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forced induction #256493 Aug 22, 4:26pm Aug 22, 4:26pm
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forced induction
i was told that our engine is very hard to put any type of forced inductin on. Like we would need to get some ECU upgrades to tune everything properley. Is this true or was this Toyota Tech talking out of his ass?

Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256494 Aug 22, 4:30pm Aug 22, 4:30pm
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ic you have a GT and who ever told you that is fucking wrong and stupid. right now a GT is really easy to do forced induction and push 304WHP. there is a GTS on process that would probably push over 400WHP doing i think 16psi, so who ever told you that was wrong, our engines are good for forced induction, the gt more because it has a 8 something in compresion ration, GTS have 11 so if you have 8 you can bust a lot more, thats y its easy to forced induct a gt, but the gts can be tuned so yeah, you can forced induct celicas, of course if you have the money

Re: forced induction [Re: Clos] #256495 Aug 22, 4:31pm Aug 22, 4:31pm
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guys back me up

Re: forced induction [Re: Clos] #256496 Aug 22, 4:57pm Aug 22, 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Clos
ic you have a GT and who ever told you that is fucking wrong and stupid. right now a GT is really easy to do forced induction and push 304WHP. there is a GTS on process that would probably push over 400WHP doing i think 16psi, so who ever told you that was wrong, our engines are good for forced induction, the gt more because it has a 8 something in compresion ration, GTS have 11 so if you have 8 you can bust a lot more, thats y its easy to forced induct a gt, but the gts can be tuned so yeah, you can forced induct celicas, of course if you have the money


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Re: forced induction [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #256497 Aug 22, 5:45pm Aug 22, 5:45pm
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Wrong on a few things

Compression Ratio GT 10:1 / GTS 11.5: 1

The GTS Turbo is pushing 241 TO THE GROUND at 8Psi.

Re: forced induction [Re: falkkor] #256498 Aug 22, 5:45pm Aug 22, 5:45pm
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Not sure on GT Turbo.. .but if you go any higher then 8psi on GTS you risk blowing it cant take much more.

Re: forced induction [Re: falkkor] #256499 Aug 22, 5:48pm Aug 22, 5:48pm
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GT or GTS, to get 300WHP, low compression pistons are required.

Re: forced induction [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #256500 Aug 22, 5:51pm Aug 22, 5:51pm
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Yeah you cant get that much out of stock internals, and if you have the $$ for a Turbo I would hope you can get an ECU upgrade as well. If you want better then 240 to the ground prepare to spend some serious $$ and time.

Re: forced induction [Re: falkkor] #256501 Aug 22, 6:05pm Aug 22, 6:05pm
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yeah, and on a gts if you Turbo it you should set the lift to engage passt the limiter, otherwise you risk increased wear with the dual boosts.


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Re: forced induction [Re: combatc87] #256502 Aug 22, 6:53pm Aug 22, 6:53pm
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It's all about tuning and replacing parts if you have a GTS. If you have the money, the sky is the limit!


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Re: forced induction [Re: Polykarb] #256503 Aug 22, 8:08pm Aug 22, 8:08pm
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yea. i have a gt. i know i would have to replace the pistons and get low compression ones which cost about $800. I was looking at the stafford Turbo kit which puts out 233whp @ 8psi. what else would be needed to replace? I know the ECU would be one thing.


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Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256504 Aug 22, 8:10pm Aug 22, 8:10pm
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u can get them for 500 bucks unless you want the bore kit

Re: forced induction [Re: ikin] #256505 Aug 22, 9:47pm Aug 22, 9:47pm
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cool i want 230 whp thumbsup


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Re: forced induction [Re: ikin] #256506 Aug 22, 9:47pm Aug 22, 9:47pm
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where at? the only place i found them at was monkeyracing.com .


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Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256507 Aug 23, 10:36am Aug 23, 10:36am
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celica can handle 11 lbs of boost on stock internals. and will do ALOT more then 240 whp wink

removing lift causes you to LOSE a lot of power.

but since this guys has a gt we wont worry about all that.

I watched them install a SF Turbo into my teamates GT this weekend. once he hits the dyno we'll see first hand what kinda boost and power it will make. I also suggest the PFC for tuning cause it will be easier and you'll make more power IMO.

the SF kits are very nice.


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Re: forced induction [Re: Lucky_317] #256508 Aug 23, 3:48pm Aug 23, 3:48pm
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thanks lucky. Find out that dyno ASAP! I would rather spend the money on this than getting body work. Sleeper would be really nice.


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Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256509 Aug 23, 3:54pm Aug 23, 3:54pm
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turbo on a celica! tasty

Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256510 Aug 23, 3:57pm Aug 23, 3:57pm
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00celica00gt, If the guy was a legitimate Toyota tech, he could've told you about the TRD supercharger kit, it will bolt up to your car, it comes with a reprogramed ECU, and is an easy install for a guy like him.

The only issue is Hood clearance, but an aftermarket Hood with more clearance(or the one that TRD was working on for the kit) will fix that problem. I've also seen cars where they cut a hole in the Hood, and add a Hood blister to fit the supercharger.

You definitely have options on a GT


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Re: forced induction [Re: Rave669] #256511 Aug 23, 4:27pm Aug 23, 4:27pm
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can't look too sleeper with a big shiny intercooler in the front lol


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Re: forced induction [Re: Lucky_317] #256512 Aug 23, 5:30pm Aug 23, 5:30pm
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buying the SF Turbo kit is a bit expensive. maybe you should buy a WRX Turbo for cheap and do all the custom piping, then again the custom part is expensive but hey its worth it, youll be ripping up the road with a crazy ass Turbo!


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Re: forced induction [Re: Autocelica23] #256513 Aug 23, 6:10pm Aug 23, 6:10pm
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I asked him about the TRD supercharger. He said it is worthless and only gives about 25-30wph.


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Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256514 Aug 23, 6:14pm Aug 23, 6:14pm
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I don't know if this is the best route. All i really wanna do is add about 50-60hp.


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Re: forced induction [Re: 00celica00gt] #256515 Aug 23, 6:59pm Aug 23, 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by 00celica00gt
I asked him about the trd supercharger. He said it is worthless and only gives about 25-30wph.


Put low compression pistons in & re-pully that SOB & she'll start to push some boost. thumbsup

Re: forced induction [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #256516 Aug 23, 7:08pm Aug 23, 7:08pm
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I heard its hard to fit a Turbo unless you move the fuse box. Super should fit easily, on the other hand. Find a Hood that fits it, too.

I'll stick with N/A parts, like exhuast,headers, and Intake. F/I is too expensive!


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Re: forced induction [Re: Sancho] #256517 Aug 23, 7:14pm Aug 23, 7:14pm
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hmmmm perhaps...thats why you got to save up son


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Re: forced induction [Re: Sancho] #256518 Aug 23, 7:16pm Aug 23, 7:16pm
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omg eek it sounds like that toyota jackass doesnt want your car to be faster than his!! rofl how dare he say "oh no you shouldnt do that and no you cant do that so EAT MY CIVICS DUST" lol what a maroon!!! i would go back there and very technically give him THE FINGER happywink


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Originally Posted by celicagirlie
omg eek it sounds like that toyota jackass doesnt want your car to be faster than his!! rofl how dare he say "oh no you shouldnt do that and no you cant do that so EAT MY CIVICS DUST" lol what a maroon!!! i would go back there and very technically give him THE FINGER happywink
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Re: forced induction [Re: celicagirlie] #256520 Aug 23, 8:16pm Aug 23, 8:16pm
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from what I read your gunna need to upgrade your internals.. To be safe.. I mean yes you can run like 11psi as ^^^ people were saying but how long is your engine gunna last.. Reasonably if you want to have your engine run for more than a week and still be pushing 11psi than your gunna need to upgrade your internals!

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right now a GT is really easy to do forced induction and push 304WHP.
After a lot of money... The only guy that has even reached that is C2Gas and Other Guy (Forgot his name) Both spent around 8Grand if not more.. If your gunna do Turbo don't go for the quick boost.. think about spending abit more and getting it tunned just right. If all about how you use your power!

As far as most those kits... the ONLY kit that you should be looking at is C2Gas! Please guys read up on these kits.. I don't mean to bash other kits but just read some of the feedback from them!

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I was looking at the stafford Turbo kit which puts out 233whp @ 8psi. what else would be needed to replace? I know the ECU would be one thing.
Piston's Rods and vavles and valve springs. Cyl. Heads.. List goes if you wanna run it safe.

The shop that is doing my build has told me that they willn't use any of the stock internals after I boost my celica! They also are giving life-time warrently and I also going to run a 375hp Garrett t3/t4 Turbo.


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celica can handle 11 lbs of boost on stock internals. and will do ALOT more then 240 whp
I ask you sir... Did that engine blow within a week? I bet it did!

This is C2Gas's Engine List
He has ALOT MORE THAN INTERNALS
Celica GT 6 speed
C2 st3 Turbo (14 psi)~300whp (not dynoed yet)
Crower rods.,Wiseco 8,8:1 pistons
Ported and mod. c.head
VENOM nitro,
Greddy e-manage
PE 550cc, PE fuel pump
Oil cooler



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I don't know if this is the best route. All i really wanna do is add about 50-60hp.

Nitrous! is the way to go! if thats what your looking for or your can simply get new Headers. PFC,get it tunned!, Exhaust. TPR Intake. and other mis. stuff

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I'll stick with N/A parts, like exhuast,headers, and Intake. F/I is too expensive!
We'll see what you say about that we go Flying past you with F/I. May be expensive but so is a fun hobbie. What better things to spend money on.. hahah rofl

Hope this helps abit wave

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