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oOoLINoOo Oct 19, 4:50am - #303535 
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My friend just bought a 96 Prelude, he said he could beat me so bad...I know that car is fast, but I don't think I would lose that bad, anyone knows how much horse power that car has?
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GOLDCELICA Oct 19, 5:02am - #303536 

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Those cars are sick my cousin has a 92 Prelude with a H22 pushing way over 200+

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Zero Oct 19, 5:09am - #303537 

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you'll get owned. i think USDM h22's push 190hp stock. if you had a GTS you'd stand a chance. wave

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blackcel Oct 19, 5:12am - #303538 

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Is it an auto or manual. I drove a manual (h23) and it didnt seem that fast. My celica (gt) would be it.

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amtemp Oct 19, 5:30am - #303539 

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Looked for the specs at www.honda.com but couldnt find any, even from owners link.
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GOLDCELICA Oct 19, 5:37am - #303540 

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Originally Posted by blackcel

Is it an auto or manual. I drove a manual (h23) and it didnt seem that fast. My celica (gt) would be it.


Auto H23 Si motor stock with high mileage you'd probably have a chance. thumbsup

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superderk Oct 19, 12:44pm - #303541 

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there have been a lot of threads about prelude vs. celica. ive owned both. the prelude owns celica gt. however...a celica gts would stand a chance. IMO i think the gts would lose but most here think it would beat it out.

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ragingpaseo Oct 19, 6:24pm - #303542 
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what model is that lude? they range from 135hp, 160hp, and 190hp for that gen...
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Clos Oct 19, 6:35pm - #303543 
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135-hp, 2.2-liter I-4
160-hp, 2.3-liter I-4
190-hp, 2.2-liter I-4

i can say you could probably beat the 135 hp one and the 160 if he has a lot of miles, but the 190 no way. good luck race him and find out who is the winner
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UnlimitationZ Oct 19, 11:39pm - #303544 

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The 2.2 one thats pushing out 190 is the 7th generation right? If you talking about that then I think a GTS could beat it, they say the 7th gen is way too heavy for its engine.
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oOoLINoOo Oct 19, 11:47pm - #303545 
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But I check Honda's website...it says that car has 200hp...
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Blue_Bomber Oct 20, 12:19am - #303546 
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Originally Posted by oOoLINoOo
But I check Honda's website...it says that car has 200hp...
That's the final generation (I think it's 4th). The previous generation (3rd?) had less power, but I believe it was lighter, so it's much faster. So basically 3rd gen > GTS > 4th gen. smile Both gens are very nice looking cars, and I wouldn't mind having one as a beater. grin
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ExNihilo Oct 20, 12:28am - #303547 
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cool

I don't think '96 is quite the final generation, but I might be wrong. I don't think '96 had VTEC yet, and I think the final stock VTEC engine had 200 HP. Very nice car; probably about the equal of a GTS speedwise. Funny, it was the discontinuation of the Prelude (which I wanted back then, but didn't get) that led me to being so sensitive about the Celica being discontinued (hence I just went and got a Celica when I heard THEY were being discontinued).

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sbocaj55 Oct 20, 12:30am - #303548 

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the H22A VTEC motor is in the 97-up ludes which has 195hp i believe...the JDM version is 200hp. the generation before that...92-96 years had the 135hp version, the 160 2.3l Si engine, and the 2.2L VTEC engine with 195hp. I'd say it's a pretty good matchup...but i think you would lose because both cars are pretty light, and the ludes just have more displacement than you.
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RookieGTS Oct 20, 12:31am - #303549 

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ehh i smoked a newer prelude... I won by land lift in each shift and i beat him.
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ExNihilo Oct 20, 12:35am - #303550 
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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
ehh i smoked a newer prelude... I won by land lift in each shift and i beat him.


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amtemp Oct 20, 12:48am - #303551 

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Type: Aluminum-AlloyIn-Line 4
Displacement (cc): 2157
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net MT/AT): 195 @ 7000//NA
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
Compression Ratio: 10.0: 1
Valve Train: 16-Valve DOHC VTEC
Fuel System: Multi-Point Programmed Fuel Injection
Ignition System: Electronic

Type: Front-Wheel Drive
Manual Transmission: 5-Speed
Automatic Transmission: 4-Speed Sequential SportShift (available): NA
Final Drive Ratio (MT/AT): 4.27/NA

Wheelbase (in.): 101.8
Length (in.): 178.0
Height (in.): 51.8
Width (in.): 69.0
Track (in., front/rear): 60.0/59.6
Curb Weight (lbs., MT/AT): 3042/NA

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Type: Aluminum-AlloyIn-Line 4
Displacement (cc/cu in): 2157/132
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net MT/AT): 200 @ 7000/NA
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
Compression Ratio: 10.0: 1
Valve Train: DOHC 16-Valve VTEC-
Fuel System: Multi-Point Fuel Injection
Ignition System: Electronic w/Immobilizer

Type: Front-Wheel Drive
Manual Transmission: 5-Speed
Automatic Transmission: 4-Speed Sequential SportShift- (available)
Final Drive Ratio (MT/AT): 4.27/NA

Wheelbase (in.): 101.8
Length (in.): 178.0
Height (in.): 51.8
Width (in.): 69.0
Track (in., front/rear): 60.0/59.6
Curb Weight (lbs., MT/AT): 3042/NA
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BlkCelicaGT07 Oct 20, 12:54am - #303552 

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i realy dont think they are that fast, i beat a prelude before with my gt, won by at least 10-15ft. thumbsup
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amtemp Oct 20, 1:23am - #303553 

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Its 200 HP and 156 torque VTECH with only 3k curb weight. I think it might be a challenge for the GTS.
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RookieGTS Oct 20, 2:47am - #303554 

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Originally Posted by amtemp
Its 200 HP and 156 torque VTECH with only 3k curb weight. I think it might be a challenge for the GTS.


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hephaestus Oct 20, 3:05am - #303555 
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Preludes are fast and can handle. I always liked them. Too bad they're gone like our Celicas. Isn't that basically a Prelude engine in the S2000?
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2003cbgts Oct 20, 5:52am - #303556 

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if i could own a honda, it would be one of the last preludes, but i think celica wins in every category otherwise. celica thumbsup
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AznKhaos Oct 20, 6:54am - #303557 
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preludes are bad cars for hondas...acually its a lot better then the civics..looks and perfomacne wise..celi are still the best thumbsup

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e_degala Oct 20, 7:05am - #303558 

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the vtec preludes are faster than the celica gts. they have more horsepower and a lot more torque.

two of my friends have them, one 2001 the other 1999. i've beaten i/h/e integra gsr's with my stock gts but the prelude easily beat the type r's which is a whole level above the gsr.

at a dragstrip i raced the 1999 vtec prelude. he just pulled past me in second, eventhough i had the jump on him in first. my car is stock currently, he has pulleys, v2 Intake, header, exhaust, shortshifter...

i've rode and drove the prelude, i think the vtec is stronger than the vvtl-i in the last generation prelude.

but hell, i think the prelude is ugly. nothing shows like the celica...

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RookieGTS Oct 20, 7:22am - #303559 

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^^^^ ehh rolleyes
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superderk Oct 20, 7:29am - #303560 

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first hand experience...a 97 - 01 prelude with i/h/e will own a gts with i/h/e. unless the prelude driver cant drive for shit.

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Haulin_A_Doo Oct 20, 10:51am - #303561 
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Preludes are heavy, a GTS should take one. thumbsup
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GTQuentin Oct 20, 11:46pm - #303562 

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i messed w/my friends lude. its like a 94 vtec stick and stock. got him off the line but after like 25mph he past me. i also had 4 passengers to his 0. but hes a sucky driver tongue
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DaBigTickett Oct 21, 2:31am - #303563 

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Originally Posted by e_degala
the vtec preludes are faster than the celica gts. they have more horsepower and a lot more torque.

two of my friends have them, one 2001 the other 1999. i've beaten i/h/e integra gsr's with my stock gts but the prelude easily beat the type r's which is a whole level above the gsr.

at a dragstrip i raced the 1999 vtec prelude. he just pulled past me in second, eventhough i had the jump on him in first. my car is stock currently, he has pulleys, v2 Intake, header, exhaust, shortshifter...

i've rode and drove the prelude, i think the vtec is stronger than the vvtl-i in the last generation prelude.

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e_degala Oct 21, 3:01am - #303564 

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are you kidding? go drive a prelude with vtec.

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GOLDCELICA Oct 21, 5:36am - #303565 

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Lets be serious lets see if we can get a Prelude guy to answer some technical questions? happywink

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Zero Oct 21, 5:43am - #303566 

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my friend RayShawn owns a 99 Lude that has about 227hp.

i'll see if he can shed some light.

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GOLDCELICA Oct 21, 5:45am - #303567 

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sweeet! i'm very curious thumbsup

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ExNihilo Oct 21, 3:16pm - #303568 
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I think if the GTS is well driven and lands lift properly, it would be a close thing. VTEC 'Ludes are definitely something to respect.

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DaBigTickett Oct 21, 4:11pm - #303569 

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Originally Posted by e_degala
are you kidding? go drive a prelude with vtec.

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after my car its what ive driven the most buddy. my friend has one. JediMindTrix on here. thumbsup thumbsup
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ChiNeyBwoy Oct 21, 5:33pm - #303570 

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prelude si will own u, they have lots of torque and there pretty light, but the gts can def take a prelude si, not so sure about the vtec
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