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Sep 12, 8:11pm - #273440 
Torque

What could I do to my manual 04 Celica GTS to boost up the torque a lot?

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Sep 12, 8:20pm - #273441 
Turbo, Nitrous, supercharger.


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Sep 12, 8:22pm - #273442 
I was thinking about Turboing it but wouldent that only boost horsepower?

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Sep 12, 8:22pm - #273443 
a lot? Foce Induction.
change pistons, head block, polish.
Apexi Power FC to fine tune the torque out put.

basically, no cheap way.


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Sep 12, 8:23pm - #273444 
Originally Posted by KickScrew
I was thinking about Turboing it but wouldent that only boost horsepower?


turbo and supercharger will boost your engine Performance on both horse power AND torque.


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Sep 12, 8:34pm - #273445 
Theres no cheap way to make the celica a supercar.


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Sep 12, 8:57pm - #273446 
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup

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Sep 12, 9:20pm - #273447 
Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


Last time I checked, 200whp and 130wtq wasn't supercar status.

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Sep 12, 9:54pm - #273448 
Originally Posted by KickScrew
I was thinking about Turboing it but wouldent that only boost horsepower?


Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup

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Sep 12, 10:46pm - #273449 
Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


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Sep 13, 5:36am - #273450 
Originally Posted by Sancho

Originally Posted by GT2111

^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo

Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


Its a mathematical equasion. All else equal, if you increase horsepower, the torque increases. I posted the formula before.

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Sep 13, 1:39pm - #273452 
Originally Posted by lhowing884
but then you have to take account of the variations throughout the RPM band...so thats not always true


The variations in HP correspond to the variations in torque. Take any dyno with HP & Torque on it. Take a random point of HP & you can calculate the torque. It should match up no matter what RPM you pick. thumbsup

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Sep 13, 3:45pm - #273453 
trial header has not proven to be any better then DC sports header. which is sad cause you could buy 3 dc headers for the price of 1 trial header.

I agree that there is no cheap way.

You could stroke the motor and go ITB's, header, power fc, exhaust and get good N/A hp and tq. will take a lil work to make it streetable but hey it will get the job done lol

Intake and power fc I put down 183 whp and 135 wtq Not bad for a gts wink

GT is NOT better then then GTS in ANY category. even boosted. thumbsup

If you 're not looking for huge hp numbers go with a S/C and get great torque where ever you want. if you want to get the most power you can, go Turbo.


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Sep 13, 4:34pm - #273454 
^^ true

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Sep 13, 4:38pm - #273455 
Originally Posted by Sancho
Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

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Sep 13, 4:40pm - #273456 
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Sancho
Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

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Yeah, and a GT will perform better also. rolleyes


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Sep 13, 4:50pm - #273457 
Originally Posted by slidr

Originally Posted by silver

Originally Posted by Sancho

Originally Posted by GT2111

^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo

Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

poke crazy
Yeah, and a GT will perform better also. rolleyes


You completely missed the point.

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Sep 13, 4:51pm - #273458 
you get torque with a Turbo as well...but it only hits when the Turbo spools up to speed. For example my 97 eclipse gsx had 214ftlbs of torque at 3000 rpm. When i floored it...i just had the start off of say a gs (non Turbo)...but at 3000 rpm you hear the whoosh and all of a sudden you are planted against the rear of your seat. It also boosts horsepower.

Supercharger gives you torque right from the get-go because it doesn't have the lag time to wait for exhaust pressure to build up. However newer Turbo's are lighter and with less friction, so Turbo-lag is reduced somewhat...however generally the bigger Turbo the more lag...the more horsepower...but less driveability...

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Sep 13, 4:52pm - #273459 
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Sancho
[quote=GT2111]^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

poke crazy
Yeah, and a GT will perform better also. rolleyes


You completely missed to point. [/quote]No I didn't. I saw that too. rolleyes


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Sep 13, 4:54pm - #273460 
Oh and to put it in perspective...the GS eclipse has 140 hp and less torque (not sure of the figure and don't want to look it up) and the GSX had 210hp and 214ftlbs of torque...same 2.0liter engine (except Turbo with lower compression pistons)...so Turbo's definitely give you more than just horsepower...

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Sep 17, 6:36pm - #273461 
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Sep 17, 7:38pm - #273462 
lol wheel hp at the flywheel???
well, they say that a replacement for displacemnt is revs

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