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badceli Nov 2, 6:24pm - #315997 
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Greddy E-manage piggy back ECU help please.

I just sent a PM to AZZKIKR to ask him for help on this, but I wanted to know what you guys thought also.
Anyway, the guy building my turbo kit is going to use this for my kit. I heard they will not work with our cars. What do you guys think.
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ravertony Nov 2, 7:08pm - #315998 
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i thought emanage was the only one, other than pfc, that worked confused
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badceli Nov 2, 7:21pm - #315999 
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Sorry ravertony, I don't know a damn thing about that kind of thing. I just read where AZZKIKR was telling somebody that piggy back systems don't work with our cars because our computer over rides them or something like that.
If you KNOW that they work, that would be good news.
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badceli Nov 2, 7:23pm - #316000 
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I want to sure about this before I question the guy buillding my turbo kit. Anybody know for sure if it works on our cars?
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ravertony Nov 2, 7:26pm - #316001 
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yeah i know the same.. piggy backs dont work.. but.. i dunno haha confused
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badceli Nov 2, 8:14pm - #316002 
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Well now you're just confusing me. Do you think they work or no?
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SLVCELI Nov 2, 8:20pm - #316003 
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The greddy emanage supposedly works. That and the power fc. The apexi safc is the one that doesnt work. I know monkeywrenchracing has been using it. You might want to call them and confirm.

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Rocketman Nov 2, 8:36pm - #316004 

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Originally Posted by badceli
I want to sure about this before I question the guy buillding my turbo kit. Anybody know for sure if it works on our cars?


Just use the Power FC. thumbsup
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badceli Nov 2, 9:16pm - #316005 
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Thanks SLVCELI and Rocketman,
Rocketman, why Power FC and not the Greddy? Sorry to keep asking stupid questions, but you guys are the pros and I just need to pick your brains on this for a minute. Thanks
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ravertony Nov 2, 10:34pm - #316006 
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one sure thing is the powerfc has way more features but cost way more $$$

pfc is used by members in these forums and they have some nice gains with the right tuning
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SLVCELI Nov 2, 10:37pm - #316007 
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If you have the money or want to go all out go powerfc. The only downfall to the powerfc is that if you get a cel from something going wrong with your car, you wont know it since the powerfc is a standalone unit. The emanage would work fine and might be the better way to go since you have a gt and its cheaper. I just would double check that it wont override since I dont want to give you false information but I am pretty sure it wont override. Good luck. Keep us informed. thumbsup

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c2gas Nov 3, 12:20am - #316008 

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They work well on the Celi. We use them for our turbo kits, even for st2 setups. if you need technical assistance pm me. If you live in an area where summer is hot and winter is soo cold then you may have to have 2 separete maps.
PFC is better and not better in some cases.
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umm contact XpunkjoeX or something like that...his name is Joey I think he has one.
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badceli Nov 3, 10:15am - #316010 
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Thank you very much ravertony, SLVCELI, c2gas, Virgilson,
I apreciate the help very much. If c2gas says they work, that's good enough for me.
c2gas, I will definitely be bugging you for more questions when I get ready to build the internals. If you don't mind. Thanks again.
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QTRMLR_1 Nov 3, 9:01pm - #316011 

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badceli, how's your smog tests in Texas? in your particular county? This is the most relevant question considering you are going turbo. If you don't need to pass an OBD-II functional test WITH your turbo installed, go with the PowerFC like others have said, if you have the money.
I all-capped "WITH" ^^ because if you want the superior performance of the PFC with your turbo and pass smog, you'll have these options:

1. Remove your turbo for your smog test and put in the stock ecu to run N/A.
2. Buy BOTH the e-manage and PFC, and remove the PFC and install the e-manage AND TUNE the e-manage for the smog test (still crossing your fingers you can pass with low boost running lean on 100 octane).
3. Keep the PFC and Turbo during smog test time and PAY SOMEONE off to pass you.

Number 2 is easier IMO than 1 which would be removing your whole turbo.

OR you can hold off for the Hydra EMS, which no one can even say when and if that will be out. The Hydra EMS supposedly will be better than the PFC and will be OBD-II compatible. But all that is left to be proven.

But since, you're getting your turbo now, I recommend the GReddy e-manage for you unless you want to follow one of the three options I listed. thumbsup

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badceli Nov 3, 9:37pm - #316012 
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QTRMLR_1,
Thank you very much. Now I really feel okay about getting the Greddy. I have been reading your post for awhile now. I wish I knew half of what you do.
There is no smog test here, so I'm good on that.
One more question I would love to know the answer to, maybe you would know. Next year I will buy everything there is to buy to build the hell out of my internals. How much hp do you think I can get out of my 1ZZ-FE? Is 350whp hoping for too much?
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c2gas Nov 3, 9:40pm - #316013 

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Originally Posted by badceli
QTRMLR_1,
Thank you very much. Now I really feel okay about getting the Greddy. I have been reading your post for awhile now. I wish I knew half of what you do.
There is no smog test here, so I'm good on that.
One more question I would love to know the answer to, maybe you would know. Next year I will buy everything there is to buy to build the hell out of my internals. How much hp do you think I can get out of my 1ZZ-FE? Is 350whp hoping for too much?

Nobody done that much before. The highest number is currently by MWR 304whp. We are 20 whp behind them. both measured at 14 psi. Actually it seems to be possible to go that high.
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badceli Nov 3, 10:00pm - #316014 
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c2gas,
Outstanding! So I'll be the first to hit 350whp. Just kidding. If you have not been able to do it, than how the hell am I? You think there will be enough aftermarket parts for us to have a fully built motor by next year? If so, you think our engine could handle 20 psi and a 50 shot of N2O just long enough on a dyno to hit those numbers?
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QTRMLR_1 Nov 3, 10:54pm - #316015 

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thanks, there's always so much more to know of course, but mostly I just make sure what I post is right before posting.

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c2gas Nov 3, 11:26pm - #316016 

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Originally Posted by badceli
c2gas,
Outstanding! So I'll be the first to hit 350whp. Just kidding. If you have not been able to do it, than how the hell am I? You think there will be enough aftermarket parts for us to have a fully built motor by next year? If so, you think our engine could handle 20 psi and a 50 shot of N2O just long enough on a dyno to hit those numbers?


Well it seems to be possible to hit 350whp, BUT the problem is not your engine with the upgradede internals. Our stock tranny broke into pcs at 18psi after a month ( we have straight cut gears now). So lets say after 300whp the project is getting very epensive.
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QTRMLR_1 Nov 4, 1:54am - #316017 

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right, it is possible as it has been done by MWR, and then some. 384.4 whp.
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/mwrmr2_s.html

but yes you will need one tough C2Power tranny or a lot of stock ones changed very often.

and the COST...all of the internal parts, turbo, turbo extras, engine management, factoring dyno time $, installation of internals (assuming you don't do it), sleeving (for longevity), pnp head, installation of the turbo, expensive race clutch, clutch install, tranny...
...tons of suspension work to put the power to the ground...drag slicks (trailor to track or change wheels at track).
oh yes you will want a 10pt or 12pt roll cage with 5pt harness or harnesses.

all means you have to LOVE the Celica and you are a diehard racer who loves to dominate on a track, to some extent.

ok, this is going off topic but for amusement:
you wouldn't be able to beat championship "street" Supras doing 9's or low 10's. but of course you could easily beat stock: Cobra's, M3's, Z06's, NSX's, Viper's, Lotus's (yes and our "soul" brother), and Ferrari's except for the F50. you would be in a driver's race with the F50, Lamborghini's, 911 GT2, and the McLaren F1. not bad IMO. and betting big $$$ with any of these guys you could easily win back your "investment".

so other motivations besides being a Celica fanatic or racer, would be getting "respect" and possibly some dough, in a car which would be an amazing sleeper. and keep the GT badge too. grin

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badceli Nov 4, 7:14am - #316018 
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QTRMLR_1,
Thank you very much. That was damn good to hear. Now I'm really excited about the engine build.
I know it will be very expensive, I don't mind that. I'm willing to spend the money to be one of the few people who can help put an end to all the talk about Celicas can never be that fast.
I just had a conversation with csheriff on his topic "What would you do" I was trying to convince him to keep his car. I failed. He wants something that is easy to mod and will beat a Ferrari.
Something about taking a car that looks as good as the Celica and is known for being one of the slowest cars out there and making it fast, is something that sounds very cool to me.
Would you mind if I told you all the parts that are going into my turbo kit right now and get your opinion on them?
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badceli Nov 4, 7:24am - #316019 
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One more question. There are about 4 guys on here that I think really know our engines (I'm sure there are more that I don't know of) Yourself, Blue_Bomber, AZZKIKR and c2gas.
Anyway, Blue_Bomber told me that I probably will never have a 12 second Celica because I have too much weight with my sound system and other things I need to win shows.
I have tried to keep it as light as I can, just one sub and 3 small amps.
Please tell me that it is possible to have a 12 second Celica show car with enough money or my dreams will be crushed.
I hope I didn't get it wrong what Blue_Bomber told me. He hates it when people say he said things that he didn't.
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I agree with your thoughts on the Celi. smile

sure...go ahead smile
but there really aren't that many sources for quality Celica parts so I probably can guess grin

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badceli Nov 4, 7:38am - #316021 
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Cool. Here is whats going on it right now...
Precision T3/T4 SC 32, waterjet flange, down pipe O2 sensor, 4 ply silicone boost couplings, 440cc injectors, Greddy E- manage piggy back ECU, Greddy boost controller, Greddy turbo timer, HKS BOV, High Flow intercooler, Walbro 225 high flow fuel pump and 3" exhaust from to turbo to the Turbo N-1.
What do think about these parts and would you choose a different Turbo? This Precision is good for 480hp, but I don't know a damn thing about them. Haven't found much info on them in my search. Not too late to change my mind on that yet.
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Be like Keith Ta a show car Supra with fully built motor. He drags his car and it's a monster. Do you remember that guy with the silver Veilside kit who dropped an All Trac motor in his Celica. He was a little show and dragged his Celica. He would always win the dyno competitions making insane amounts of power. The queen of dyno's!. You can also ask JohnsGT his is a member on here his friend Smaay from Controlled Inertia knows a ton about both motors GT & GTS. Hit John up he has a Turbo'd GT Stafford Kit on his ride and been driving it constantly around here also attends Celica meets. His friend Smaay has a GTS that is about to make history once his car comes out. I can't wait to see that thing on the track. C2Gas is the man as well specializes in Turbo's for Celica's for awhile now. They are all pro's at what they do who can help you with your goal bro. thumbsup

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GOLDCELICA Nov 4, 7:46am - #316023 

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Originally Posted by badceli
Cool. Here is whats going on it right now...
Precision T3/T4 SC 32, waterjet flange, down pipe O2 sensor, 4 ply silicone boost couplings, 440cc injectors, Greddy E- manage piggy back ECU, Greddy boost controller, Greddy turbo timer, HKS BOV, High Flow intercooler, Walbro 225 high flow fuel pump and 3" exhaust from to turbo to the Turbo N-1.
What do think about these parts and would you choose a different Turbo? This Precision is good for 480hp, but I don't know a damn thing about them. Haven't found much info on them in my search. Not too late to change my mind on that yet.


Ask for Keith Ta. He does some insane work on cars. And a ton of custom stuff. His Supra makes 1000HP. Show car too grin Another option for advice real great tons of knowledge too.

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MWR has over 370 hp out of a 1zz on their spider dont they???
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badceli Nov 4, 7:51am - #316025 
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Thanks Ryan,
I forgot to add you to the list of people who their shit.
Keith Ta is the reason I want a built motor. I was just going to add a turbo and a bunch of chrome and call it a day, but when he proved you can have both, I decided to go all out. I just have a bigger challange with mine being a Celica instead of a Supra.
I do know the guy with the 3SGTE engine. Don't think I'll be able to beat his numbers, but I don't need to be the fastest in the world, I just need to know that I did everything I could to the engine that I have.
Never heard of JohnsonGT. I'll look him up. Thanks.
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badceli Nov 4, 7:57am - #316026 
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Thanks again Ryan, I will definitely check them out.

spaztikid, 384.4 is what MWR made with theirs. I just found that out from QTRMLR_1 about 9 posts up from here.
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Originally Posted by badceli
Thanks again Ryan, I will definitely check them out.

spaztikid, 384.4 is what MWR made with theirs. I just found that out from QTRMLR_1 about 9 posts up from here.
eek
oh we got to raise boost then.lol
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badceli Nov 4, 3:58pm - #316028 
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Hell yes c2gas, see what that sucker can do. Go for 400whp. That's my new goal. Unless MWR hits 450whp, then my new goal would be 451whp.
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GOLDCELICA,
I meant to say "people who KNOW their shit."

Not "people who their shit". Stupid. I do that all the time. Think faster than I type.
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I just got a chance to look at the site QTRMLR_1 sent. That is one ugly MR2. Worst I've ever seen. And I love MR2's. But look at his damn numbers! That's awsome. 1/4 mile in 11.647
Is it safe to say that this must be the fastest street car there is with a 1ZZ-FE?
I wonder if they have done anything to shave the weight on that car? If the Celica is only 300lbs heavier then the MR2, or lighter if we shave weight, could we have an 11 second Celica if we do the same thing MWR did? Or does the MR2 being RWD and mid engine make that much of a difference?
Either way, I'm very excited knowing that I should be able to hit 400whp and get close to an 11 second 1/4 mile with my 1ZZ-FE Celica.
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Originally Posted by badceli
Cool. Here is whats going on it right now...
Precision T3/T4 SC 32, waterjet flange, down pipe O2 sensor, 4 ply silicone boost couplings, 440cc injectors, Greddy E- manage piggy back ECU, Greddy boost controller, Greddy turbo timer, HKS BOV, High Flow intercooler, Walbro 225 high flow fuel pump and 3" exhaust from to turbo to the Turbo N-1.
What do think about these parts and would you choose a different Turbo? This Precision is good for 480hp, but I don't know a damn thing about them. Haven't found much info on them in my search. Not too late to change my mind on that yet.


T3/T4 is a good choice in turbo in general for our cars. as far as that specific one I don't know since I don't have the compressor map for that turbo and then you have to do a lot of calculations or have a program do it for turbo selection. They say on their website that their Precision turbos powered 2002 NHRA sport compact champs. If that's true we at least know their pro turbos are good but we don't use pro size turbos of course.

That's all good on those parts as long as you can fit them all...it's all standard deal. BUT IMO the money you save is not worth the hassle putting together your own kit when you can get kits at very reasonable prices from either Stafford Fabrication or C2Power. But SF you will have to wait right now as they have a high demand. Boosted2.0 on that *other* site has graciously made a comprehensive install manual on the SF kit.

The GReddy e-manage is inferior to the PowerFC but is a piggyback like Split Second so it will allow you to have the possibility of passing smog. But you said you don't have to worry about smog where you live (I'm jealous) so I don't see why you shouldn't get the PowerFC.

I guess that addresses the parts you mentioned since I suggest you just get a kit which has items proven to work.
I believe the HKS BOV is an item of one of those kits. The fuel stuff is no big deal and Walbro is a good brand, but I like Matt at MWR so I would buy stuff like fuel pumps/injectors etc from him since he's a nice guy. And considering the turbo yes on 3" exhaust.

The parts you mentioned: are they a list of items a shop wants to install on your car as a custom Turbo? What is their price? Have they successfully installed these parts on other Celica GT's? Do they have proof? Can you contact the owner's of these vehicles? What is the reputation of the shop? Do they have the dyno and the skills to do proper tuning of the e-manage? These are all questions you have to address. My opinion is go with what is proven. That saves a lot of pain...

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badceli Nov 7, 5:01pm - #316032 
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QTRMLR_1,
Thank you much for the advise. The only reason I'm going with the custom turbo kit is because I am very picky about the way the pipes are ran as far as looks go. I don't like the way the kits run their pipes.
Shit. I have to go. I'll be back later to ask you a couple more things if you don't mind.
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QTRMLR_1 Nov 7, 10:14pm - #316033 

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ok, as long as the looks don't accomodate performance which I know you are interested in.

Are they almost done? or far into it?
Can you hold them off?

I don't want to delay you...but the Hydra EMS MAY be out early next year.

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Thanks QTRMLR_1.
I have to run right now, but I would like to ask you a couple more questions later if you don't mind.
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are you asking casually I don't mind or are you serious? of course I don't mind. just been awhile so I'm not sure.

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