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Torque #273440 Sep 12, 8:11pm Sep 12, 8:11pm
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What could I do to my manual 04 Celica GTS to boost up the torque a lot?

Re: Torque [Re: KickScrew] #273441 Sep 12, 8:20pm Sep 12, 8:20pm
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Turbo, Nitrous, supercharger.


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Re: Torque [Re: GTSbyTRD] #273442 Sep 12, 8:22pm Sep 12, 8:22pm
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I was thinking about Turboing it but wouldent that only boost horsepower?

Re: Torque [Re: GTSbyTRD] #273443 Sep 12, 8:22pm Sep 12, 8:22pm
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a lot? Foce Induction.
change pistons, head block, polish.
Apexi Power FC to fine tune the torque out put.

basically, no cheap way.


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Re: Torque [Re: KickScrew] #273444 Sep 12, 8:23pm Sep 12, 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by KickScrew
I was thinking about Turboing it but wouldent that only boost horsepower?


turbo and supercharger will boost your engine Performance on both horse power AND torque.


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Re: Torque [Re: Elec-FuYu] #273445 Sep 12, 8:34pm Sep 12, 8:34pm
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Theres no cheap way to make the celica a supercar.


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Re: Torque [Re: GTSbyTRD] #273446 Sep 12, 8:57pm Sep 12, 8:57pm
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^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup

Re: Torque [Re: GT2111] #273447 Sep 12, 9:20pm Sep 12, 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


Last time I checked, 200whp and 130wtq wasn't supercar status.

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Re: Torque [Re: KickScrew] #273448 Sep 12, 9:54pm Sep 12, 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by KickScrew
I was thinking about Turboing it but wouldent that only boost horsepower?


Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup

Re: Torque [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #273449 Sep 12, 10:46pm Sep 12, 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


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Re: Torque [Re: Sancho] #273450 Sep 13, 5:36am Sep 13, 5:36am
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Originally Posted by Sancho

Originally Posted by GT2111

^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo

Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


Its a mathematical equasion. All else equal, if you increase horsepower, the torque increases. I posted the formula before.

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f0_1870177814_81_collapsed_4_365_1.html#1870177814

Re: Torque [Re: ] #273452 Sep 13, 1:39pm Sep 13, 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by lhowing884
but then you have to take account of the variations throughout the RPM band...so thats not always true


The variations in HP correspond to the variations in torque. Take any dyno with HP & Torque on it. Take a random point of HP & you can calculate the torque. It should match up no matter what RPM you pick. thumbsup

Re: Torque [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #273453 Sep 13, 3:45pm Sep 13, 3:45pm
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trial header has not proven to be any better then DC sports header. which is sad cause you could buy 3 dc headers for the price of 1 trial header.

I agree that there is no cheap way.

You could stroke the motor and go ITB's, header, power fc, exhaust and get good N/A hp and tq. will take a lil work to make it streetable but hey it will get the job done lol

Intake and power fc I put down 183 whp and 135 wtq Not bad for a gts wink

GT is NOT better then then GTS in ANY category. even boosted. thumbsup

If you 're not looking for huge hp numbers go with a S/C and get great torque where ever you want. if you want to get the most power you can, go Turbo.


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Re: Torque [Re: Lucky_317] #273454 Sep 13, 4:34pm Sep 13, 4:34pm
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^^ true

Re: Torque [Re: Sancho] #273455 Sep 13, 4:38pm Sep 13, 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Sancho
Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

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Re: Torque [Re: silver] #273456 Sep 13, 4:40pm Sep 13, 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Sancho
Originally Posted by GT2111
^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

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Yeah, and a GT will perform better also. rolleyes


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Re: Torque [Re: slidr] #273457 Sep 13, 4:50pm Sep 13, 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by slidr

Originally Posted by silver

Originally Posted by Sancho

Originally Posted by GT2111

^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo

Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

poke crazy
Yeah, and a GT will perform better also. rolleyes


You completely missed the point.

Re: Torque [Re: slidr] #273458 Sep 13, 4:51pm Sep 13, 4:51pm
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you get torque with a Turbo as well...but it only hits when the Turbo spools up to speed. For example my 97 eclipse gsx had 214ftlbs of torque at 3000 rpm. When i floored it...i just had the start off of say a gs (non Turbo)...but at 3000 rpm you hear the whoosh and all of a sudden you are planted against the rear of your seat. It also boosts horsepower.

Supercharger gives you torque right from the get-go because it doesn't have the lag time to wait for exhaust pressure to build up. However newer Turbo's are lighter and with less friction, so Turbo-lag is reduced somewhat...however generally the bigger Turbo the more lag...the more horsepower...but less driveability...

Re: Torque [Re: silver] #273459 Sep 13, 4:52pm Sep 13, 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Sancho
[quote=GT2111]^^^ Lies!
The GTS is more capiable of it than the GT! Easy way to boost the GTS is Apexi FC and TPR CAI, TPR Exhaust, And DC Headers.. I've heard 200whp.

Basicly.. if your looking for tourque in a celica.. you've bought the wrong car... Celica's don't have cams aviable for them yet so therefore don't really have any HUGE boost jumps with a N/A setup


If you're gonna Turbo, a GT will perform Far better than a GTS. Make that TRIAL headers, better Performance than DC Sport. Thats 200whp to the flywheel.

Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Horse Power & Torque are mathematically locked together. When you increase horsepower, your torque increases. thumbsup


Not always. But most of the time anyway.


200 wheel horsepower to the flywheel, eh?

poke crazy
Yeah, and a GT will perform better also. rolleyes


You completely missed to point. [/quote]No I didn't. I saw that too. rolleyes


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Re: Torque [Re: sbocaj55] #273460 Sep 13, 4:54pm Sep 13, 4:54pm
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Oh and to put it in perspective...the GS eclipse has 140 hp and less torque (not sure of the figure and don't want to look it up) and the GSX had 210hp and 214ftlbs of torque...same 2.0liter engine (except Turbo with lower compression pistons)...so Turbo's definitely give you more than just horsepower...

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lol wheel hp at the flywheel???
well, they say that a replacement for displacemnt is revs

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