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JST2GTBY Aug 21, 12:39pm - #255393 

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XS TURBO KIT+ STOCK TRANSMISSION= PROBLEMS?

Ok, well, I have a gts and im really considering on getting the XS Turbo kit. I was wondering if anyone has any idea of how the tranny reacts to the kit? Should I be expecting problems with my stock tranny?? confused Thanks guys! wave

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ImportRacer Aug 21, 2:32pm - #255394 
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Well first off dont get the XS kit. Get the SF or the JPR kits. And they come programed for a stock motor so it is good.
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JST2GTBY Aug 21, 2:57pm - #255395 

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Why not XS??? From what ive read it looks like its the most complete kit out there. Or am I mistaken?? confused

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ImportRacer Aug 21, 3:03pm - #255396 
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From what I've heard there had been nothing but problems from that kit everyone loves the sf kit though.
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GraSSRooTs Aug 21, 4:01pm - #255397 

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Originally Posted by ImportRacer
From what I've heard there had been nothing but problems from that kit everyone loves the sf kit though.

I hear the same. The only complaint I hear about SF is that they take a while to ship their kits, but its worth the while.

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booyaolian Aug 21, 6:43pm - #255398 
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C2gas's kit is also good.

SF or C2gas
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GT2111 Aug 21, 9:23pm - #255399 
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C2Gas is the only way to go! Read up about the kits! You won't read one bad thing about C2Gas's KIT!
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falkkor Aug 22, 1:18am - #255400 

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how many topics on this are you goign to make?
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JST2GTBY Aug 22, 5:11pm - #255401 

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my bad, i posted it here and under tuning and under any topic. My bad frown Its my first time doing this so i was a little lost, sorry if i posted it twice! but thanks for the tips guys and gals thumbsup

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xvtxboi508x Aug 22, 8:42pm - #255402 

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i cant find any topics on c2gas kit
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Lucky_317 Aug 23, 5:41pm - #255403 

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XS = dog crap. better worry about problems other then your tranny with them smile

for more info on c2gas you'll want to check out the "other" celica site that we cant mention here.

SF takes a lil while to ship because he's got a small shop and the kits are not mass produced.
I have liked what I've seen from the SF kits smile

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GT2111 Aug 23, 6:51pm - #255404 
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I don't think I should be saying this but go to
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For all your info on kits.. ECeliac doesnt have any good topic's on kits.. Go there
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celicagirlie Aug 23, 7:05pm - #255405 

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n ewcelica.org is run by bluebatmobile if im not mistaken...so i dont think its bad if you mention it lol thumbsup

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Lucky_317 Aug 23, 10:15pm - #255406 

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Originally Posted by celicagirlie
n ewcelica.org is run by bluebatmobile if im not mistaken...so i dont think its bad if you mention it lol thumbsup


you would be mistaken. the "other" site is run by larry D who doesnt like me much but I post there anyways cause I'm sure it irritates him smile lol

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Octaandy Aug 24, 2:05am - #255407 
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take a look at http://www.jrponline.com/gallery/gts.asp
they are claiming their gts gets 295 to the wheels before fueling adjustments
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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 24, 2:07am - #255408 
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Originally Posted by Octaandy
take a look at http://www.jrponline.com/gallery/gts.asp
they are claiming 295 to the wheels before fueling adjustments


eek thumbsup thumbsup

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JST2GTBY Aug 24, 7:40am - #255409 

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DAAAAMN THAT SHIT LOOKS NICE tasty

I coulnt find anything on the C2 either, but ill check out that other site. Thanks LUCKY thumbsup

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GT2111 Aug 24, 2:50pm - #255410 
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Here is the C2Gas Site - www.c2power.com
These guys know what there doing! I'd trust them overa anyone!

As far as the JRP is isn't finished yet and I don't know if you wanna buy a BRAND NEW product.. You might want to wait abit and get some of the feedback on them.. You never know what problems the kit may have.. Thats a lot of HP for a stock celica... Interenals and tranny might not be able to hold! I fact I know that they won't!
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Lucky_317 Aug 24, 3:49pm - #255411 

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my problem with c2gas 's kit is that it just doesnt look like it will hold up under a lot of abuse. the flanges look very thin and weak. Not a good idea for people who plan on beating up the car at the track. The SF kits I know for a fact can take the abuse because we've put it through hell lol.

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GT2111 Aug 24, 5:10pm - #255412 
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But the thing with SF and Yea there parts have been through hell.. Have you seen some of the pictures on the "other" site about how they come after shipping.. I just don't know if they are the most reliable.
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Lucky_317 Aug 24, 9:11pm - #255413 

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the only thing I knew of that had a few issues was the fuel rail. was missing something from the kit.

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JST2GTBY Aug 25, 6:10am - #255414 

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I went to check out the C2 but is it me? or do they only have a kit for the 1zz???? cry I couldnt find anything for the 2zz... btw, that manifold design they have going is f****n kick ass!!!! thumbsup

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GT2111 Aug 25, 2:14pm - #255415 
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They are currently fab. the 2zz. I will be out very soon!
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Lucky_317 Aug 25, 4:21pm - #255416 

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everyone does the GT first cause its easier lol

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sickcelica696 Aug 25, 4:27pm - #255417 
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xs kits have few problems, its just the stock gts tranny is weak as shit, any Turbo kit thats put to it blows it up unless you upgrade everything for the power being produced
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Lucky_317 Aug 25, 4:31pm - #255418 

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hmm my teamate had the XS kit first and that thing was poop wink switched to the SF kit and it worked ALOT better. his stock tranny is in better condition then mine he's had 240+ whp for a looooong time. last dyno was 277 and 204 tq

the tranny isnt all that bad thumbsup

now when you abuse it like I do after having it rebuilt by the dealer you will have issues.

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GT2111 Aug 25, 4:31pm - #255419 
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^^ not if you run a low psi.. You can run like 5psi on stock internals and not risk blowing your engine but your tranny won't hold for very long... It might but it is risky.

Celica tranny's suck at holding power from what i've read I wouldn't test that either... I'd rather just be safe and upgrade

Originally Posted by Lucky_317
everyone does the GT first cause its easier lol


What about JRP? Gt Turbo is easier though.. Less things to work about. Its just a plain up motor.. Hell they could copy the Jetta 1.8t if they wanted..
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Lucky_317 Aug 25, 4:38pm - #255420 

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Originally Posted by GT2111
^^ not if you run a low psi.. You can run like 5psi on stock internals and not risk blowing your engine but your tranny won't hold for very long... It might but it is risky.


hes had his car Turboed for over a year now. same tranny and plenty of track days. smile plus a daily driver most of the time.

tranny is fine.


JRP is still prototype and isnt out yet as far as I know. (could be wrong) I dont check up on them often.

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oas Aug 25, 4:43pm - #255421 
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i heard the stock trainy can hold 300hp but not so mutch torque
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GT2111 Aug 25, 4:47pm - #255422 
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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
hes had his car Turboed for over a year now. same tranny and plenty of track days. smile plus a daily driver most of the time.


Damn I want his car! haha What kidna psi is he running?
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Lucky_317 Aug 25, 6:59pm - #255423 

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^^ between 8-11 before but the car is getting a few upgrades right now smile

the goal is to have all of our cars back up and goin with thier new mods by november 13.

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GT2111 Aug 26, 5:47am - #255424 
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^^^ gotta keep me posted cause im gettin ready for my engine build and custom Turbo... I wanna run like 12psi... If not more.. Must keep me updated!
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Arch Aug 26, 4:52pm - #255425 
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XS KIT looks good to me...then again thats what ive ordered...First Gen kits were bad...2nd gen I hear no problems...plus only 8psi...and apex power fc, replacement ecu...I know of 2 people in SO-CAl with the XS kit and heard no problems..one guy added 30,000 mile on the Turbo kit and still running strong...i did research on other forums on the jrp Turbo and i heard that the tranny couldnt handle the HP...dood...295...
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Lucky_317 Aug 26, 4:57pm - #255426 

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^^ wish you the best of luck then lol with the power fc pre-programming is rarely final.

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Thats true i must agree...Do you have the Stafford Kit for the GTS? I need some good a$$ reviews if im going to switch..just because you know anyone and everyone wants to have the best Turbo out there...
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Lucky_317 Aug 26, 5:09pm - #255428 

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where you from in CA? I dont have a Turbo but 3 of my teamates have switched to SF and I have seen only good things from it smile 1 of them in particular had the XS kit and switched over. theres a big demand on the SF kits right now so it's taking a lil while for people to get their kits. definitely worth the wait IMO. once you start adding the alchohol injection and stuff that kit can put down some serious power.

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Yes i am in CA...but anyhow...i was reading up on this C2GAS kit...and sounds pretty legit...Stage 2 would be interesting to see...as for the STAFFORD kit...HAA HAA HAA HAA what a joke..who would want to deal with them if people who ordered there kits in March and still havent received there kit...Very Very Bad customer service.. There kits may be cool but good luck of getting through to them...thats too bad..they could of made a lot more money than what there making now.
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is there any way anyone can post pics or clips of their friends Turbo'd celis??(Lucky)(Arch) grin Im in Rosemead in Cali and who knows, if you guys dont mind, my car can hopefully be as tight as urs?? thumbsup Im still stock, but like i said, its kinda hard to install shit in your car when your fucken half a world away cry

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SPECVRACING Aug 29, 6:52am - #255431 
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JRP is currently looking for a 00+ Celica to 2nd test there Turbo kit... And you only pay for parts. eek


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About C2power kits.

Imagine we live in Europe, and these kits being tested in europe, we have 80mph speed limit here, and no speed limit at all in Germany, these cars been tested running excess 150MPH for long runs, i guess that is a lot more then what you can push out of your car in the US.

We also have a GTS prototype now, and we will start selling GTS kits very soon, actually i can allready take pre orders for GTS, or ship GT kits in 2 weeks.

look at some picture we got and ask questions if you need answers.

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prototype GTS header and Turbo installed on the engine:
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Finished stage2 install whit apexi filter, look at how clean, and simple, almost stock looking it is:

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Lucky_317 Sep 1, 4:50pm - #255435 

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nice lookin GT smile

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
Originally Posted by celicagirlie
n ewcelica.org is run by bluebatmobile if im not mistaken...so i dont think its bad if you mention it lol thumbsup


you would be mistaken. the "other" site is run by larry D who doesnt like me much but I post there anyways cause I'm sure it irritates him smile lol


LOL rofl

funny, but true. it's quite difficult to get banned there.

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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Lucky_317 Sep 1, 5:39pm - #255437 

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especially for me smile I've pushed it close a couple times lol worst that happened was a 1 week ban rofl

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are you still selling the GT kit next summer? and can you innstall it and if so ho mutch for innstall? grin
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Where do you like, we can work anywhere in Europe!

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ok nice thumbsup
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808CeLiCa Sep 2, 8:04am - #255441 
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ok... straight out of the box...for every kit whats the horsepower on it? sf kit is good but why? with tunning which kit will have the most power? XS kit comes with basically everything you need but can you still tune it and get more power? sf kit comes with? what else do you need to get if you got the sf kit? does c2 come with everything like XS kit? need answers because im goin to order my kit this week and im heading towards XS unless someone changes my mind

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c2gas Sep 2, 12:42pm - #255442 

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Originally Posted by 808CeLiCa

ok... straight out of the box...for every kit whats the horsepower on it? sf kit is good but why? with tunning which kit will have the most power? XS kit comes with basically everything you need but can you still tune it and get more power? sf kit comes with? what else do you need to get if you got the sf kit? does c2 come with everything like XS kit? need answers because im goin to order my kit this week and im heading towards XS unless someone changes my mind


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