It could, but there would definitely be signs of that when you remove the bulb. The glass would become distorted, possibly even bubbling up depending on how long it took the filament to burn out.
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By contaminating or scratching the glass, the glass would blister (bubble or change shape) creating a tiny leak in it and allow Oxygen into the glass envelope and EITHER shatter it or at the very least, may oxidize the filament or break the filament - WITHOUT breaking the glass.

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i have to disagree on bulbs not giving you better visibility
my piaa's and mtec low give me way better than the stock bulbs, i couldn't see anything
even with my low's on and my fogs, people say they are bright when they see it and when im behind them
and nothing has happened to mine and they been used for 2 years.

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Believe what you want, but it's physically impossible for a bulb with a colored tint to produce brighter light than a clear bulb, unless it uses a higher wattage. It's kind of like saying window tint will make the sun shine brighter in the car, even with something as low as 90% (if tint like that actually exists wink ).
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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Believe what you want, but it's physically impossible for a bulb with a colored tint to produce brighter light than a clear bulb, unless it uses a higher wattage. It's kind of like saying window tint will make the sun shine brighter in the car, even with something as low as 90% (if tint like that actually exists wink ).


Many of the colored bulbs also use different materials for their filaments and different filler gases. wink
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Xenon filled halogen replacement bulbs utilizes a tinted glass envelope that actually increases the color temperature of the bulb closer to that of daylight, thus producing a significantly whiter light beam, resulting in greatly improved night vision by increasing contrast and providing better reflective properties. This special process dramatically increases the whiteness of the light with only a trace of blue hue at the headlight periphery. The addition of Xenon gas is used to cool the light filament, allowing the Halogen to process higher light output resulting in a 20-30 percent increase in perceived light.

Despite the blue glass, these light bulbs do not emit a "blue" beam of light, rather the light is so brilliantly white, that it is perceived as "bluish-white" when compared to regular halogen headlights.

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LOL, and crank pulleys don't wreck our oil pumps or grind away at our crank bearings because the companies that make them say so. rolleyes This is a little outdated, but it gives you an idea of what you're buying:

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information%20Pages/Auto%20Express%20H7%20Bulbs%20Test.htm
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And while on this topic...

There are several reason why it is good to upgrade your factory/stock lighting; in addition to over-all preception by others of your vehicle, also you will become tired less quickly and driving becomes more relaxed.

It is not the act of seeing which leads to tiredness and other negative effects, but the concentration involved. A road that is illuminated more brightly and widely by upgraded lighting reduces the amount of concentration needed, so that drivers do not become tired as quickly and can more easily concentrate on driving. Dangers are recognized more easily, especially those at the curb and shoulder areas, as well as, far ahead of the vehicle in the center of the road. Pedestrians or cyclists can be seen better, as can traffic signs along the edge of the road.

Additionally, upgraded bulbs radiate light that has a "light color" very similar to daylight that is welcomed by the human eye and increases contrast and ease of color identification. In poor weather conditions -- such as rain, fog or snow - drivers also have much improved spatial vision, which means that the drivers ability to orient themselves is easier despite adverse conditions. This means an enormous gain in safety and driving comfort.

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Polykarb Nov 14, 4:30am - #318485 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
PIAA and MTEC are equally just as good
they burn out because you didn't handle them correctly.

Incorrect. If you touched the bulb, they'd explode. Burnt out filaments are nobody's fault but the manufacturer's.



^^that quote owned this thread, it's done...

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isaac Nov 14, 4:42am - #318486 
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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
This is a little outdated, but it gives you an idea of what you're buying:

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information%20Pages/Auto%20Express%20H7%20Bulbs%20Test.htm


what's the date on this - and why doesn't it have any high performance Xenon bulbs in it's listing... most of the bulbs it lists are just general replacement bulbs that could be found at your local Autozone or Pepboys (or Ralphs/Vons/Rite-Aid/Savon) replacement parts isle (also notice the packaging of each of their photos)

Sure they listed "PIAA Super White"... but if you wanted to go buy that today, where the heck would you buy it from? PIAA doesn't even list it on it's website wave
http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H7.html

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isaac Nov 14, 4:44am - #318487 
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Originally Posted by Polykarb
Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
PIAA and MTEC are equally just as good
they burn out because you didn't handle them correctly.

Incorrect. If you touched the bulb, they'd explode. Burnt out filaments are nobody's fault but the manufacturer's.



^^that quote owned this thread, it's done...


WOW... Not reading this thread before replying - you just got owned rofl

"By contaminating or scratching the glass, the glass would blister (bubble or change shape) creating a tiny leak in it and allow Oxygen into the glass envelope and EITHER shatter it or at the very least, may oxidize the filament or break the filament - WITHOUT breaking the glass."

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DiabloGTS Nov 14, 4:44am - #318488 

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Isaac, by bulbs were in my GTS, sold the car put them in the GT...

After like 6-8 months they burned out spineyes

Plus, like 30,000 miles

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isaac Nov 14, 4:49am - #318489 
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Polykarb, although it doesn't happen too often, radically shaking the bulbs is NOT a manufacturing defect

have you even taken your car in for bodywork - the mechanic had to pound out a few dents and now an installed bulb (that previously worked) is no longer working... ANY body shop will tell you that this happens rice

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VSGTS14 Nov 14, 5:12am - #318490 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Believe what you want, but it's physically impossible for a bulb with a colored tint to produce brighter light than a clear bulb, unless it uses a higher wattage. It's kind of like saying window tint will make the sun shine brighter in the car, even with something as low as 90% (if tint like that actually exists wink ).


my bulbs are not tinted, they are clear

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