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isaac Jul 14, 10:09am - #27301 
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Successful Speeding

Successful Speeding

1. Select Proper equipment
  • Avoid bright red performance cars
  • Non-descript mouse-gray "family" cars pass by unnoticed
  • Choose sports sedans such as Taurus SHO, Infinity Q45, etc.
  • A GOOD Radar Detector

2. Recognize the threat early
  • Avoid excessive speeding on sparsely traveled highways. There will be no radar cover for you. This applies to both day and night driving.
  • Pay attention to Radar alerts, especially X-band "blips" on a rural highway. This may turn out to be K-band bouncing of a car in front of you.
  • Learn to recognize "threat" vehicles, such as Mustang LX's, full-size Chevrolets, -Dodge Diplomats, Plymouth Gran Fury's, etc.
  • Identifying "threat" vehicles: windshield pillar mounted spotlight, stabilizer bar underside car ( especially on Chevrolets ), wide perfor- mance tires.
  • Rules apply whenever vehicle approaches from front or rear - slow down for positive identification!

3. Maintain good daytime scan
  • Golden Rule #1 restated: Innocuous cars may pass unnoticed.
  • Slow down when approaching underpasses - enforcer may be on far side behind the concrete.
  • Be suspicious of vehicles parked on the inside or outside shoulder until a positive I.D. is made.
  • Check On-ramps: give a quick look to the top of the on-ramp.
  • Slow down whenever you notice a vehicle behind you matching your speed for a positive identification. The vehicle matching your speed will not be getting smaller in your rear-view mirror.

4. Maintain a good night scan
  • Moving up on an enforcer vehicle: learn to identify taillights. Good example is the Mustang LX. Immediately look for the folded in spotlight.
  • Prime rule for nighttime driving: drive fast enough so that all head- lights of passed motorists reduce rapidly in size. Any air of headlamps that maintains the same distance will need to be identified.

5. Practice Stealth, deception, and "hiding"
  • Find a "hare" who is pleased to demonstrate that his car is better than yours. Drop back to a safe distance and enjoy the radar shield. Do maintain your rear scan though.
  • Run at times with lights, then at times without, hiding yourself in front of a group of trucks when you change illumination. The reason for this is that an enforcer, having "noticed" you from a long distance back, will be looking for a certain as-yet-unidentified vehicle with lights ( or without ) as he moves quickly up through traffic. Suddenly, he is in identifiable range of a vehicle similar in size and shape to the one he believes may have been violating, only now the illumination is different from what he saw before, thus rendering him unsure. Follow- ing rules #2 and #3, you will have slowed down to quasi-legal speed. This will confuse the officer, especially if you have removed your radar detector from the windshield or visor.
  • Placement and removal of the radar detector is crucial. The unit should be directly in front of you so that a following threat vehicle cannot see it.
  • If you believe you have been actively "noticed", hide in front of a large truck, accelerate while under cover, and exit any off-ramp or rest area. You will have nothing to lose at this juncture.
  • Any time an officer moves in on you, remove the detector at once and place it in the seat next to you.
  • If you are in imminent danger of being stopped, execute the following emergency procedure in sequence: (1) remove detector and jam under seat; (2) wipe off suction cup or other tell-talke marks with moistened index fingertip, and (3) Replace the cigarette lighter ! An empty cigarette lighter is a dead giveaway to the officer that he is dealing with a chronic offender. He will treat you accordingly.

6. Beware of slow moving "clumps"
  • Clumps are largish groups of vehicles covering all lanes and maintain a near-legal speed.
  • Most "loose" clumps will contain one enforcer vehicle at the front ( usually a marked cruiser, and one in the middle or at the tail of the clump. The vehicle at the rear will usually be unmarked and looking for lane changing and in-and-out weaving. Knowledge of rule #2 will make him a dead giveaway.
  • Beware of curves, crests, and grassy medians. Instant-on may be placed so that the violator can be "shot" just as he crests the hill, before he has a chance to react. Slow down - its safer.

7. Avoid unprofessional and provocative behavior
  • The smart motorist does not alienate others
    Slow to a moderate speed when passing other motorists. One of the benign-looking minivans you just ran off the road may contain an off- duty officer with a notebook and a phone.
  • Avoid provocative license plates and bumper stickers: "How's my driving ? Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT" will not give you any breaks when stopped by an officer.

8. Maintain a high level of attention at all times
  • Raid motoring is a serious business. Stay focused. Distractions are all incompatible with rules #1-9.

9. Behave correctly when stopped
  • Chronic fast driving will get you stopped sooner or later. Observance of rules #1-9 will make this much, much later, but not "never".
  • Do not act blase'. A cocky stance of "OK, so you got me" is provocative. SO is attempting to argue that there must be some terrible mistake - you know you were under the limit.
  • Do not forget to remove your detector and follow the other steps mentioned in rule #5.
  • Be courteous, candid and contrite. Trembling while handing over your license demonstrates that this situation is unusual and terrifying to you. It shows respect for the law and fear of punishment.
  • Answer the question "Do you know how fast you were going ?" with "Truly, I don't - my mind must've been wandering". "But I must have been going over the speed limit, or you wouldn't have stopped me." Note that you were not speeding deliberately - no "late for work" excuses !
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punterjoe21 Jul 18, 8:54pm - #27302 
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from experience: just because an officer is on the side of the road with his lights on doesnt mean that he has somebody pulled over. sometimes they do that just to make you think he is busy or already has another person. lesson learned.

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01celi Jul 20, 2:55am - #27303 
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be wary of a stopped officer on the LEFT side of a highway or interstate. most only look to the right. aslo be especially careful when crossing into a new state! officers like to hide around these borders. lesson learned thumbsdown

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GOLDCELICA Jul 20, 4:16am - #27304 

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From my experience never be the lead car when speeding try to stay somewhere in the middle never front or behind on the highway. Never look into an officers face they like looking intimidating so just ignore them and be. Don't follow a cop even if he's going 80+ mph what so ever hehe.

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Rice Jul 29, 1:32am - #27305 

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Update to possible patrol cars (tell-tale features remain the same)- Chevy Camaro and Ford Crown Vic. Memorize these particular silhouttes! Other domestic cars may, of course, be used as well. I've personally noticed unmarked Dodge Intrepids and Chevy Monte Carlos pulling people over.

One thing I do not concur with: hasty removal of radar detector and clean-up. There's a chance the officer saw it on your windshield when he clocked you. Plus if he's right behind you with lights flashing, there's a good chance he sees you taking it down and hastily cleaning the windshield of suction cup spots. I say don't bother. You got caught with your pants down and your fancy electronics didn't save you. Take the hit. Worst case is that the officer catches a glimpse of you hiding something and he suspects you may be trafficking something you shouldn't.
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MxReb0 Aug 6, 5:14am - #27306 

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I think it's good practice to use the hand brake to slow down so your break lights don't come on. Cops don't see you breaking, but you seem to slow down. This confuses them, and you don't look like you're correcting something you were doing wrong. Don't do this with people behind you, they can rear end you. This is good for highway and city driving.
Also, if a cop turns around, or follows you and is a way back, try turning off your lights (if you can) and turn in a dark road to hide. Take some back roads. This is also good to loose psycho murderers that might be chasing you.

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DiabloGTS Aug 6, 1:32pm - #27307 

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At night time ALWAYS DRIVE WITH YOUR FOGS ON.

One time, a cop tagged me, I changed lanes, got in front of him, flipped off the fogs, merged into traffic, he flew by and didn't even take a second look, he just turned around.

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xXMaGNuSXx Dec 23, 8:52pm - #27308 
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Originally Posted by MxReb0
I think it's good practice to use the hand brake to slow down so your break lights don't come on. Cops don't see you breaking, but you seem to slow down. This confuses them, and you don't look like you're correcting something you were doing wrong. Don't do this with people behind you, they can rear end you. This is good for highway and city driving.
Also, if a cop turns around, or follows you and is a way back, try turning off your lights (if you can) and turn in a dark road to hide. Take some back roads. This is also good to loose psycho murderers that might be chasing you.


I disagree, most new cars will turn on your brake lights even if you use the hand brake. They engaged the rear-brakes, so they would still turn on.
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XxMerlinxX Dec 27, 12:34am - #27309 
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Celicas, however, do not engage the brake light when the handbrake is in use. This is a good point (personal exp. here).

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TweakedCelica Feb 9, 6:59am - #27310 
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Ha! Who speeds? not me!? LOL.. riiiiiiiiiiiight.

Anyway, something else to watch for while driving to avoid tickets is roads with barriers in the middle, the steel ones especially, not so much the cement ones. cops like to sit on the opposite side where there is a break in the barrier and clock cars going the opposite way.. then cross through the barrier to chase the offender. I know from experience it sucks! thumbsdown
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Rexy13 Mar 9, 8:50am - #27311 
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they have been using hopped up impalas around here, just to let people aware of
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Rick Mar 28, 4:16am - #27312 

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Why do yall say to hide the radar detector? Is it not good to have if a cop sees it or something? Yes he may suspect that you are going to speed since you have one, but is there another reason?
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isaac Mar 28, 4:28am - #27313 
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the officer will come to the conclusion that since you have a radar detector, that you like to speed... more often than not. and that also blows the excuse, "sorry officer, i didn't know I was speeding" grin

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celestial5gen Dec 28, 8:48pm - #27314 
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that was an awesome summation of all my experiences with local smokies and staties. your rules for speeding are impeccable.
In New Jersey
We have Crown Victorias (mostly)
Chevroloet Capris,
Chevrolet Impalas,
and the Occasional Dodge Stratus/Intrepid.
I have never seen a Chevrolet Camaro in use by any NJ police, but I know they gottem.
but yea, great article
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SilverWolf Jan 22, 5:46am - #27315 
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While on the type of cop car subject, i would like to point out that the police use about anything. just because it isnt an american car, or it doesnt have POLICE written on the side doesnt mean it isnt the police. for example: i saw a maxima with flashing lights in the headlights and on the dash that was covering a crash scene. but they can pull you over, nonetheless. If you see someone like that behind you with flashing lights that doesnt look like a cop car, be careful cause you never know if its just some psycho who got a new flashing toy or really a cop. just pull over to a populated place, such as a gas station. If on the highway out in the middle of nowhere, just put on your caution lights, try to follow the speed limit, and stay right in front of the cop. when a safe area is seen, signal well before that you are turning, and there you go! you either get a ticket or brutally raped by some crazy axe murderer! no im just playin. safe driving! wave
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KennyD Feb 5, 3:07am - #27316 
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Not to gross anyone out but my sister speeds with no fear of cops because she doesn't mind being pulled over. Why? Well that's because she has the ultimate excuse...

"I'm in a hurry to get home, it's my time outta the month and I don't bleed all over my seats"

Male cops get scared, female cops sympathize.

Wouldn't recommend any dudes using that line... just follow the guide, but women will most likely get away with speeding if they use this line.
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Grifter Apr 6, 3:37am - #27317 
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talkin about cop cars... yeah, Im here in CT. and i;ve seen quite a few Camaros i kno for a fact the State Trooper have 3. a Purple one (sighted mainly in I-84), a Tan one (again I-84),and lastly i have seen a Red SS (sighted both in I84 and I91). but, yea, mainly they have crown vics, impalas, a couple SUVs (explorer, Navigators). Some counties have tried to crackdwn on street racing. i've seen kids get pulled over by a turboed civic, supercharged 80's mustang 5.0, and i have even seen an STI. but the later cars i have only seen in races, not so much as actual police cruisers. but yeah watch out next time you pull up to someone at a stop light, make sure they're not a cop. jsut a fari warnin. i dont want ya'll to get ur Celi's impounded.
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SleekAh Apr 7, 1:46am - #27318 

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Quote:
-Pay attention to Radar alerts, especially X-band "blips" on a rural highway. This may turn out to be K-band bouncing of a car in front of you.


what does that mean?


When my sister and I were driving home from new york, my ipod kept picking up weird blipping sounds, is that what that is?
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CelicaBoy27540 Apr 9, 3:55am - #27319 
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Im here in NC. We have Dodge Durangos, Crown Vics, Expeditions, Jeep Cherokees, Camaros, Impalas, and even PT Cruisers. puke So i guess they r experimenting with all types of cars. Also they will not pull you over if you are doing less than or equal to 8mph over the limit. i got pulled for doin 9mph over cry and that was that lowest they can pull you over, i heard from the district attorney.
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