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Style Aug 25, 11:20pm - #259463 

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RX-8 or S2000

Last night my friend just bought a S2000, and that car is fast as hell. I wondered what would happen if RX-8 and S2000 on a drag racing. Which car would you prefer for 1/4 miles?
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sickcelica696 Aug 25, 11:26pm - #259464 
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booyaolian Aug 25, 11:57pm - #259465 
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S2000 for sure.

it is the best car out there. N/A, reliable, and has plenty of hp.
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falkkor Aug 26, 12:02am - #259466 

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RX8 is a POS I hate those cars.
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cycocelica Aug 26, 12:05am - #259467 

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BReakinDrifTs Aug 26, 12:08am - #259468 
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S2K hands down.
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Joey Aug 26, 12:31am - #259469 

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s2k hands down!!
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Autocelica23 Aug 26, 12:32am - #259470 

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honda s2000 the original johnny tran crotch rocket

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xvtxboi508x Aug 26, 12:34am - #259471 

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GTSbyTRD Aug 26, 1:22am - #259472 

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rx8's are actually kinda slow i heard.

Also, didn't they have a recall problem in the earler models with them loosing power?

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rx-8 look cool, but are nothing

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celicaboy Aug 26, 1:30am - #259474 

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its a hard call for me because i like the s2000 but i hate hondas and i like the rx-8 i think that it would be a tie
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sho Aug 26, 1:32am - #259475 

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s2k will rape rx8 in anyway.drag or course.

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Polykarb Aug 26, 1:35am - #259476 

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SPECIFICATIONS:...

RX8:
Auto:1.3-liter RENESIS 2-rotor, 4-Intake-port, rotary engine HP197 @ 7200 rpm TORQUE 164 @ 5000 rpm
6spd:1.3-liter RENESIS 2-rotor, 6-Intake-port, rotary engine
HP 238 @ 8500 rpm TORQUE 159 @ 5500 rpm
WEIGHT:Curb Weight lb. (minimum w\ popular options) A/T:3,053 M/T: 3,029

S2000: 6spd
Engine Type: In-Line 4-Cylinder 16 Valve DOHC VTEC
HP 240 @ 7800RPM
TORQUE 162 @ 6500
WEIGHT: Curb Weight (lbs.) 2835

I think it is a drivers race, a look at the specs suggests it. The S2000 should have an edge...

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Chelica815 Aug 26, 1:46am - #259477 
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Get the S2K.

I do like the styling of the RX8 tho. But yeah, I am forced to get a sedan, I get a Mazda 3, those cars are nice.

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slidr Aug 26, 1:49am - #259478 

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Originally Posted by GTSbyTRD
rx8's are actually kinda slow i heard.

Also, didn't they have a recall problem in the earler models with them loosing power?
Nah, they just overrated them out of the factory. They were offering modifications or their money back.

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S2K if you like convertibles.
RX-8 if you like rotaries.

They're both a pretty good match for each other. Swap in a 3 rotor into that 8 and you've got a monster.
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CaddyShack Aug 26, 1:53am - #259480 

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s2k would win and i dont really like the looks of the rx-8 since it looks like an ant... s2k is also 200 lbs lighter with more hp and you have to reach passed redline to get the full hp of the rotary engine

another honda kill story is always welcome
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Jae Aug 26, 1:54am - #259481 

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They are like same car.
I heard from RX-8 forums that it only runs 14.3 in 1/4 mile.
And i know s2000 does 14.4.
They both are not a Drag racing car. They are made for handling. Although with s/c they kick ass.
I think it would be a driver race, kinda like gts and type s.
Over all rx-8 is more practical, its got 4 seats and better interior and better engineered suspension. it beat the celica in slalom.
where as s2000 is a pure and rough race car.
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slidr Aug 26, 1:54am - #259482 

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Originally Posted by CaddyShack
s2k would win and i dont really like the looks of the rx-8 since it looks like an ant... s2k is also 200 lbs lighter with more hp and you have to reach passed redline to get the full hp of the rotary engine
Not to mention that the S2K is RWD.

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amtemp Aug 26, 1:58am - #259483 

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Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by CaddyShack
s2k would win and i dont really like the looks of the rx-8 since it looks like an ant... s2k is also 200 lbs lighter with more hp and you have to reach passed redline to get the full hp of the rotary engine
Not to mention that the S2K is RWD.


I believe RX-8 Is also RWD. I cant remember where I read it but they say the RX-8 is slower than RX-7. So I would say that the s2000 would probably be more faster.
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Clos Aug 26, 2:11am - #259484 
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S2K lighter, and has more hp. the rx-8 are slow and eat off gas, i heard they break down so easy, so its not a good car, s2k even do its a honda, its a great car, and really fast. so the s2k would rape the rx-8
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slidr Aug 26, 2:15am - #259485 

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Originally Posted by amtemp

Originally Posted by slidr

Originally Posted by CaddyShack

s2k would win and i dont really like the looks of the rx-8 since it looks like an ant... s2k is also 200 lbs lighter with more hp and you have to reach passed redline to get the full hp of the rotary engine
Not to mention that the S2K is RWD.


I believe RX-8 Is also RWD. I cant remember where I read it but they say the RX-8 is slower than RX-7. So I would say that the s2000 would probably be more faster.
Cause the RX-7 was twin Turboed. And you are right, it is RWD. Don't know what I was thinking. I always think it's amazing how a 1.3 liter car could put out so much HP, but that's a rotary for ya.

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Clos Aug 26, 2:30am - #259486 
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yeah its fucking weird how they work, but they eat of gas, because they have to put out much more gas then we do, wen there in the stage of conpresion, or some shit like that
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qbanprepster21 Aug 26, 2:53am - #259487 
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its a rotary, which = no reliability, get the S2K, better choice!!

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cycocelica Aug 26, 3:08am - #259488 

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Originally Posted by celicaboy
its a hard call for me because i like the s2000 but i hate hondas and i like the rx-8 i think that it would be a tie


why do you hate hondas? i mean minus the civic
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Weasel Aug 26, 3:16am - #259489 

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Honda S2000 ya it's a honda but it is fast as hell. You can also put a massive Vortech charger on those to add some hp. it's also sweet if you get a convertable for the summer

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Psquared Aug 26, 3:20am - #259490 
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Hey, i have driven the rx-8 and it revs like a mother, but it seems to lack torque. I know the s2k torque numbers are close to the rx8's but the feeling just isn't there. It doesn't throw you back in your seat. Plus the rotary is a nice design, but they took it off the market years ago b/c of problems with it. I'm not saying this renesis is gonna have probs. but it's likely. The HONDA has an endless list of Performance parts anyhow, I'd say S2000!!!
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qbanprepster21 Aug 26, 3:22am - #259491 
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but even though the rotary is thumbsdown for reliability, they can take Turbo boost like a mOfO, i heard the stock twin Turbos on the RX-7 is at 14 or 15 or more psi, crazy shit!!!

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Jae Aug 26, 3:23am - #259492 

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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
its a rotary, which = no reliability, get the S2K, better choice!!


not really, the new renesis engine was the engine of the year for its reliability, that's the reason why they got rid of the twin Turbo. Since the 3rd gen TT rx-7 weren't very reliable. The new engine is quite nice. ITs very quiet, smooth and reliable.
As for s2000. Reason for them to lower the redline on newer models is becasue at 8k rpm, there were too much rattle in the engine and gives lot of stress on engine mount and engine parts. New s2000 is probably very reliable, but older s2000 wasn't that reliable.

You guys make it sound like if s2000 is SUPER FAST. They were never fast drag car. compare to celica, yes its little faster by .3-.5 secs. However, if compare to same classes such as evo8, 350z, and sti, s2000 are not very comparable in DRAG racing.

s2000 with vortech s/c got the BEST MOD SPORTS COMPACT CAR title.
s2000 has lot of mods and the mod makes this car very fast.
But as for rx-8, there aren't much aftermarket parts. And if it were to Turboed or s/c, it would be same as having Twin Turbo rotar2rotary engine from 3rd gen rx-7

If i were you, i would go with rx-8, its cheaper, much cheaper than s2000. Nice interior with great sound system. Nice exotic look in the outside. Much more rare than s2000. Newer car with better technology. Plus your insurance will be lot cheaper than s2000. since rx-8 is considered 4dr coupe.
But on the other hand, s2000 is a nice race car. Only a race car. If you know what i mean.
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BaTMaN_4 Aug 26, 3:24am - #259493 

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qbanprepster21 Aug 26, 3:30am - #259494 
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Originally Posted by Jae
Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
its a rotary, which = no reliability, get the S2K, better choice!!


not really, the new renesis engine was the engine of the year for its reliability, that's the reason why they got rid of the twin Turbo. Since the 3rd gen TT rx-7 weren't very reliable. The new engine is quite nice. ITs very quiet, smooth and reliable.
As for s2000. Reason for them to lower the redline on newer models is becasue at 8k rpm, there were too much rattle in the engine and gives lot of stress on engine mount and engine parts. New s2000 is probably very reliable, but older s2000 wasn't that reliable.

You guys make it sound like if s2000 is SUPER FAST. They were never fast drag car. compare to celica, yes its little faster by .3-.5 secs. However, if compare to same classes such as evo8, 350z, and sti, s2000 are not very comparable in DRAG racing.

s2000 with vortech s/c got the BEST MOD SPORTS COMPACT CAR title.
s2000 has lot of mods and the mod makes this car very fast.
But as for rx-8, there aren't much aftermarket parts. And if it were to Turboed or s/c, it would be same as having Twin Turbo rotar2rotary engine from 3rd gen rx-7

If i were you, i would go with rx-8, its cheaper, much cheaper than s2000. Nice interior with great sound system. Nice exotic look in the outside. Much more rare than s2000. Newer car with better technology. Plus your insurance will be lot cheaper than s2000. since rx-8 is considered 4dr coupe.
But on the other hand, s2000 is a nice race car. Only a race car. If you know what i mean.


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i wouldnt mind the rx-8, thats what my wife wants!!

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Rocketman Aug 26, 4:09am - #259497 

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Originally Posted by sho
s2k will rape rx8 in anyway.drag or course.


I disagree...S2000 would definately take the drag strip. However, those RX8's can REALLY handle. SO far it is the only car (modified of course) that could beat the hotchkis celicas slalom time... It was insane...
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qbanprepster21 Aug 26, 4:10am - #259498 
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cool, i did not know that

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s2000 isnt in the same league as the evo8 or 350z IMO... it may be around the same price but its still a 4 banger... as for gas, the rotary eats up a lot because it shoots out more gas per stroke or sumtin like that... bloodredgt explained it to me but i forgot how it was really... s2000 would also pick up the asian chicks while the rx-8 would get guys all googly-eyed

another honda kill story is always welcome
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blackcel Aug 26, 4:59am - #259500 

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S2k, imo the rx-8's arent that good looking.

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Jae Aug 26, 5:29am - #259502 

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Originally Posted by CaddyShack
s2000 isnt in the same league as the evo8 or 350z IMO... it may be around the same price but its still a 4 banger... as for gas, the rotary eats up a lot because it shoots out more gas per stroke or sumtin like that... bloodredgt explained it to me but i forgot how it was really... s2000 would also pick up the asian chicks while the rx-8 would get guys all googly-eyed


you just contradicted yourself by saying its still 4 banger...Evo8 and sti are 4 banger also.lol And not only that displacement on evo is smaller than s2000.
If displacement of engine seperates the class of cars, then rx-8 being 1.3l would be in same class with 68 mini cooper.

Its usually the price and hp of the car makes the class.
such as celica, intergra, eclipe-eventhough its v6, and all are in same class due to the hp and price.
I know that s2000 isn't as fast as other competitors, but there has to be worst cars from its class.
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ragingpaseo Aug 26, 2:17pm - #259504 
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on a striaght ahead zip, S2000...
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Im not really a fan of either but I think the rx-8 interior is way better.
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sho Aug 26, 7:50pm - #259507 

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by sho
s2k will rape rx8 in anyway.drag or course.


I disagree...S2000 would definately take the drag strip. However, those RX8's can REALLY handle. SO far it is the only car (modified of course) that could beat the hotchkis celicas slalom time... It was insane...
u will agree with me once uve seen the best motoring video(rotary reborn).

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Celian Aug 26, 9:40pm - #259508 
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I don't know about the rotaty engine. If you want to do any modification at all with this car, please read this article first. This is for RX-7 but should also be true for the RX-8 given as well since they are both using rotaty powerplant. Don't get me wrong, I like the car but the ability to mod is something to think about. I don't want to bring my car to a shop just to put on an Intake and exhaust (since it require tuning the ecu. You will understand after reading the article). Hope it help since it help me to stay away from an RX-8 and got my Celica.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/9901scc_projrx7/

I quoted:
One characteristic of the RX-7's unusual powerplant is its absolute intolerance to detonation. Unlike most conventional reciprocating engines which are able to withstand the abuse of knock, rotaries can fail (or at least become seriously compromised) with just a single, serious ping. This is one reason that rotaries are designed to run exceptionally rich air/fuel mixtures compared to their piston-laden counterparts. The RX-7, like most OEM Turbocharged cars, is equipped with an electronic knock sensor that keeps a constant vigil for the tell tale signs that usually lead to knock. Although Mazda has taken many precautions to keep the 13B running reliably and trouble-free, the powerplant is anything but foolproof-- especially in the hands of an inexperienced tuners.

"The FD (Mazda's designation for third generation RX-7) comes equipped with a MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor, not a typical MAF (mass air flow) sensor" states Brian, "This mean that the stock ECU does not readily compensate for increased flow caused by exhaust back-pressure reductions or a Intake upgrades. Reading only manifold pressure , the stock ECU relies on fixed maps that no longer deliver the required fuel for the increase in volumetric efficiency. Under this situation, a momentary lean-run condition can easily lead to detonation and apex seal damage."

So what about all those RX-7s that only sport the "latest and greatest" bolt-on upgrades with no attention to ECU modifications?
although these cars seem to be perfectly functional under short to medium-term use, they are often 'ticking time bombs', waiting for the right set of circumstances to self-destruct."
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cegonaxman Aug 31, 2:47am - #259509 

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my SR-71 is faster than all of the RX's and the S2000. Buy an SR-71 Blackbird! thumbsup spineyes spineyes

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sorry my bro gots a s2000 and there aint no better feeling then reaching 9,000 rpms in a car..
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