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celicadragon Oct 12, 7:57pm - #298318 

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@brashboy 1.8 to 2.0 conversion@

i saw that this was for sale and i wanna know if anyone has done this and what the effects are and if it still has good drivability and turbo compatibility?
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combatc87 Oct 12, 8:39pm - #298319 

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this is off topic, but why do you put @ before and after your threads?

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Brian63 Oct 12, 8:52pm - #298321 

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Its his trademark... confused
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celicadragon Oct 12, 9:01pm - #298322 

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exactly!

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pfcnguyen Oct 12, 10:00pm - #298323 

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Originally Posted by celicadragon
i saw that this was for sale and i wanna know if anyone has done this and what the effects are and if it still has good drivability and turbo compatibility?

so back to the topic..i want to know about this too. Anyone?
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slidr Oct 12, 10:33pm - #298324 

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What the hell is it? Something to bore your cylinders out to 2.0 liters?

If so, then I doubt they sell a DIY kit.

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Virgilson Oct 12, 10:47pm - #298325 

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Originally Posted by combatc87
this is off topic, but why do you put @ before and after your threads?


i guess it attracts people reading the forums..
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slick406 Oct 12, 11:52pm - #298326 

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boring the cylinder walls which would add compression and adding a turbo wouldt mix..thats like running a 125 shot of nitro and running 22 psi..even in a forged bottom end, ive seen an engine throw a rod.

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Larry_GTS Oct 12, 11:54pm - #298327 
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i DIDN'T think you could do the 2.0 because of the tight space in the celica ... I think its like .82 or something like that.
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GT4 Oct 12, 11:58pm - #298328 

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It's called stroker kit.

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slidr Oct 13, 2:44am - #298329 

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The cylinder walls on the GTS engine cannot be bored out any further I believe.

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ikin Oct 13, 2:47am - #298330 
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u can chaneg the displacement by changing the stroke of the rod, thats why they call it the stroker kit and give you a new crank thumbsup

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Originally Posted by slidr
The cylinder walls on the GTS engine cannot be bored out any further I believe.
they can a little. But the walls would be so thin i guess you could always sleeve it.
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damn some interesting info!
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RaptorGTS Oct 13, 2:52am - #298333 
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where lucky or illusive when you need them. Those guys know alot
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RaptorGTS Oct 13, 2:53am - #298334 
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or isaac he would know too
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celicadragon Oct 13, 12:25pm - #298335 

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i belive this system just drops in but when i do this i would ge better springs and rods-but you guys dont think with this kit the turbo would work well?

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^^^ This kit is not states becuase you need like 113 octane.
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Tameanaka Oct 13, 3:32pm - #298337 

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Originally Posted by Jamey
^^^ This kit is not states becuase you need like 113 octane.
so either go buy some racing gas, or go to the airport smile

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celicadragon Oct 13, 5:26pm - #298338 

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why would getting a little more air require that high octane gas, there are a lot more liter per cylinder cars out there that run on 87--that just dont make sense to me that 2.0 needs better gas

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GT4 Oct 13, 6:49pm - #298339 

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Originally Posted by celicadragon

why would getting a little more air require that high octane gas, there are a lot more liter per cylinder cars out there that run on 87--that just dont make sense to me that 2.0 needs better gas

A car requires high octane gas not because of the displacement, but because of it has high compression ratio or it has forced induction (turbo/supercharger) or NOS. This is because these engines tend to detonate easier. I don't know how much this stroker kit change your compression. It depends on piston design and stroke. But as a rule of thumb, the lower the compression ratio, the easier it is to increase the boost. Note that octane number in Japan is not the same as octane number in the U.S. This is because they use RON and we use (R+M)/2

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Illusive Oct 13, 7:38pm - #298340 
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wow i dont post here for a few days and look at all the confusion.

okay brashboy/trial/mwr they all make a "stroker kit"

"stroker kit"
increases displacement of the engine.

they advertize it at 2.0 litres but actually the're all at 1.93 up from the gt's 1.79 (advertized at 1.8 litres)

the design of the stroker kit for the 2zz is very simple. they use a gt engine crank which has a 92mm stroke vs the gts stroke of 85 or 86 cant remember which.

Increasing the stroke = increased displacement.

the pistons usually can be ordered in different compressions.

I'd stick with stock compression if you want to keep it as a daily driver 11.5:1.

For a race engine i'd bump it up to 13.0:1 and have the engine resleved.

The use of the stroker kit requires an aftermarket ecu. namley the apexi power fc. The stock gts ecu isn't tuned for the longer stroke and if you tried to run it you may end up smacking a valve into the piston.

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sbocaj55 Oct 13, 10:49pm - #298341 

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Originally Posted by celicadragon
i belive this system just drops in but when i do this i would ge better springs and rods-but you guys dont think with this kit the turbo would work well?


probably not..increasing the stroke already increases the compression because the piston is moving farther up and down. I'm sure you could run a turbo kit...but you would probably have to keep it at a real low psi and thus it wouldn't be worth it to spend $xxx on a stroker kit and 5-6k on a turbo kit (tuned). Thats my opinion
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celicadragon Oct 14, 12:43pm - #298342 

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see i just thought that having 2.0 like the eclipse turbo would get me better power

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celicadragon Oct 14, 12:51pm - #298343 

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i dont know a lot obout this kit

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Clos Oct 14, 12:54pm - #298344 
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ive been askin for beedback on this product for months, no one has it yet, in the us that is. thumbsdown
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celicadragon Oct 14, 6:32pm - #298345 

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i would like to know too

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AZZKIKR Oct 14, 6:44pm - #298346 

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the stroker kit would be the easiet way to add more low-end torque to the GTS...the GT has a longer engine stroke than the GTS and that's why it has better low-end...and you seriously don't want to bore the GTS engine...the cylinder walls would be wayyy to thin
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ted18852103 Oct 14, 7:20pm - #298347 
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well i will let you guys know how it runs im going with the 3zz stroker and the sf turbo i should have the stroker with in a week or so. i was told it would work with lower comp pistons or even double gasketing it
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Illusive Oct 14, 8:05pm - #298348 
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did anyone not read my post i spent so much time posting? confused

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celicadragon Oct 15, 2:09pm - #298349 

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??????????????????

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celicadragon Nov 16, 12:37am - #298350 

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FastCelicaGT22 Nov 16, 1:46am - #298352 

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Not sure but I dont think this a stroker kit. I know that the MVR 2.0 liter conversion kit is all bore and no stroke. And also take into account that the head will need to be taken to a machine shop for atleast $1,000 in machine work. The block will need to be machined for the new rings, and then the block will be frozen and the rings will be heated up so that the new rings will bond to the block.

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Illusive Nov 16, 4:26pm - #298353 
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Originally Posted by FastCelicaGT22
Not sure but I dont think this a stroker kit. I know that the MVR 2.0 liter conversion kit is all bore and no stroke. And also take into account that the head will need to be taken to a machine shop for atleast $1,000 in machine work. The block will need to be machined for the new rings, and then the block will be frozen and the rings will be heated up so that the new rings will bond to the block.


the 1zz stroker kit can be bored out to the diameter of the 2zz cylinders which are wider

the 2zz stroker uses the 1zz crank which has a longer stroke but the bore can not be changed.

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AZZKIKR Nov 16, 4:51pm - #298354 

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^^^^ yup...either one lands you at 2.0 Liters..only way to get more would be to stroke the 1zz even more , but that would require custom rods, pistons, crank and oil pan
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celicadragon Nov 16, 5:43pm - #298355 

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this sounds like a waste of money and seems like it would be risky to use since it probably wouldnt be worth it for an everyday driver

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celicadragon Nov 18, 6:24pm - #298357 

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ok

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