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Aug 24, 8:21am - #257984 
new ECU for transmission swap necessary!

So, now I have decided to have my tranny swapped to a manual as my next mod! But I got diffferent answers from different shops about ECU. Some say that I need a one from a manual and other shops say it doesnt need to be replaced. Does anyone know the truth.

Also, can I just get management system (Apex PFC, Greddy Emanange) to replace the ECU instead?

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Aug 24, 8:25am - #257985 
as long as you dont have the driveby wire you can add the PFC. thumbsup


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Aug 24, 8:29am - #257986 
oh yeah, I think I have that Drive By Wire shit. I have 03 celica GT, how would I find out if I definetely have that?


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Aug 24, 8:30am - #257987 
ECU's come in AT & MT configs, its written right on the ECU. So yes, unless you go with power FC, your going to need a new ECU (~$150 at a scrap yard).

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Aug 24, 8:31am - #257988 
Originally Posted by celicatalbot
oh yeah, I think I have that Drive By Wire shit. I have 03 celica GT, how would I find out if I definetely have that?


You shouldn't have DBW in your GT. Look under the Hood, you should have a throttle cable attached to your throttle body. thumbsup

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Aug 24, 8:34am - #257989 
Hmm, well just go with the power fc then lol


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Aug 24, 8:47am - #257990 
Cable:

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Aug 24, 8:49am - #257991 
Yup, I have one of them. Next question, when I buy the power Fuel controller, it needs to be programmed right? Whats involved and how much am I going to get screwed for??


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Aug 24, 8:55am - #257992 
Just get a stock ECU for the MT from the scrap yard. Power FC is a big investment & not worth it if you aren't doing some serious mods, IMO.

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Aug 24, 8:25pm - #257993 
what happens if you dont have that wire accross engine how can i mod it so i can do the same things?

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Aug 24, 8:39pm - #257994 
Originally Posted by cja252
what happens if you dont have that wire accross engine how can i mod it so i can do the same things?
Yeah, just no PFC.


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Aug 24, 8:41pm - #257995 
Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Just get a stock ECU for the MT from the scrap yard. Power FC is a big investment & not worth it if you aren't doing some serious mods, IMO.
I agree. So many people are getting these now, and don't realize that they have to be seriously calibrated if they want maximum gains. They also don't realize that they have to watch these things with a close eye, and really take care of their cars since they won't be pinging CELs and since it will put more stress on their engines.


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Aug 25, 9:42am - #257996 
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Just get a stock ECU for the MT from the scrap yard. Power FC is a big investment & not worth it if you aren't doing some serious mods, IMO.
I agree. So many people are getting these now, and don't realize that they have to be seriously calibrated if they want maximum gains. They also don't realize that they have to watch these things with a close eye, and really take care of their cars since they won't be pinging CELs and since it will put more stress on their engines.


def not a mod for casual users. only people who want max gains and plan on keeping your car in good shape.

It's also not a cheap mod.

for me though its the best mod i've got so far smile


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