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AZZKIKR Aug 17, 9:21pm - #251897 

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OMG! 1zz cam info update!

some know, some don't about the cat-cams camshaft's for the 1zz engine...they are 256/220 degrees on the Intake camshaft, and 245/213 degrees on the exhaust side with 10.30mm of lift, and 9.50 mm of lift respectively. I've been really really looking to put these into my engine, but was afraid that the vvti function would fuck them (and my motor) all to hell. so I treid talking to the crew at MWR and they didn;t think that the cams even existed..hehehe rofl, and then I turned to my friends at Titan motorsports ( used to live in FL)

I asked them what their experience was with the 1998 supras with the VVTI and the aftermarket cams that HKS and JUN made for the supra Turbos. I asked if they had run into any trouble with the stock ecu and the cams due to the vvti, or did they have to install an aftermarket standalone ecu to get the motor to work properly. They said that they haven't had any trouble with the cams, and the stock VVTI ecu!!!!! they also said that they have had gains of 20 - 40 whp eek eek eek grin grinon stock to single Turbo supras...so yeah...if this is true, then I may be finishing my all motor project by next spring...yeah baby!!!!...plus with the duration I should get most of that power down low grin grin goodjob goodjob
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GT2111 Aug 17, 9:24pm - #251898 
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God to hear.. Than I don't have to look into spending more money on cams.. HERE COMES THE Turbo!
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AZZKIKR Aug 17, 9:29pm - #251899 

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go for it bro...maybe cams with the Turbo tasty
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hector Aug 17, 9:39pm - #251900 

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thank god, that means i can get tthe fc and take it out when the test comes up! damn you took forever to tell us but hey, it works thanks man thumbsup rice
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JSPITZ Aug 17, 9:54pm - #251902 

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ct Aug 17, 10:08pm - #251903 

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Originally Posted by AZZKIKR

They said that they haven't had any trouble with the cams, and the stock VVTI ecu!!!!! they also said that they have had gains of 20 - 40 whp eek eek eek grin grinon stock to single Turbo supras...so yeah...


just don't expect that kind of gain in a 1zz motor. you'll more likeley get 10whp...great news for the 1zz guys...now how about some cams for the 2zz??!! spineyes

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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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ikin Aug 17, 10:15pm - #251904 
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when you r going na you need all the whp you can get! thumbsup
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SkyhighRedline Aug 17, 10:50pm - #251905 
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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by AZZKIKR

They said that they haven't had any trouble with the cams, and the stock VVTI ecu!!!!! they also said that they have had gains of 20 - 40 whp eek eek eek grin grinon stock to single Turbo supras...so yeah...


just don't expect that kind of gain in a 1zz motor. you'll more likeley get 10whp...great news for the 1zz guys...now how about some cams for the 2zz??!! spineyes


can anybody shed some light on the 2zz side of things? btw azzkikr how much did this project cost you so far...im guessing quite a bit?
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slidr Aug 18, 2:00am - #251906 

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by AZZKIKR

They said that they haven't had any trouble with the cams, and the stock VVTI ecu!!!!! they also said that they have had gains of 20 - 40 whp eek eek eek grin grinon stock to single Turbo supras...so yeah...


just don't expect that kind of gain in a 1zz motor. you'll more likeley get 10whp...great news for the 1zz guys...now how about some cams for the 2zz??!! spineyes
If that.

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Sultan Aug 18, 2:58am - #251907 

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ikin Aug 18, 3:20am - #251908 
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with these new cams, where will we feel the power, all across the rpm range, low-end, high-end, do you know professor azzkikr? confused
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AZZKIKR Aug 18, 1:41pm - #251909 

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Sultan: yes, I know...hehehehehehehehe

Ikin: The following is a list of Intake cam durations and their powerband:

Intake cam duration / (degrees) (powerband)

190 - 205 / idle - 3500 rpm
206 - 220 / 1,500 - 4,500rpm
221 - 230 / 2000 - 5500rpm
231 - 234 / 2500 - 6000rpm
234 - 238 / 3000 - 6500rpm
239 - 244 / 3500 - 7000rpm
245 - 256 / 4000 - 7000rpm

so you see ikin, with these cams, our cars will really come alive in the mid rpm range to redline (I got this info from crane cams, and before I thought that the rpm range would be a little lower, but oh well)...it should also provide a little better torque (not a ton, but definitely better)...
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hkysk8r86 Aug 18, 2:58pm - #251910 

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I'm with sultan, BUY DEM BITCHES! thumbsup
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ikin Aug 18, 3:09pm - #251911 
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AZZKIKR you said you got hte info from cranecams, are these the same as catcams?
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GT2111 Aug 18, 4:48pm - #251912 
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Where can I buy these cams at?
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AZZKIKR Aug 18, 4:50pm - #251913 

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ikin:...its just a generalization of how cam duration affects your powerband

Gt211: you can buy them from JRPonline.com...they are $860 for the set
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AZZKIKR Aug 18, 5:27pm - #251914 

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JUST SHIT ON A STICK!!!!!!!!! I just checked my email, and I got another email from one of the guys at titan motorsports in FL...he said that he forgot to tell me that on the VVTi engine you can only install the Intake camshaft as the VVTI affects the exhaust cam...wish they would have told me that before I got all excited
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Sultan Aug 18, 7:09pm - #251915 

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AZZKIKR Aug 18, 7:16pm - #251916 

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^^^^ yeah, like I said bro...wish they'd have told me that before I got all excited
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ikin Aug 18, 8:46pm - #251917 
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SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT angry so you need the fc to tune the car if you get the exhaust!!!!! can you buy seperate or do they come in a pair?
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AZZKIKR Aug 18, 9:22pm - #251918 

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they come as a pair...oh well
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Tru_gts Aug 18, 9:27pm - #251919 
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ikin Aug 18, 9:30pm - #251920 
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so you need an fc if you get, well the fc is not obd-ii. what is that i know it mean on board diagnostic system, but cant a fc be tuned to be smog legal/?
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AZZKIKR Aug 19, 3:39pm - #251921 

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ikin, it won't change your emissions. it will just basically tune your VVTI and your engine's air/fuel ratio. Not being OBD-II means that you can't plug an obd-II diagnostic tool up to your car and get a check engine code. You should pass the emissions test as long as your engine is running ok, and your cat is good. I've heard from a lot of dealers that they replace a lot of catalytic converters on the celica for some reason, tho so watch out for that
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YoshiVS Aug 19, 3:52pm - #251922 

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GTS2003BLK Aug 19, 4:02pm - #251923 

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Celica burns through catalytic converters because it's a Beast! angry

The catalytic converter is like a leash or a restraining bolt that attempts to contain the beast, the Celica's natural tendency is to fight this restraint by breathing fire and releasing Borg Celica nano probes to burn and eat away at the catalytic converter. rofl spineyes

All kidding aside; maybe Celica's exhaust gas temp is higher than most other cars?
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Clos Aug 19, 4:16pm - #251924 
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damn no cams for the 2zz? get some info on this for us GTS owners, and that does suck that you can only get the Intake cam, but you should still get gains from it right? good luck with all that and give us some info aiite, thanks
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