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hope i don't get banned for this... #277520 Sep 17, 9:45am Sep 17, 9:45am
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hope i don't get banned for this...
alright, don't get mad guys but i'm a honda believer now. my best friend just dropped a type-r engine into his civic hatchback and that thing can fly! it feels awesome when the vtec kicks in. i tried keeping up with him in my gt but he just kept pulling away, it was really frown. now i really want to start working on a Turbo system so i can smoke him.

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Noel] #277521 Sep 17, 9:46am Sep 17, 9:46am
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that's great, good luck though

You'll need a lot of it if he has a b16 or b18.

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Noel] #277522 Sep 17, 9:47am Sep 17, 9:47am
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why would you get banned for saying that?

no one here can argue that honda/acura has a much better aftermarket compared with toyota. honda's have much more combinations for engine swaps--it's really a great thing thumbsup

now go get a Turbo happywink

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #277523 Sep 17, 10:00am Sep 17, 10:00am
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yeah i was just joking about the ban thing, it just that some people here really hate hondas, the sad thing is that his exhaust from his old engine is restricting this engine, its holding back about 20 or so horsepower, damn.

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Noel] #277524 Sep 17, 10:11am Sep 17, 10:11am
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Originally Posted by Noel
it just that some people here really hate hondas


this really puzzles me. hondas are great cars...it was actually the acura nsx that brought vtec to our shores. some peope are just spineyes


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: ct] #277525 Sep 17, 10:13am Sep 17, 10:13am
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yeah i guess it's just those few honda owners that talk shit about all other cars that give honda owners a bad name, personally i'm blown away by the potential of honda engines


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Noel] #277526 Sep 17, 10:19am Sep 17, 10:19am
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Have you ever driven a luxury vehicle such as what Lexus or BMW have to offer? or a vehicle with HP that starts in atleast the 300's from the production floor... What about a REAL sports car... grin

Sorry to say - Acura is nice, but the Honda vehicles that people do swaps with, scream "ECONOMY" - no matter how much $$$ they dump into them wave

Maybe its just me getting sick of the whole industry - or its just me getting sick of all the ricers in Los Angeles who think that buying an out-dated Honda (beater) and skidding around town makes them the fastest thing on four tires thumbsdown


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: isaac] #277527 Sep 17, 10:30am Sep 17, 10:30am
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whoever owns a toyota and talks shit about honda means they dont know much. and visa versa, whoever owns honda talks shit about toyota doesnt know shit about cars.
they are both great cars, and its known that honda makes some sick engines.

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: stefanoc] #277528 Sep 17, 10:42am Sep 17, 10:42am
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I own both... what does that make me, a hypocrite rofl

The 2001 Honda EX is not anything special to brag about - this is see why you it pictured in the garage and never discussed rofl


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: isaac] #277529 Sep 17, 10:47am Sep 17, 10:47am
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^^ honda ex. i assume thats an accord. you cant compare the celica with the accord. compare the accord to the camry, celica with the rsx. it comes to personal choice and interest. but once in a while honda makes some awesome engines, like the s2000, k20. the coolest engine toyota has now is probably the vvtli, and they havent made anything newer and better performing than the vvtli, cz i guess they dont need it anymore. at least if toyota is letting go the celica and the mr2, they should put a nice engine in the tC.

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: stefanoc] #277530 Sep 17, 10:56am Sep 17, 10:56am
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of course a type r motor in a civic hatchback is going to be really fast 195 hp in a car that weighs nothing do the math heh very good swap thumbsup


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: stefanoc] #277531 Sep 17, 10:58am Sep 17, 10:58am
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I believe he has a civic but I'm not 100% sure.
It does have a nice engine. It may not be a 2zz-ge or 3s-gte but it gets the job done for what it is. Scion wanted to keep costs down so young people could afford it and not for it to be some bang up high powered car.

Originally Posted by stefanoc
^^ honda ex. i assume thats an accord. you cant compare the celica with the accord. compare the accord to the camry, celica with the rsx. it comes to personal choice and interest. but once in a while honda makes some awesome engines, like the s2000, k20. the coolest engine toyota has now is probably the vvtli, and they havent made anything newer and better performing than the vvtli, cz i guess they dont need it anymore. at least if toyota is letting go the celica and the mr2, they should put a nice engine in the tC.

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Steven] #277532 Sep 17, 11:00am Sep 17, 11:00am
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^^ok. if they put a camry engine in the scion for the price to stay low then cool. then they should have a sports version of it with a better engine. well, thats where the supercharger comes duh!

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: stefanoc] #277533 Sep 17, 11:01am Sep 17, 11:01am
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Scion is depending on aftermarket companies to provide the extra Performance enthusiasts want. I think that plan is brilliant

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: isaac] #277534 Sep 17, 11:01am Sep 17, 11:01am
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Originally Posted by isaac
Have you ever driven a luxury vehicle such as what Lexus or BMW have to offer? or a vehicle with HP that starts in atleast the 300's from the production floor... What about a REAL sports car... grin

Sorry to say - Acura is nice, but the Honda vehicles that people do swaps with, scream "ECONOMY" - no matter how much $$$ they dump into them wave

Maybe its just me getting sick of the whole industry - or its just me getting sick of all the ricers in Los Angeles who think that buying an out-dated Honda (beater) and skidding around town makes them the fastest thing on four tires thumbsdown



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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: isaac] #277535 Sep 17, 11:02am Sep 17, 11:02am
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Originally Posted by isaac
I own both... what does that make me, a hypocrite rofl

The 2001 Honda EX is not anything special to brag about - this is see why you it pictured in the garage and never discussed rofl


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: stefanoc] #277536 Sep 17, 11:02am Sep 17, 11:02am
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127hp 2001 Honda CIVIC EX Sedan... Not an Accord

there is a difference rolleyes

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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: isaac] #277537 Sep 17, 11:25am Sep 17, 11:25am
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damn i thought the celica was more expensive than the civic

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: stefanoc] #277538 Sep 17, 12:05pm Sep 17, 12:05pm
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^^^yah, theyre about the same price... but thats just the GT, compare it to the GTS and you'll have it at around the price of an RSX-S spineyes


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Zero] #277539 Sep 17, 12:13pm Sep 17, 12:13pm
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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: aznsaiyan509] #277540 Sep 17, 1:16pm Sep 17, 1:16pm
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yeah he has a 99 civic hatchback he's gonna be getting a header, exhaust and maybe an Intake manifold so yeah he's going to be flying. so how come the 1.8L type-r is pushing out 200hp with an 11.0 compression and the 2zzge is only putting out 180 with an 11.5 compression?


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Noel] #277541 Sep 17, 1:43pm Sep 17, 1:43pm
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cause honda sucks nuts... na they make some pretty reliable cars its just ricers have made a very bad image for most hondas. ill be screamin toyota till the wheels fall off thumbsup

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Noel] #277542 Sep 17, 2:04pm Sep 17, 2:04pm
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It could be a number of things. Compression isn't the only factor that makes power.

Originally Posted by Noel
yeah he has a 99 civic hatchback he's gonna be getting a header, exhaust and maybe an Intake manifold so yeah he's going to be flying. so how come the 1.8L type-r is pushing out 200hp with an 11.0 compression and the 2zzge is only putting out 180 with an 11.5 compression?

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I know a guy who has a B16B 5spd that he dumped into his honda. Its a fast little car.

+ Honda H/B $1150
- Sold old 1.5L motor/tranny -$250
+ B16B & tranny $850
= Total $1,750

Dam cheap & it would give a GTS a go from one stop light to another. Honda is cheap, reliable & fast if you do the right swap. He's planning on dumping an H22 in it next, that's just crazy! eek

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Originally Posted by Noel
yeah he has a 99 civic hatchback he's gonna be getting a header, exhaust and maybe an Intake manifold so yeah he's going to be flying. so how come the 1.8L type-r is pushing out 200hp with an 11.0 compression and the 2zzge is only putting out 180 with an 11.5 compression?
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BTW, those are old Honda specs. They aren't SAE corrected. The RXS-S was the first honda motor to obtain a real 100HP per liter. So a 1.8 s/b about 170HP at the flywheel, about 150HP to the ground.

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got to say, honda is nice. my next car would probably be a TL or evo, not a toyota again...

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Steven] #277546 Sep 17, 5:11pm Sep 17, 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by Steven
Scion is depending on aftermarket companies to provide the extra Performance enthusiasts want. I think that plan is brilliant


Its working too. It was a really good move on their part imho

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: falkkor] #277547 Sep 17, 6:33pm Sep 17, 6:33pm
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No offense man but you have a GT.. that against a Type-R motor is just like a GTS against a GT. The Type-R is a great thing but it's very over rated.. I had one, and I stand by my trading it in for a GTS.. well except for the trade-in value loss.


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Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Vampyre] #277548 Sep 18, 1:31am Sep 18, 1:31am
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I think he just asked about the power difference between the 2zz-ge and the b18c5 not implying that his friend's civic hatchback had a b18c5. A b18c5 powered hatch is relatively rare, you'd most likey see them with si, gsr, or LS/LS vtec motors...

Re: hope i don't get banned for this... [Re: Steven] #277549 Sep 18, 2:18pm Sep 18, 2:18pm
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fast i dont care. i will never buy a honda/acura for myself or for my kids. just wont happen. i have a life time grudge.

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I love toyota and honda just the same. The b16/18 and h22 engines are awesome. And so are their safety features. This was at 100mph.

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Steven, so what could be some of the reasons that the b18 has more power than the 2zz?


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