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Aug 28, 7:55pm - #261862 
short ram vs cai

what better a CAI or Short Ram. im talking for drag racing.

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Aug 28, 11:10pm - #261863 
CAI will almost always be better, just for the simple fact that you dont get as much heat soak.


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Aug 28, 11:25pm - #261864 
CAI is definately better spineyes


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Aug 29, 12:14am - #261866 
CAI!! thumbsup

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Aug 29, 12:18am - #261867 
Originally Posted by Erick

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Aug 29, 12:19am - #261868 
an Intake is an Intake not a real big deal...but yea CAI is definatly better, specially around night time.
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Aug 29, 1:18am - #261869 
^^y is it better in nitetime?

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Aug 29, 1:22am - #261870 
Originally Posted by ghostingcelica
^^y is it better in nitetime?


because thats when the ghost comes out and haunt your car. That makes it better...

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Aug 29, 1:29am - #261871 
but i am the ghost tongue

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Aug 29, 3:52pm - #261872 
Any advantages with Short Ram over CAI?


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Aug 29, 4:26pm - #261873 
you can get hydrolock

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Aug 29, 11:46pm - #261874 
Originally Posted by ghostingcelica
^^y is it better in nitetime?
b/c air is more dense at night


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Aug 30, 12:38am - #261875 
Yeah and as for the SRI its sitting up around the motor area and the motor gets hot and your SRI will suck in hot air into your engine, and then the CAI sits down by the wheel well and basically cooler air is sucked in by the Air Filter.

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Aug 30, 8:35am - #261876 
any one allready noticed that one of the big fan is pushing hot air directly on a Short Ram?! this sucks ... frown

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Aug 31, 5:12pm - #261877 
who makes a good SRI for more low power and any ideas on where it can be found? [/color]


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Aug 31, 8:16pm - #261878 
Injen makes a Short Ram. The only benefit I know over a CAI is that it's a lot easier to install. You don't have to worry about hydro lock either I guess, but I'm in Vegas so not real worried about rain. You don't really get much of a hp boost with SRI because, like they have said, you're basically sucking up the same air as your stock Intake does, it's just less restrictive, so you get a little more air. How it works is that the colder the air is, the denser it is, and dense air equals more hp. That's why you get more hp at night, it's cooler outside. The truth about both though, is that by themselves they really won't give you any noticeable gains. I mean, you will get around 5hp with a CAI, maybe more with some CAI's, but you won't be able to feel it. Very few add ons in and of themselves will give you a noticeable difference. Now once you add up a CAI, exhaust, new chip and a few other of the easier to do mods it will. (Actually, I don't know if the chip counts as an easy to do mod.) So if you are looking to drag race (on a legal venue I am sure) then come up with a gradual upgrade plan. Map out the different things you want to get, make sure they are compatible then do them in stages as money permits. With a plan you don't have so much worry about buying stuff that later mods aren't compatible with. It really sucks to spend money on stuff that you end up not using. Anyway, my point that I got away from was that don't expect either the SRI or CAI to give you a noticable power increase.

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Aug 31, 9:24pm - #261879 
will i guess i'll be conforming to the Injen. you can always go with a SRI and bring the air to it, it's a pain in the ass with the small amount of space in our engine bay so you can't use a pipe bigger then a 2" diameter and then snake it from the front left corner up along side the left head light and it'll come out on top of the SRI. you chould use a drier hose that's what one of my friends did with thier A4, but i'd say go with PVC pipe [/color]


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Sep 1, 1:21am - #261880 
Go with a heat shield they are proven to make a big difference for SRI Intake temp, that with your 2 inch pipe from the fender idea would be a great setup.

For a CAI heat shield down in the wheel well where not having the Injen logo is not a big deal, then this is a good way to go.

$17.99 RTEC(R) Polished Heat Shield Fits on all Air Filters with 2.5" - 4.5" Inlets

http://www.2kracing.com/product_info.php/cPath/23/products_id/3494

But for a SRI where presentation is important to most, then $51.00 is a good price for Injen heat shield

http://www.cardomain.com/item/INJHS5000P

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Sep 1, 1:26am - #261881 
Check out the Rod Millen SRI as well:

http://www.rodmillenstore.com/celica/intake.htm

The air Intake was 45 degrees cooler than the heat shield at idle, and at highway speeds there may even be a greater difference

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Sep 1, 11:36am - #261883 
Originally Posted by lhowing884
AEM CAI

ya i don't know about the whole CAI idea, i know this one guy with the same car as me and his went from a gts to a get for 4 months, and the dealer guys couldn't get it done until toyota sent thier own people to fix it, so i don't think so [/color]


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Sep 1, 11:37am - #261884 
Originally Posted by GTS2003BLK
Go with a heat shield they are proven to make a big difference for SRI Intake temp, that with your 2 inch pipe from the fender idea would be a great setup.

For a CAI heat shield down in the wheel well where not having the Injen logo is not a big deal, then this is a good way to go.

$17.99 RTEC(R) Polished Heat Shield Fits on all Air Filters with 2.5" - 4.5" Inlets

http://www.2kracing.com/product_info.php/cPath/23/products_id/3494

But for a SRI where presentation is important to most, then $51.00 is a good price for Injen heat shield

http://www.cardomain.com/item/INJHS5000P


ya i don't like the heat shield of the filter but the other one is looking promising though [/color]


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Sep 1, 11:55am - #261885 
When you say "the other one" do you mean the Rod Millen SRI?

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Sep 1, 3:12pm - #261886 
for drags go with CAI

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Sep 9, 11:35am - #261887 
ya my bad the Rod Millen SRI and it was suppose to all so say heat shield or filter. [/color]


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Sep 9, 11:51am - #261888 
TPR makes a CAI thats convertable to SRI very easily


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Sep 9, 5:35pm - #261889 
thanx you guys..imma get a AEM Intake

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Sep 9, 7:21pm - #261890 
Good choice. What a difference here on the CAI vs. SR. Before it was Short Ram because of hydrolock on a CAI and the HP gains are the same theory. I'm glad that crap ended. CAI is the only way to go for an inatake whether AEM, Injen, or TPR period - amongst periods.

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Sep 9, 10:34pm - #261891 
For Drag Racing.. you would want to get a CAI.. the Short Ram have a few avantages over the CAI.. for Example cleaning the Air Filter, and thats about it.. LOL... CAI is better than Short Rams..

But for a Drag Race, I would have to go with Injen... Why??? because Injen gives you a boost at High RPMs, because everytime you change gears, you are always left in high RPMs.. rofl

AEM is better when it comes in cornering, you get the boost at low RPMs, so your acceleration is pretty good.. rofl

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Sep 10, 8:23am - #261892 
Originally Posted by Chico
For Drag Racing.. you would want to get a CAI.. the Short Ram have a few avantages over the CAI.. for Example cleaning the Air Filter, and thats about it.. LOL... CAI is better than Short Rams..

But for a Drag Race, I would have to go with Injen... Why??? because Injen gives you a boost at High RPMs, because everytime you change gears, you are always left in high RPMs.. rofl

AEM is better when it comes in cornering, you get the boost at low RPMs, so your acceleration is pretty good.. rofl


why not just have both from one Intake. An Intake that gives you AEM low end and Injen high end? Its fairly simple


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