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Oct 11, 1:14pm - #297653 
@air ride suspension@

i live in pa and permanantly lowering would be a deathwish for my car so i definately need air ride-has anyone done this and what are pros and cons? also can they be made to go above factory height?

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Oct 11, 1:16pm - #297654 
pros: they can ride and lower the car at any time.
cons: when air bags rip and they will rip its a pain in a half and costly to repair.

i had a few friends with air bagged rides and it was cool and everything but when it breaks damn its a pain in the ass to get it to work again.


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Oct 11, 1:26pm - #297655 
so basicly you get what you pay for and i should get a good system


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Oct 11, 1:30pm - #297656 
get cans, better wear and tear. but air ride is tricky. compressors, valves, tanks, etc... my friend brandon and i put a bag setup on his 62 buick special. and that thing dumps out and drags, if i ever got air on my celi, it'd be cans, with a front back setup just to pancake at shows. but it all depends on what direction you want to take your car.

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Oct 11, 2:04pm - #297657 
i want a lower center of gravity for better handling and i wanna raise up if i am going down a hill


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Oct 11, 3:47pm - #297658 
I've heard air ride kills your handling, not sure about that though.


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Oct 11, 6:45pm - #297659 
air rides aren't good for handling, because even though they lower your center, they aren't stiff enough to provide response time and such.

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Oct 11, 7:08pm - #297660 
Air ride will not help you turn better. Get good quality coilovers (Tein or Tanabe) and then set them for a height that won't cause problems, but is still low enough for your tastes.

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Oct 11, 8:14pm - #297661 
yea, get coilovers. Air ride is for trucks and more for show cars. The ride is terrible.


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Oct 12, 7:28am - #297662 
I have air for my celi right now in the box waiting on the air lines.And also my buddy has air on his celi right now.If you are going to buy air now is the time becuase its not show season and they are trying to get rid of their stock.You will get awesome deals.I got a 3600 dollar kit for 1900 with metal fittings and a chrome tank upgrade.you can pm me if you have any questions on air ride.plus i am going to be putting it on soon so i will let you know how the install goes.PM me if you want to know more about air and what to purchase.If i dont know i will ask my buddy he will definitely know.

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Oct 12, 7:54am - #297663 
thanks celica guy definately let me know i do wanna show my car but i am more worried about getting down the drag strip so hopefully being lower on the drag strip will help at least if it wont help with turns thats not that big of a deal unless its worse than stock handling-i dont think i can even use coil overs becasue i have no suspension done now and i barely clear a lot of thing if your from pa you know what i'm sayin-thanks for everyones input


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Oct 12, 2:13pm - #297664 
Where at in PA are you?


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Oct 12, 2:37pm - #297665 
i dont think air rides make you handle any better than stock, if not worse. I heard some really shitty rides with bag, but i never rode in one so i dunno.


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Oct 13, 10:27am - #297666 
i'm in pittsburgh-pot hole and hill center of the united states well maybe not the hill but definately potholes


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Oct 13, 2:35pm - #297667 
air ride can be a little bouncy at times, at least in a heavy ass car like my friend brandon's buick, i'm not sure how it would ride in a light-ass import though.

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Oct 14, 5:53am - #297668 
hopefully it would be somewhat stiff


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Oct 14, 6:15am - #297669 
Well if you think about it, there's nothing to stiffen the ride. It definately won't handle better than stock, prolly the same or worse to be honest.

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Oct 14, 1:34pm - #297670 
who cares air at a show is sweet as hell

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Oct 15, 7:00am - #297671 
true


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Oct 15, 8:23am - #297672 
That's why it all depends on the direction he wants to go with his car. However he said he's looking for some handling, in which case air is NOT the way to go.

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Oct 15, 9:41am - #297673 
yep now all this has me thinking on what to do-how good hadling do i need if i am really just focused on daily driving and doing the 1/4 mile


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Oct 15, 10:07am - #297674 
even in the 1/4 mile you are still adding a lot of weight which will equal slower times. For ANY type of performance coilovers cant be beat. They are lighter, give better cornering, stiffer, and most can even be adjusted (though not as easy as airbags).

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Oct 15, 6:06pm - #297675 
If you have the money get the electronic coilovers from tein.I checked on them and youll fork out about i think its like around 1700 for the coilovers and the motors and everything.Im sure it would be slow as all hell adjusting coilovers from the inside but that is a way to get coilover handling with the adjustibility.Just something to think about although i dont know how much it would be like air as far as adjusting.Something worth checking into though

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Oct 15, 6:56pm - #297676 
Originally Posted by celicadragon
yep now all this has me thinking on what to do-how good hadling do i need if i am really just focused on daily driving and doing the 1/4 mile

you say that you want it for the strip but having bags is going to put a hell of a lot more weight in your car do to the bags, compressor and tank. Bags are a wast of money IMO.
MORE WEIGHT = Slower times

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Oct 15, 6:58pm - #297677 
Originally Posted by celicadragon

i live in pa and permanantly lowering would be a deathwish for my car so i definately need air ride-has anyone done this and what are pros and cons? also can they be made to go above factory height?

also why cant you permanantly lower your car going an 1" to and 1" 1/2 will not be a problem and why would you want your car above factory hight the roads ar not that bad there rofl rofl

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Oct 18, 5:43am - #297678 
trust me the roads are horrible i scrape sometimes now at factory height nd those electronic coilovers sound like a good idea ive never heard of them though where can i find them?


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Oct 18, 4:55pm - #297679 
Go to tein's website and just look around..you can get coilovers that are compatible for it..It is called EDFC.But its worth a look check it out.The only reason i didnt do it was because you can buy bags for what the electronic coilovers cost

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Oct 19, 9:52am - #297680 
thanks this might be worth it for me since the bags wont help my racing cause.


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