Hence, my reply that Tein got a bad rap. Jic also. I'm still skeptical about the SSP's. I have coated mine with a protectorant. I know about Teins as you know Blue Bomber. I lost my site , but I still have the picts of many things. The HA's were a damn good coilover. Not meant for day to day driving in snow, salt, and sand. But who knew. My Hothckis camber links look worse than my old HA coilovers. I'm lucky they are still adjustable. I coated them also and will again for the snow and such. What's the story there?