i had one on my 01 jeep wrangler (parnets made me get rid of it for safer 04 celica when broguth it up to college, great swich in my opinion.) I was thinking of getting it for my 04 bumper, it woudl be very unique. Prob best way to install is to take off the bumper, really not that hard, so you can se wah tur doing. I also think the only way to intall the upper is to take off the bumper. Goodluck, want to see it when its done.