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Aug 26, 6:42am - #260093 
Reason why VVTL-i might NOT WORK?

Can somebody PLEASE GIVE me any reasons why the VVTL-i might not work????

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Aug 26, 6:46am - #260094 
broken lift bolts maybe

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Aug 26, 8:43am - #260095 
yeah what he said ^^^^ or the car is too cold...

make sure the engine is warm up...


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Aug 26, 8:49am - #260096 
or you have a GT... rofl

but seriously. how is it NOT working? is it that you don't feel it kick hard like it used to? if that is the case then there are several reasons why that is. some are

-it could be that you are just used to it (i am guilty of that)

-the car is cold

-you've added mods that smoothed out the power band

please be more specific. is the case where no lift engagement is happening or there is less lift "feel" to it?


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Aug 26, 8:51am - #260097 
^^ I agree. need a lil more info.


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Aug 26, 8:55am - #260098 
MORE INFO!! MORE INFO!!

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Aug 26, 9:07am - #260099 
I want INFO, you want INFO, everyone wants INFO!! spineyes

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Aug 26, 9:24am - #260100 
Check your oil levels. VVTL-I is activated with oil pressure. if you dont have enough oil/pressure wont engage.

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Aug 26, 9:34am - #260101 
The engine is warm..its got oil.. I AM 100% possitive its a GTS.. and i had the car not for 2 long.. and i can't feel sh%*t.. the engine its bounces out of the rev limiter at 7000RPM.. no lift.. no nothing.. whatta fu**k? this is my first Toyota and first problem so far. Pls. Help. I had some vacum problem not to long ago... is there any way i can find the vacum diagram for a 2000 GTS.??? idunno

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Aug 26, 9:37am - #260102 
you sure the engine was warm?

in neutral your motor is limited to 7100 rpms. when the motor is cold it has this same limit at 7100 rpms.

If this happened when you tried to launch the car you can hit that same 7100 rpms limiter. when the wheels spin too much the engine thinks it's free reving and instates the neutral rev limiter.

vacuum problem sounds like maybe you installed an Intake and didnt connect one of the hoses correctly?


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Aug 26, 10:21am - #260103 
2k GTS here as well. Check your lift bolts. Mine was seared off.

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Aug 26, 10:46am - #260104 
you must be a mobil 1 oil user?? nice bronze motor lol


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Aug 26, 2:44pm - #260105 
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
you sure the engine was warm?

in neutral your motor is limited to 7100 rpms. when the motor is cold it has this same limit at 7100 rpms.

If this happened when you tried to launch the car you can hit that same 7100 rpms limiter. when the wheels spin too much the engine thinks it's free reving and instates the neutral rev limiter.

vacuum problem sounds like maybe you installed an Intake and didnt connect one of the hoses correctly?
Agreed. Scared the shit out of me one night when I went to hit lift and I couldn't go past like 6.5k RPM.

Then I looked at the temperature needle.





If your lift bolts were broken, your powerband wouldn't end at 7k.

You either:

A: Have a GT that is badged as a GTS. Take a picture of the engine bay to be sure.

B: Your car isn't "warm." Wait until the car is fully warm to use lift.


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Aug 26, 3:29pm - #260106 
Originally Posted by MNP
Can somebody PLEASE GIVE me any reasons why the VVTL-i might not work????

you're supposed to turn the key clockwise

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Aug 26, 3:30pm - #260107 
first time I tried my drs with the 15" rims I hit the limiter launching at the track lol

worried me cause I was like WTF the cars been fine. turns out I dindt do a really good burnout and had too much pressure in the tires. add that to the smaller diameter and the ecu thought it was free reving lol so could be that too.

basically WE NEED MORE SPECIFIC INFO. rofl


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Aug 26, 4:05pm - #260108 
Common guys i am shure that i've got a GTS 6speed.. even when i changed my clutch.. on the block it sayd 2zz engine.. i don't know what to do.. and like i said the engine is warm.

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Aug 26, 4:12pm - #260109 
taking a picture of the engine bay wont prove anything i have a auto GT and it fills exactly the same as my friends GTS when he hits lift. when I bought the car they said it was a GT advanced package but the engine looks like a GT confused the only notice able difference in the 2 engines is the Intake manifold spineyes confused eek


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Aug 26, 4:13pm - #260110 
Like Lucky asked you in the post above, what size rims are you using?

I don't think it would make a difference since I think you aren't trying to launch in lift, but for the sake of the matter, more info is needed.

If your car is warm, then your lift bolts are broken.


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Aug 26, 4:14pm - #260111 
Originally Posted by JSPITZ
taking a picture of the engine bay wont prove anything i have a auto GT and it fills exactly the same as my friends GTS when he hits lift. when I bought the car they said it was a GT advanced package but the engine looks like a GT confused the only notice able difference in the 2 engines is the Intake manifold spineyes confused eek
How would a picture and a feeling have anything to do with one another?

First off, there is no such thing as a GT advanced package, and you are right, the Intake manifold is different, but there are a few more differences.


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Aug 26, 4:16pm - #260112 
broken bolts wont limit you to 7K

were you trying to launch the car?????????

perhaps if I make it bold you will respond.

also got a digital camcorder? take a quick vid. and did this happen only once or is it a recurring problem?


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Aug 26, 4:19pm - #260113 
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
broken bolts wont limit you to 7K

were you trying to launch the car?????????

perhaps if I make it bold you will respond.

also got a digital camcorder? take a quick vid. and did this happen only once or is it a recurring problem?
Yeah, I'm guessing that he hit 8k, but said 7k anyways.

Some newb said he accidentally downshifted and hit 11k. I asked him if he had a special motorcycle tach that read that high.


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Aug 26, 4:20pm - #260114 
Oh, on another note, there isn't an electrical VVTL-i actuator, is there? Just a variable valve timing one, right?

Could it be a problem with his ECU?


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Aug 26, 4:21pm - #260115 
Just a normal driving.. 1st gear,2nd gear i pushed all the way to 7000rpm when it bounces.. and use my stock rims and tires.. how can i fix my lift bolts if they are the problem??

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Aug 26, 4:25pm - #260116 
Originally Posted by MNP
Just a normal driving.. 1st gear,2nd gear i pushed all the way to 7000rpm when it bounces.. and use my stock rims and tires.. how can i fix my lift bolts if they are the problem??
Bolts aren't the problem if you bounce at 7000RPM. Like Lucky and I said before, you should be able to rev to at least redline with broken bolts.


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Aug 26, 4:30pm - #260117 
how do you think what's the problem?

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Aug 26, 4:31pm - #260118 
Are you 100% sure that you bounce at 7k RPM?


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Aug 26, 4:46pm - #260119 
YES.. exaclty 7k RPM..

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Aug 26, 4:52pm - #260120 
damn it..bring it in to have the dealer check it out..hope you still hae warranty..


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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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Aug 26, 7:02pm - #260121 
do you have a CEL? maybe your ecu went into safe mode.


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Aug 27, 4:40am - #260122 
For some reason the soft limiter is kicking in at 7000rpm which it does in neutral and when the engine is cold. Lift comes in at 6200rpm so do you feel it starting at all?

Your only solution is to take it to Toyota, get them to plug it in and they'll tell you exactly what the problem is. If its not under warranty still then you better get your wallet out. In the meantime i wouldn't go bouncing off any limiters because your're going to fuck your gearbox.


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Aug 27, 4:42pm - #260124 
Originally Posted by slidr
Oh, on another note, there isn't an electrical VVTL-i actuator, is there? Just a variable valve timing one, right?

Could it be a problem with his ECU?


Maybe... but yes, there is a solenoid that flows oil to the lift mechanism, it's called the oil control valve (or OCV) if that is fritzing out, that would explain the loss of lift, but not the 7K rev limit (unless the ECU is sensing the lack of oil pressure, and limiting the revs)


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Aug 27, 4:44pm - #260125 
I still think this guy has a GT, or maybe a GT face plate. rofl


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Aug 27, 7:06pm - #260126 
anyone in here live close to where he live?? in North Carolina??? or somewhere close to it that are willing to help this poor guy out?? Seem like he doesn't want to bring it to the dealer and have his problem/question answer...


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Aug 27, 7:50pm - #260127 
Originally Posted by Veilside_300
For some reason the soft limiter is kicking in at 7000rpm which it does in neutral and when the engine is cold. Lift comes in at 6200rpm so do you feel it starting at all?

Your only solution is to take it to Toyota, get them to plug it in and they'll tell you exactly what the problem is. If its not under warranty still then you better get your wallet out. In the meantime i wouldn't go bouncing off any limiters because your're going to fuck your gearbox.
lift dont kick in at 6200 my kicks in a 6000 how about you guys

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Aug 27, 7:53pm - #260128 
Originally Posted by Clos
Originally Posted by Veilside_300
For some reason the soft limiter is kicking in at 7000rpm which it does in neutral and when the engine is cold. Lift comes in at 6200rpm so do you feel it starting at all?

Your only solution is to take it to Toyota, get them to plug it in and they'll tell you exactly what the problem is. If its not under warranty still then you better get your wallet out. In the meantime i wouldn't go bouncing off any limiters because your're going to fuck your gearbox.
lift dont kick in at 6200 my kicks in a 6000 how about you guys
Tachs have a margin of error of about +-200 RPMs when you get into that range, so that's probably why.


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Aug 27, 9:44pm - #260129 
for me it's 6200 ever since i recalibrated the needle..b4 it was idling at 8 or 900rpm now it's idling at exactly 1k rpm..damn..shouldn't have taken the needle off..


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Aug 28, 6:18am - #260130 
I still think that the problem its my computer.. i'll try to find somebody with a GTS..so i can try his on my car.. and i want to fix it my self.. why would i pay somebody to do something that i can do it my self.. it may take a little longer time,but i'll fix it no mather what.. But if you guys really want to help.. i will trylly apreciatte that.. all i need its somebedy close to Charlotte NC area.. with a GTS so i can try his computer in my car...
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Aug 28, 9:03am - #260131 
some facts for ya to help elimante some of this

you can unplug the actuator and have no lift but still rev to 8300 rpms.

broken lift bolts even ones boken so bad that you have 0 lift will still let the car rev to 8300 rpms

you could try swapin ecus. I've never heard of anyone having that problem like you described so cant really help ya.

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Aug 28, 9:07am - #260132 
i have a aunt that lives right around u, but i dont usually drive over there, its a 5 hour trip, dont know the next time my family will go up there but wen they do if you still have this problem ill bring my ecu aiite

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Aug 28, 10:07am - #260133 
Hey tell it to springfield toyota


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Aug 28, 10:14am - #260134 
Originally Posted by lhowing884
sometimes mines kick in a lot and i feel a lot and sometimes i barely feel it. Sometimes it kicks in and sometimes it doesnt. Could it be that im not pushing the pedal all the way? And dont tell me its not a gts, cold engine, oil low and shit like that because im not that stupid.


Could it be that im not pushing the pedal all the way? And dont tell me its not a gts, cold engine, oil low and shit like that because im not that stupid.


u saying ur not stupid, but you saying ur not stepping on the gas hard? wut does that mean lol. when you pass over 6000rpm, lift will kick in, wut does that have to do with how hard you stepping on the pedal?

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Aug 30, 7:04am - #260135 
Here is what i've got so far..

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Aug 30, 9:34am - #260139 
is it just me or are those posts all blank?


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^^^ click "picture attachment" under the title of each post bud


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Aug 30, 11:00am - #260141 
^^ thanx, when did they start doin that?


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not sure. it confused me the first time someone did it too


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I FOUND THE DAMN PROBLEM ...IT WAS MY SPEED SENSOR.

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