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c2gas Nov 1, 8:44pm - #315170 

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Titanium valves? GT or GTS?

I would like to know if there is a need or interest for TITANIUM valves for our cars. We will work out a set for the GT or the GTS soon. Also if there is an interest on it I would like to know what is a reasonable price you would pay for them.
i am collecting info here first so feel free to add your opinion.
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EuRoBoYGT Nov 1, 8:49pm - #315171 

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well monkeywrench has valves for 319

i would be up for some for the gt since it will help with my all motor project thumbsup

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Illusive Nov 1, 8:55pm - #315172 
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it will cost an butt load of money to have them made, last time i checked into it it was over 2K.

not worth it.

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c2gas Nov 1, 9:12pm - #315173 

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The question is how much what you would pay for it,if you would be to buy a set.

I will do the research if it is possible to make them on that price.
I need info.(like 600$ would be ok...etc...)
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shonen Nov 2, 9:32pm - #315174 
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I think $600-800 would be a reasonable price for a set of titanium valves. You should also get Ti springs and retainers too, so maybe like $1000-$1500 for everything.
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c2gas Nov 3, 12:22am - #315175 

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Originally Posted by shonen
I think $600-800 would be a reasonable price for a set of titanium valves. You should also get Ti springs and retainers too, so maybe like $1000-$1500 for everything.

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EuRoBoYGT Nov 3, 12:27am - #315176 

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will if they will get good gains from them then that is a resonible price

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XxMerlinxX Nov 3, 5:01am - #315177 
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I don't know that you'd get any gains from valves, unless I'm missing something. It's only going to make them stronger, which would just mean you could boost/juice more. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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u can rev higher also
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FastCelicaGT22 Nov 3, 6:26am - #315179 

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anything over $700 wouldnt be competitive for the celica.

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silver Nov 3, 7:14am - #315180 
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
I don't know that you'd get any gains from valves, unless I'm missing something. It's only going to make them stronger, which would just mean you good boost/juice more. Correct me if I'm wrong.


They allow you to rev higher and therefore make more power (but not on stock cams or ECU).
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badceli Nov 3, 10:24am - #315181 
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c2gas,
You can put me down for a set of everything that I will need to have a fully built engine. I'm sure whatever price you come up with will be good.
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shonen Nov 3, 6:16pm - #315182 
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From what I've seen Honda Titanium valve sets go for $1200+ so I'm guessing its gonna cost us more, probably somewhere around $1500+ since its in less demand.
I'm hoping to keep my Celica NA so titanium valves would be great especially since they seem to be the weak link according to some manufacturers.

C2gas, who are you trying to get to make the valves?
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Originally Posted by shonen
From what I've seen Honda Titanium valve sets go for $1200+ so I'm guessing its gonna cost us more, probably somewhere around $1500+ since its in less demand.
I'm hoping to keep my Celica NA so titanium valves would be great especially since they seem to be the weak link according to some manufacturers.

C2gas, who are you trying to get to make the valves?


GAH! Thats a lot of money. Especially when you figure installation! However, it is definately needed!
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c2gas Nov 3, 6:49pm - #315184 

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Originally Posted by shonen
From what I've seen Honda Titanium valve sets go for $1200+ so I'm guessing its gonna cost us more, probably somewhere around $1500+ since its in less demand.
I'm hoping to keep my Celica NA so titanium valves would be great especially since they seem to be the weak link according to some manufacturers.

C2gas, who are you trying to get to make the valves?


No way we want to let the price that high. If we can do it it will be less. We are targeting the price ~800$. I dont want to outsource the job ,but do it in our production (c2power.com). I have allready ordered the material for it, and will do a set for sure. So we can see if we can do it right, and see the price of it when done.
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Illusive Nov 3, 11:34pm - #315185 
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Originally Posted by c2gas
Originally Posted by shonen
From what I've seen Honda Titanium valve sets go for $1200+ so I'm guessing its gonna cost us more, probably somewhere around $1500+ since its in less demand.
I'm hoping to keep my Celica NA so titanium valves would be great especially since they seem to be the weak link according to some manufacturers.

C2gas, who are you trying to get to make the valves?


No way we want to let the price that high. If we can do it it will be less. We are targeting the price ~800$. I dont want to outsource the job ,but do it in our production (c2power.com). I have allready ordered the material for it, and will do a set for sure. So we can see if we can do it right, and see the price of it when done.


titanium is a very stubborn material to work with. good luck

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c2gas Nov 3, 11:58pm - #315186 

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Originally Posted by Illusive
Originally Posted by c2gas
Originally Posted by shonen
From what I've seen Honda Titanium valve sets go for $1200+ so I'm guessing its gonna cost us more, probably somewhere around $1500+ since its in less demand.
I'm hoping to keep my Celica NA so titanium valves would be great especially since they seem to be the weak link according to some manufacturers.

C2gas, who are you trying to get to make the valves?


No way we want to let the price that high. If we can do it it will be less. We are targeting the price ~800$. I dont want to outsource the job ,but do it in our production (c2power.com). I have allready ordered the material for it, and will do a set for sure. So we can see if we can do it right, and see the price of it when done.


titanium is a very stubborn material to work with. good luck


Yeah thats why I say if we can do it. But at least we try cos it seems interesting.
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I copied this link posted on this site from several months back. Ti valve retainers for the 1zz: $449.99

http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/sgpratireset.html

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qbanprepster21 Nov 4, 7:56am - #315188 
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good find, if i decide to completely rebuild my engine, id go with these titanium valves,and prob those retainers too, c2gas, if you do make them, i wouldnt spend more then 1000!!! But i would like to see them between 600-800, but i doubt that!!

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shonen Nov 4, 8:44pm - #315189 
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I mean $1500 for valves+springs+retainers, not just valves. And since those retainers are already $500, the $1500 seems more realistic for the whole set, but if you can make them all for $800 that would be awesome, I would definitely get a set.
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Immo Nov 9, 10:17am - #315190 

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I'd be in on it for about 700 euros with the retainers, but Iam not sure it's possible.
I am not saying they would be too expensive because a lot of work will go into it, but that's what I would take as a budget for me personally
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they would make a tiny bit of power if they were significantly lighter then stock which I dont see why they wouldnt be.

even MWR's were 3 grams lighter then stock each and those arent titanium.

I would say $800 would be a good price. godd luck getting that accomplished. thumbsup

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I have the MWR valves and valve springs, and they give you real piece of mind if you beat the helll out of your engine sometimes
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