the prob is i dont have a lot of money and they are 500 each. i was lookin at the 12w3v2. are these better than the alpine S12's?
Just about anything i've heard is better than Alpine s12s! 12w3v2s are great all around subs. You get a good amp they're loud as hell and they hit hard, even though they're only 300 watts.
Negative! I agree that JL Audio makes some of the best subs i've ever heard. I also agree that 12s are great if you listen to music with heavy bass, like rap or hip hop. But what if you listen to other music as well, like rock or pop. Double bass pedal sounds are so quick, subs just can't keep up. The rolloff is too big. It booms at the first bass hit, but doesn't have enough time to recover for the second hit, so it comes out sounding weak and indistinguishable from the first. Its great if you want that BOOM BOOM rattling sound. But for tight, defined sound, can't go wrong with 10s. Ppl mostly get 12s for volume, but trust me, buying more 10s is well worth it.