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slidr Aug 16, 10:49pm - #251187 

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How much to loosen 2 damn NUTS?!

Ok, as some of you may know, I took my rear strut assemblies off of my car, but couldn't get the nut off of the top of the assembly due to the fact that it was on too tight and because it's gay.

Took it to a local shop today, and they said that they will not take the nut off, but rather only do the whole install for me for $75 (just for the rear since the front is done).

I told them bullshit because I'm not having my car towed in order for them to do this, and all I want it two little nuts loosened. That's all.

Even took it to Autozone to see if they could do it, and the guy said the compressor was broken.

Gonna try for more estimates tomorrow, but this is bullshit. How much should I be looking to pay, $5? laughsilly


Douche bags.

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silver Aug 17, 12:21am - #251188 
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Take a pipe and stick it onto the handle of your wrench, then try turning it. The extra leverage should help you break the bolt loose. If it's REALLY stuck, spray it will WD40 and go to Sears and buy a breaker bar, it's a long bar with a drive head on the end. There's no ratchet, so it can't break (it's not that hard to break a socket wrench). Use the pipe trick with the breaker bar as well. You need to be absolutely sure that you are using the correct socket, because if you aren't, it's very easy to strip the nut. They you're fucked.
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hephaestus Aug 17, 1:31am - #251189 
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Yeah, I was going to write something earlier about the breaker bar and/or pipe, but I thought you might have tried that already. Are you sure the piston shaft isn't rotating when you are trying to take that damn bolt off? I don't remember your strut type and I know that's a stupid question, but you did try to secure it properly with a vice and some cardboard/cloth to dull the teeth maybe and then try the above method? Some liquid wrench or similar s**t might be better than WD-40. Spray that mother down and try again. Your right about the bulls**t shops you have been going to. I sometimes can't for the life of me get certain bolts lose and I even bent tools and snapped a hex key once. I take that stuff to my local mechanic and he gets it off and only charges me a couple of dollars.
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slidr Aug 17, 2:33am - #251190 

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Thanks for the tips guys, and I'm going to try and clamp it down with a vice and try it again tonight.

It seems like no matter how hard I try, I always wind up breaking the hex key.

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AZZKIKR Aug 17, 2:39am - #251191 

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bro...go to autozone and get some damn liquid wrench...$3.00 and a wait overnight while it sits and saturates on the bolt, and that fucker will definitely come off tomorrow
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umm yeah DO NOT put the pipe on the end of your wrench unless you want it to break. get a breaker bar and stick a pipe on the end of that (not a 2 way mech) it'll save you from having to buy another wrench and the breaker later on.

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DjFox1270 Aug 17, 3:13am - #251193 
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Seriously.

Take a breaker bar and a wrench to it in a vice and twist opposite directions with the breaker bar and wrench and that will come off.

WD40 and Liquid Wrench will help too.

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hephaestus Aug 17, 4:04am - #251194 
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slidr, I just saw your initial topic and please humor me, but what is the hex/allen key used for in the first place? It shouldn't be used for loosening any thing on your damper like that top nut. What type of spring/strut is on there? What were you trying to do with it? I hope you didn't damage anything. I'm confused here. I'm going to bed soon so if you can elaborate some more for me exactly the settup you have and what you tried so far exactly that would be great.
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slidr Aug 17, 4:04am - #251195 

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Originally Posted by DjFox1270
Seriously.

Take a breaker bar and a wrench to it in a vice and twist opposite directions with the breaker bar and wrench and that will come off.

WD40 and Liquid Wrench will help too.

*ndy
Use the breaker bar on the hex hole, while turning with a wrench?

So I should just put a hex socket on a breaker bar, put that in the hex hole, and turn the bolt in the opposite way with a wrench?

Should I be applying that much torque to the hex, or should I apply it to the nut while just simply holding the hex?

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hephaestus Aug 17, 4:06am - #251196 
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I replied to your first post. Please reply soon to either posts.
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slidr Aug 17, 4:07am - #251197 

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Originally Posted by hephaestus
slidr, I just saw your initial topic and please humor me, but what is the hex/allen key used for in the first place? It shouldn't be used for loosening any thing on your damper like that top nut. What type of spring/strut is on there? What were you trying to do with it? I hope you didn't damage anything. I'm confused here. I'm going to bed soon so if you can elaborate some more for me exactly the settup you have and what you tried so far exactly that would be great.
There is a "piston" in the middle of the bolt. The piston will rotate as you try and turn the nut that is around the piston. In the manual, it tells you to hold the piston with a hex key as you turn the nut with a wrench...
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hephaestus Aug 17, 4:10am - #251198 
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What's your exact strut/spring settup?
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hephaestus Aug 17, 4:23am - #251199 
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Compress the spring so you have enough room to put a vice around the piston shaft. Make sure the teeth of the vice don't dig into your strut piston shaft. Use thick cardboard and some cloth to make sure the teeth of the vice don't scrap or mark the piston for it will ruin them (unless you don't care).Make sure it's TIGHT. This will leave your 2 hands free to deal with the nut w/out worrying about that hex key/allen key. Use a breaker bar or a pipe added to the wratchet to break the nut lose, but be careful not to strip those bolts. Like said before an overnight coat of some Liquid Wrench might ease things a bit. If all else fails and you don't want to spend the money to have some shop take it off in 10 mins., get a Dremmel or something a little more powerful and cut those suckers off. You have to be careful not to damage the threads and also have the spring compressed so everything doesn't fly off and harm you.
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slidr Aug 17, 5:06am - #251200 

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Originally Posted by hephaestus
What's your exact strut/spring settup?
I'm just trying to dismantle the stock shock absorber assembly so I can remove the stock spring and replace it with a lowering spring...

By the way, thanks for the help.

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slidr Aug 17, 5:14am - #251201 

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Hopefully I will have enough room in the vice in order to hold the piston shaft with it.

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DjFox1270 Aug 18, 12:43am - #251202 
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Do everything the manual says. See if you can aquire a breaker bar with a rachet hex adapter on it.

That is what I used.

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Larry_GTS Aug 18, 3:44am - #251203 
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nah dude get you some of that penut oil stuff from advanced auto parts thats what I used it works good . WD40 is actually a cleaner not a lub.
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Satoshi Aug 18, 5:24am - #251204 
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