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celicatalbot Aug 24, 3:21pm - #257984 
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new ECU for transmission swap necessary!

So, now I have decided to have my tranny swapped to a manual as my next mod! But I got diffferent answers from different shops about ECU. Some say that I need a one from a manual and other shops say it doesnt need to be replaced. Does anyone know the truth.

Also, can I just get management system (Apex PFC, Greddy Emanange) to replace the ECU instead?
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Lucky_317 Aug 24, 3:25pm - #257985 

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as long as you dont have the driveby wire you can add the PFC. thumbsup

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celicatalbot Aug 24, 3:29pm - #257986 
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oh yeah, I think I have that Drive By Wire shit. I have 03 celica GT, how would I find out if I definetely have that?

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 24, 3:30pm - #257987 
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ECU's come in AT & MT configs, its written right on the ECU. So yes, unless you go with power FC, your going to need a new ECU (~$150 at a scrap yard).
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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 24, 3:31pm - #257988 
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Originally Posted by celicatalbot
oh yeah, I think I have that Drive By Wire shit. I have 03 celica GT, how would I find out if I definetely have that?


You shouldn't have DBW in your GT. Look under the Hood, you should have a throttle cable attached to your throttle body. thumbsup
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Lucky_317 Aug 24, 3:34pm - #257989 

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Hmm, well just go with the power fc then lol

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 24, 3:47pm - #257990 
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celicatalbot Aug 24, 3:49pm - #257991 
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Yup, I have one of them. Next question, when I buy the power Fuel controller, it needs to be programmed right? Whats involved and how much am I going to get screwed for??

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 24, 3:55pm - #257992 
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Just get a stock ECU for the MT from the scrap yard. Power FC is a big investment & not worth it if you aren't doing some serious mods, IMO.
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cja252 Aug 25, 3:25am - #257993 
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what happens if you dont have that wire accross engine how can i mod it so i can do the same things?
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slidr Aug 25, 3:39am - #257994 

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Originally Posted by cja252
what happens if you dont have that wire accross engine how can i mod it so i can do the same things?
Yeah, just no PFC.

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slidr Aug 25, 3:41am - #257995 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Just get a stock ECU for the MT from the scrap yard. Power FC is a big investment & not worth it if you aren't doing some serious mods, IMO.
I agree. So many people are getting these now, and don't realize that they have to be seriously calibrated if they want maximum gains. They also don't realize that they have to watch these things with a close eye, and really take care of their cars since they won't be pinging CELs and since it will put more stress on their engines.

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Lucky_317 Aug 25, 4:42pm - #257996 

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Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Just get a stock ECU for the MT from the scrap yard. Power FC is a big investment & not worth it if you aren't doing some serious mods, IMO.
I agree. So many people are getting these now, and don't realize that they have to be seriously calibrated if they want maximum gains. They also don't realize that they have to watch these things with a close eye, and really take care of their cars since they won't be pinging CELs and since it will put more stress on their engines.


def not a mod for casual users. only people who want max gains and plan on keeping your car in good shape.

It's also not a cheap mod.

for me though its the best mod i've got so far smile

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