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Sep 8, 7:28pm - #270234 
GTS & GT DIFFERENCES

Hey, I'm from Sydney, Australia. Here we have two versions of the celica both with VVTL-i engines, with no mechanical differences, only cosmetic. What are the engine differences between the GT and GTS? spineyes

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Sep 8, 7:44pm - #270235 
GT 140HP VVT-i
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Sep 9, 12:52am - #270237 
Thanks dude spineyes

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Sep 9, 5:22am - #270238 
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Sep 9, 2:13pm - #270239 
that's only U.S. Spec though...

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Sep 9, 3:03pm - #270240 
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.

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Sep 9, 3:37pm - #270241 
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Sep 9, 3:41pm - #270242 
Originally Posted by xprohx
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
They actually put down low 160's.

The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.


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Sep 9, 3:52pm - #270243 
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by xprohx
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
They actually put down low 160's.

The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.


some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... grin


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Sep 9, 4:02pm - #270244 
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by xprohx
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
They actually put down low 160's.

The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.


some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... grin
Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno.


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Sep 9, 4:19pm - #270245 
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by xprohx
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
They actually put down low 160's.

The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.


some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... grin
Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno.


oh...yeah 210 to the crank with mods is doable then.


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Sep 9, 6:04pm - #270246 
Originally Posted by ct
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[quote=xprohx]So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
They actually put down low 160's.

The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.


some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... grin
Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno.


oh...yeah 210 to the crank with mods is doable then. [/quote]No mod (not including forced induction and internals) produces more horsepower at the crank, but rather frees it up. So with bolt-ons like exhaust and CAI, you are not producing more power at the crank, but rather allowing the engine to use more of its maximum power by letting it breathe/operate easier.


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Sep 10, 7:26am - #270247 
Originally Posted by slidr
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Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by ct
[quote=slidr][quote=xprohx]So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
They actually put down low 160's.

The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.


some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... grin
Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno.


oh...yeah 210 to the crank with mods is doable then. [/quote]No mod (not including forced induction and internals) produces more horsepower at the crank, but rather frees it up. So with bolt-ons like exhaust and CAI, you are not producing more power at the crank, but rather allowing the engine to use more of its maximum power by letting it breathe/operate easier. [/quote]

an exhaust and a CAI is a modification. our cars don't come stock with them. and yeah, i know what they do. rofl


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Sep 10, 12:14pm - #270248 
So can anyone point me to some dyno graphs? If it really does put down 165 to the wheels in stock form, that would be 195 to the flywheel, like an itr would.

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Sep 10, 12:21pm - #270249 
it's generally 155-165 whp. of course all cars are diffrent and all dyno conditions are diffrent as well. if you want to look at dynos new celica has a few of them


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Sep 10, 12:31pm - #270250 
Originally Posted by ct
it's generally 155-165 whp. of course all cars are diffrent and all dyno conditions are diffrent as well. if you want to look at dynos new celica has a few of them


Yep, they do all read differently. And how did lucky get 184 to the wheels?

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Sep 10, 12:55pm - #270251 
i think he got 184 from an AEM Intake, unbolted exhaust with a powerfc...pm him to make sure his screen name is lucky317


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Sep 10, 1:05pm - #270252 
He must be lucky? grin

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