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ct
C'mon & hit me!
ct Oct 12, 4:47pm - #298224 

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another AEM CEL victim

well i called AEM and they basically told me to fuck off and go to toysport in gardena..LOL rofl

Basically i have had 4 CELs on a gen 2 AEM Intake. i have made sure that all the hoses are tight..i dunno what's going on. the ecu cooling tube that connects to the radiator fan is not all th way in but it's sung. the little hose that attaches to the engine is plugged, taped, and zip tied...lol. i dunno the code. hopefully since AEM has send it's celica guys over to toysport they can help me out.

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Sultan Oct 12, 4:51pm - #298225 

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I'm in the same boat bro - just bide your time until the TPR gen2 Intakes come out...
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nebraskaGTS Oct 12, 4:53pm - #298226 

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that is crazy that it is so different from car to car christian, i don't think it is your ecu cooling hose b/c i could never get that damn thing all the way into the radiator port either. and by the way, what is gonna be the difference between the current TPR and the gen2 anyone know?
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ct
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ct Oct 12, 5:04pm - #298227 

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well i chose AEM instaed of tpr because AEM has a CARB sticker.if TPR had a CARB sticker i would buy it in a second.i mean i get great performance from my AEM it's just that this CEL pops up every 2-3 days. i mean i can always reset the ecu by going in the fuse box but i wanna drive my car and not have to do that evry now and then. i am pretty confident that toysport can fix it. they have gotten numerous celis with the same problem...i hope they can though confused

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Pnoy Oct 12, 5:14pm - #298228 
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take a close pic of the Intake (sensors and connectors).
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beans Oct 12, 5:19pm - #298229 
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I'm lost . . .

what do you mean by cel? confused
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hombredelassrtas Oct 12, 6:10pm - #298230 

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cehck engine lights.
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slidr Oct 12, 6:44pm - #298231 

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The connector piece that goes into the radiator shroud should fit in there securely if you tap on it with a hammer, but I doubt that will fix your CEL issues.

Get the code pulled, because you don't even know if it has something to do with your Intake or not, so you can't blame it on the CAI.

It could as well be a busted O2 sensor or something else.

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ct Oct 12, 8:36pm - #298232 

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i'll see if i can get the code at auto zone tonight before i head out to toysport tomorrow.

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Easy_C Oct 12, 9:13pm - #298233 
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peel your CARB sticker off and stick it on a TPR wink

TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING!
TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
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ct Oct 12, 9:31pm - #298234 

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
peel your CARB sticker off and stick it on a TPR wink


MY GOD MAN...DON'T YOU THINK I TRIED??!!! lol!! rofl yeah that fucker is in there tighter than a chicken's ass...

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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slidr Oct 12, 10:37pm - #298235 

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Mine didn't come with a CARB sticker, but then again it may have, and I just didn't use it since I don't live in Cali.

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Virgilson Oct 12, 10:46pm - #298236 

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Originally Posted by Sultan
I'm in the same boat bro - just bide your time until the TPR gen2 intakes come out...
thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
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xXMaGNuSXx Oct 13, 1:39am - #298237 
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i get the CEL light on my K&N Typhoon CAI. frown
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RookieGTS Oct 13, 1:45am - #298238 

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damnit buy Injen! spineyes
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shoulin Oct 13, 6:08am - #298239 

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if it is installed right you will never get a CEL... ive had mine on for about 5 months now, not a single CEL
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wannaBblueCelica Oct 13, 6:23am - #298240 

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Easy_C
peel your CARB sticker off and stick it on a TPR wink


MY GOD MAN...DON'T YOU THINK I TRIED??!!! lol!! rofl yeah that fucker is in there tighter than a chicken's ass...

rofl rofl
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Elec-FuYu Oct 13, 6:26am - #298241 
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hmmm the AEM CAI acts so different from car to car...

mine is on no problem for an year and wut...4 months, and never cleaned the filter yet lol

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beans Oct 13, 1:00pm - #298242 
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my experience has been with the generation 2 that the cel came on more often before I put in the TRD exhaust, after installing the TRD exhaust, the cel came on a lot less

dunno why that is, I'm just mentioning what I noticed
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Jamey Oct 13, 1:34pm - #298243 

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Originally Posted by shoulin
if it is installed right you will never get a CEL... ive had mine on for about 5 months now, not a single CEL


Not ture at all bro. AEM has been known for CEL's. I have the first Gen and never had a cel at all, but i am lucky. It is a hit or miss with them due to everything is hand made thus room for error
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Danny7 Oct 13, 2:07pm - #298244 

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Mmmm I'm about to buy a 2nd generation AEM CAI,but reading of you now I'm undecided...

I have an Injen Short Ram but now I'm not sure it's a good idea to replace it with an AEM CAI. I don't want to have a CEL!!!

What would you do?
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ct Oct 13, 2:14pm - #298245 

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i think i figured it out. after seeing marco's install i noticed he had his blue vsv connecotr unattached. i had the black unattached. i just switched them both and we'll see if that is the problem.

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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beans Oct 13, 3:28pm - #298246 
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Originally Posted by Danny7
Mmmm I'm about to buy a 2nd generation AEM CAI,but reading of you now I'm undecided...

I have an Injen Short Ram but now I'm not sure it's a good idea to replace it with an AEM CAI. I don't want to have a CEL!!!

What would you do?



I still recommend it, best CAI out on the market.
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slidr Oct 13, 3:47pm - #298247 

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Originally Posted by Jamey
Originally Posted by shoulin
if it is installed right you will never get a CEL... ive had mine on for about 5 months now, not a single CEL


Not ture at all bro. AEM has been known for CEL's. I have the first Gen and never had a cel at all, but i am lucky. It is a hit or miss with them due to everything is hand made thus room for error
Hand made? How would a slight bend in the pipe, or perhaps an improper weld trigger a CEL?

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Danny7 Oct 13, 7:56pm - #298248 

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Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by Danny7
Mmmm I'm about to buy a 2nd generation AEM CAI,but reading of you now I'm undecided...

I have an Injen Short Ram but now I'm not sure it's a good idea to replace it with an AEM CAI. I don't want to have a CEL!!!

What would you do?



I still recommend it, best cai out on the market.


Thanx bro
I'll buy it...then if I have a CEL it'll be your fault rofl rofl rofl

Bye
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shonen Oct 18, 5:43pm - #298249 
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Does the cel effect the car's performance in any way?
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Blue_Bomber Oct 18, 8:27pm - #298250 
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Originally Posted by Danny7
I still recommend it, best cai out on the market.

Next to TPR, anyway. wink TPR = 0 CELs, 0 bogging. thumbsup

Originally Posted by slidr
Hand made? How would a slight bend in the pipe, or perhaps an improper weld trigger a CEL?

The MAFS mounts were 100% hand welded, and more often than not, they weren't welded at a perfectly parallel angle to the piping. This caused the MAFS to be at the wrong angle, , making air bypass it instead of flowing up through it. This caused CELs a lot more than they would've occurred with a machine aligning the mount.

Originally Posted by shonen
Does the cel effect the car's performance in any way?

Yes. The car goes into safe mode, and sets the AF ratios to rich, since the CEL is caused by the engine running lean. It's a safety measure so the engine's internals don't overheat (lean = hot, rich = cool), and it results in reduced power output.
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defyenz Oct 18, 8:42pm - #298251 

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Originally Posted by Jamey
Originally Posted by shoulin
if it is installed right you will never get a CEL... ive had mine on for about 5 months now, not a single CEL


Not ture at all bro. AEM has been known for CEL's. I have the first Gen and never had a cel at all, but i am lucky. It is a hit or miss with them due to everything is hand made thus room for error


i have the first gen too and haven't had a cel ::knocks on wood:: its been a little over six months grin

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JSPITZ Oct 18, 8:47pm - #298252 

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hey blue I never had a CEL but you said my car might be running lean from my AEM CAI I havent noticed a lose of power. it will take off but like i said there is a little stall in acceloration, about 2 seconds. and my ecu hose is gone fell out months ago thumbsup

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Blue_Bomber Oct 18, 8:53pm - #298253 
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Originally Posted by JSPITZ
hey blue I never had a CEL but you said my car might be running lean from my AEM CAI I havent noticed a lose of power. it will take off but like i said there is a little stall in acceloration, about 2 seconds.

Yup, that little stall in acceleration is your car running too lean (but not lean enough to damage the engine). It isn't present on a properly tuned Intake.
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hombredelassrtas Oct 18, 9:23pm - #298254 

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what exactly is running lean? I am sure ther eis a thread aobut this but for some reason it wont let me search.

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Blue_Bomber Oct 18, 9:44pm - #298255 
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Running lean = the engine isn't getting enough fuel to match the incoming air. With Intakes, it's caused by a bad design, which causes the air to flow around the MAFS, giving it improper readings. MAFS readings are how the ECU knows how much air is going into the engine, and how it decides how much fuel will need to added to match it. All Intakes out there are designed the same when it comes to the MAFS environment except one: TPR. TPR uses the same kind of setup as the stock airbox. There are fins sitting right before the MAFS that help direct air through it instead of around it. This maintains proper MAFS readings, which keeps the engine from running lean and bogging and causing CELs.
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