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i saw that this was for sale and i wanna know if anyone has done this and what the effects are and if it still has good drivability and turbo compatibility?

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this is off topic, but why do you put @ before and after your threads?


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Originally Posted by celicadragon
i saw that this was for sale and i wanna know if anyone has done this and what the effects are and if it still has good drivability and turbo compatibility?
so back to the topic..i want to know about this too. Anyone?

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What the hell is it? Something to bore your cylinders out to 2.0 liters?

If so, then I doubt they sell a DIY kit.


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Originally Posted by combatc87
this is off topic, but why do you put @ before and after your threads?

i guess it attracts people reading the forums..

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boring the cylinder walls which would add compression and adding a turbo wouldt mix..thats like running a 125 shot of nitro and running 22 psi..even in a forged bottom end, ive seen an engine throw a rod.


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i DIDN'T think you could do the 2.0 because of the tight space in the celica ... I think its like .82 or something like that.

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It's called stroker kit.

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The cylinder walls on the GTS engine cannot be bored out any further I believe.


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u can chaneg the displacement by changing the stroke of the rod, thats why they call it the stroker kit and give you a new crank thumbsup

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Originally Posted by slidr
The cylinder walls on the GTS engine cannot be bored out any further I believe.
they can a little. But the walls would be so thin i guess you could always sleeve it.

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damn some interesting info!

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where lucky or illusive when you need them. Those guys know alot

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or isaac he would know too

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i belive this system just drops in but when i do this i would ge better springs and rods-but you guys dont think with this kit the turbo would work well?


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^^^ This kit is not states becuase you need like 113 octane.

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^^^ This kit is not states becuase you need like 113 octane.
so either go buy some racing gas, or go to the airport smile

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why would getting a little more air require that high octane gas, there are a lot more liter per cylinder cars out there that run on 87--that just dont make sense to me that 2.0 needs better gas


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Originally Posted by celicadragon
why would getting a little more air require that high octane gas, there are a lot more liter per cylinder cars out there that run on 87--that just dont make sense to me that 2.0 needs better gas
A car requires high octane gas not because of the displacement, but because of it has high compression ratio or it has forced induction (turbo/supercharger) or NOS. This is because these engines tend to detonate easier. I don't know how much this stroker kit change your compression. It depends on piston design and stroke. But as a rule of thumb, the lower the compression ratio, the easier it is to increase the boost. Note that octane number in Japan is not the same as octane number in the U.S. This is because they use RON and we use (R+M)/2

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wow i dont post here for a few days and look at all the confusion.

okay brashboy/trial/mwr they all make a "stroker kit"

"stroker kit"
increases displacement of the engine.

they advertize it at 2.0 litres but actually the're all at 1.93 up from the gt's 1.79 (advertized at 1.8 litres)

the design of the stroker kit for the 2zz is very simple. they use a gt engine crank which has a 92mm stroke vs the gts stroke of 85 or 86 cant remember which.

Increasing the stroke = increased displacement.

the pistons usually can be ordered in different compressions.

I'd stick with stock compression if you want to keep it as a daily driver 11.5:1.

For a race engine i'd bump it up to 13.0:1 and have the engine resleved.

The use of the stroker kit requires an aftermarket ecu. namley the apexi power fc. The stock gts ecu isn't tuned for the longer stroke and if you tried to run it you may end up smacking a valve into the piston.


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Originally Posted by celicadragon
i belive this system just drops in but when i do this i would ge better springs and rods-but you guys dont think with this kit the turbo would work well?

probably not..increasing the stroke already increases the compression because the piston is moving farther up and down. I'm sure you could run a turbo kit...but you would probably have to keep it at a real low psi and thus it wouldn't be worth it to spend $xxx on a stroker kit and 5-6k on a turbo kit (tuned). Thats my opinion

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see i just thought that having 2.0 like the eclipse turbo would get me better power


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i dont know a lot obout this kit

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ive been askin for beedback on this product for months, no one has it yet, in the us that is. thumbsdown

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i would like to know too


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the stroker kit would be the easiet way to add more low-end torque to the GTS...the GT has a longer engine stroke than the GTS and that's why it has better low-end...and you seriously don't want to bore the GTS engine...the cylinder walls would be wayyy to thin

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well i will let you guys know how it runs im going with the 3zz stroker and the sf turbo i should have the stroker with in a week or so. i was told it would work with lower comp pistons or even double gasketing it

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did anyone not read my post i spent so much time posting? confused


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^^^ You brought back a one month old post jsut to say "cool"? wtf


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Not sure but I dont think this a stroker kit. I know that the MVR 2.0 liter conversion kit is all bore and no stroke. And also take into account that the head will need to be taken to a machine shop for atleast $1,000 in machine work. The block will need to be machined for the new rings, and then the block will be frozen and the rings will be heated up so that the new rings will bond to the block.


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Originally Posted by FastCelicaGT22
Not sure but I dont think this a stroker kit. I know that the MVR 2.0 liter conversion kit is all bore and no stroke. And also take into account that the head will need to be taken to a machine shop for atleast $1,000 in machine work. The block will need to be machined for the new rings, and then the block will be frozen and the rings will be heated up so that the new rings will bond to the block.

the 1zz stroker kit can be bored out to the diameter of the 2zz cylinders which are wider

the 2zz stroker uses the 1zz crank which has a longer stroke but the bore can not be changed.


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^^^^ yup...either one lands you at 2.0 Liters..only way to get more would be to stroke the 1zz even more , but that would require custom rods, pistons, crank and oil pan

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this sounds like a waste of money and seems like it would be risky to use since it probably wouldnt be worth it for an everyday driver


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