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SHI_GTS Jul 16, 1:02pm - #27915 
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Cost on ECU swap? Illusive?

Well guys, I have been told a lot and it looks like it may help.. What is the cost to do this and got the part numbers?

thanx

illusive, i saw you did this... how much?

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SHI_GTS Jul 16, 1:34pm - #27916 
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alright i called toyota... for the ecm (89666-20081) 1,100$

for the knock sensor(89615-12090) 150$

based on this info... that is half a fuckin turbo... POS upgrade for the money. Any cheaper ways?

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go to a junkyard and yank one?
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Grand-Touring-Dan Jul 16, 6:53pm - #27918 
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Are you just swapping to the 01 ecu? It may be best to go to a junkyard.
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Illusive Jul 16, 7:04pm - #27919 
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Originally Posted by SHI_GTS
Well guys, I have been told a lot and it looks like it may help.. What is the cost to do this and got the part numbers?

thanx

illusive, i saw you did this... how much?


dont buy one from the dealer...get a junkyard one, check www.car-part.com and buy the cheapest one they have usually around 150 or so for the ecu, get the knock sensor from the dealer...heres a list


2000 or 2001 ECM (89666-20081, 89666-20080, or 89666-20082)
2000 or 2001 Knock Sensor 89615-12090

if you dont have any gasket sealer buy some you dont have to replace the Intake manifold gasket

check Newcelica.org they have a great write up on how to do the swap with pics and everything done by Griffin! Its what I used.

You may want to concider buying a apexi power FC 900 instead of a toyota ecu and get it dyno tuned and have lift changed to around 5600 rpms(8400 redline). I wish I would have thought of this before I did the swap since some of the cars have been dyno tuned to a 10 hp gain.

total cost around 350-400 for 00-01 ecu and knock sensor

power fc and tuning 1000-1100, but gain about 10 hp with lower lift and higher redline. or spend about 600 more for 10 hp and if you go turbo you'll already have the power FC which will lower the overal cost.


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SHI_GTS Jul 17, 2:46am - #27920 
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nice.. i checked that site and for around 350-400 i can get the shit. What other benefits besides higher revs do i get? I know ill be able to land lift easier and shit...

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SHI_GTS Jul 17, 3:22am - #27921 
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another thing, does the 00 ecu allow you to hit lift in 6th by any chance? I hate running out of egine cause of the governor in 6th?????

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SuperCharged Jul 17, 3:37am - #27922 
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nope. i have tried many times!!! just doesn't work. frown

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Illusive Jul 17, 1:40pm - #27923 
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Originally Posted by SHI_GTS
another thing, does the 00 ecu allow you to hit lift in 6th by any chance? I hate running out of egine cause of the governor in 6th?????


weird??? with my 02 ecu I could shift fast enough from 5th to 6th and land in lift, however right at 6K rpms there is only about 120-130 whp, its around 6500 rpms where you get close to the 170 wph mark, so shifting from 5th to 6th needs to land at around 6500 rpms if you want to continue moving forward, otherwise there isn't enough torque/hp to move the car forward and your speed starts to drop. Its not because of a govenor, there isn't one on the celica as far as I know.

I haven't done a top speed run with the new limiter, but I can take 5th to close to 145 with the new rev limit, and before it was around 130 ish with the 02 ecu.


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Illusive Jul 17, 1:43pm - #27924 
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Originally Posted by SHI_GTS
nice.. i checked that site and for around 350-400 i can get the shit. What other benefits besides higher revs do i get? I know ill be able to land lift easier and shit...


as far as any other benefits there are none, landing in lift is the key to a fast time.

only other thing I can think of is being able to wind out all the gears farther, 2nd gear you can now go to 60-61 mph
3rd 88-89 mph, 4th 109-110 mph- 5th 145-146 mph.

as for me it dropped about 2 tenths off my 1/8 mile times and added around 1-1.5 mph in my trap with only difference being my ecu swap.

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SHI_GTS Jul 17, 4:04pm - #27925 
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The ECU on celcias does limit you from lift in 6th. Top speed is 140-138... That is a huge problem in our cars. I was just hoping that the 00 would not have that handi-cap. It isnt lack of power to hit lift in 6. cause i have had huge down hill drags and cant hit it..just stays right at 6,100...

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Illusive Jul 17, 6:49pm - #27926 
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Originally Posted by SHI_GTS
The ECU on celcias does limit you from lift in 6th. Top speed is 140-138... That is a huge problem in our cars. I was just hoping that the 00 would not have that handi-cap. It isnt lack of power to hit lift in 6. cause i have had huge down hill drags and cant hit it..just stays right at 6,100...


weird?

I've done like 3 top speed runs with my celica before the 00 ecu swap, and shifting at 7800 in 5th to land at 6200 in 6th I could still hear lift on. although my rpms would begin to drop due to not enough power at 6200 rpms to overcome the force of drag at 140 mph.

all the magazines I've read said nothing about a govenor.

where did you get your info that the celica has a govenor? mine never did, it just didn't have enough power to carry it up the rpms in 6th.

if your really worried about it then get the power FC from trial (instead of the toyota ecu)that definately wont have any type of govenor.

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Steven Jul 17, 8:17pm - #27927 
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SHI - it might be your rims? Did you try it with your stock rims?
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SHI_GTS Jul 17, 8:57pm - #27928 
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I have tried many times and even when i had factory wheels on it wouldnt. My car gets up to redline fifth with no problem, then wont bang lift in 6th. Just sits at 6200 rpms no lift...i should putmy car on blocks and try it. safe;ly of course... i have had plenty of freewat ahead of me and i cant hit lift in 6th.. not shifting problems or a week motor... ecu or gov. prob.

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