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Aug 15, 9:20pm - #250595 
Need help with choosing Headers.

What headers do you suggust I get? I have a 2000 GTS I have TRD exhaust and Injen Intake. I need some low end pwr.

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Aug 15, 9:53pm - #250596 
Trial

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Aug 15, 9:56pm - #250597 
trial to much money... DC headers is the way to go if ya dont want to spend that much money... makes ur car sound so nice!!! thumbsup


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Aug 15, 10:21pm - #250598 
Is it a deep or a high whine?

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Aug 15, 10:22pm - #250599 
the headers themself dont put off a sound... it made my engine a lot louder (and deeper) and made my exhaust sound a lil louder and deeper!!! i love it thumbsup


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Aug 15, 10:25pm - #250600 
nobody mentioned a price ceiling... I'd take Trial any day over DC

- the economical choice would definitely be DC though

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Aug 15, 10:30pm - #250601 
Originally Posted by Sultan
nobody mentioned a price ceiling... I'd take Trial any day over DC

- the economical choice would definitely be DC though


yes i agree


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Aug 15, 10:37pm - #250602 
WHy? Do you get more whp? Sorry for so many Q's just I don't want to get crap. I have a 600 budget.

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Aug 15, 10:40pm - #250603 
yes, trial will give you more whp but im not sure how much it costs... with 600 you could buy 2 sets of dc headers...

sultan will prolly post soon with the prive of trials...


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Aug 15, 10:41pm - #250604 
Alright guys, I have never paid any attention to threads concerning headers, since I never thought I would buy them, but now I'm actually considering getting them.

My pc is really fucked up right now. Something hijacked my browser so whenever I search (on any site) I get an error message and crash.

Can someone post a link to some dynos and prices for both of the headers? For the GTS obviously.

Thanks.


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Aug 15, 11:02pm - #250605 
stock - 153 112 tq
dc header - 163 119tq

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Aug 15, 11:03pm - #250606 
^^^
that was on a celica with no mods (bone stock) and after with the DC header...

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Aug 15, 11:04pm - #250607 
What about the Trial?

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Aug 15, 11:26pm - #250608 
DC Sports Header on Stock Celica...

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Aug 15, 11:31pm - #250609 
Dyno run on modded Celica...

-TRD exhaust
-CAI (AEM)
-TRD Japan Flywheel
-AEM alternator pulley
-Quaife LSD
-Grounding Wires
-Full synthetic Mobil 1 (5w30)
-94 octane gas

178.2 HP and 122.5 TQ

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Aug 15, 11:33pm - #250610 
...with the Trial gen3 Header:

184.6 HP (+6.4 HP) and 125.4 TQ (+2.9 TQ )


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Aug 15, 11:41pm - #250611 
...keep in mind that the more mods you add to a car, the less gain you can expect from any one mod. Hence, the stock celica had a 10 hp gain after installing the DC header while the modded celi only received 6.4 hp from the Trial gen3 header.

- unfortunately, I can't find a stock vs. Trial header dyno to compare against the stock vs DC header... but it still gives you some idea as to Performance gains


... imo, if you have the cash, get Trial. But if you want to maximize the amount of mods your money can buy - purchase the DC header. To some, the small Performance advantage and more recognized name of Trial is not worth the extra $300-400

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Aug 15, 11:44pm - #250612 
Thanks I do appriciate it.

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Aug 15, 11:49pm - #250613 
your welcome bro...

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Aug 16, 9:48am - #250614 
good info

I wasn't considering a header, but I went to summit racing and saw one and wanted it

what's the best price for dc headers and where can I get them?

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Aug 16, 9:51am - #250615 


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Aug 16, 3:53pm - #250616 
Yea,
Hop Up is a good place. I ordered my Intake from them and it took two days to get it. They have the best price for the stuff also.



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Aug 16, 4:43pm - #250617 
how much HP would a Trial header give on a GT?


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Aug 16, 5:32pm - #250618 
i think the trial header is a peace of shit, they want close to one G for a damn header, and the dynos show only 6 whp, while dc header is only 300 and shows 10, i went with the dc sport header, and i tell u, im glad i did, after you hit that 7k rpm bamm, there is such a bost, i cant discrive, dc all the way thumbsup

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Aug 16, 6:29pm - #250619 
^^^
actually, if one were to dyno a car with only the Trial header installed, it would produce gains at least equivalent to the DC if not slightly greater (my bet is on the latter)

... read my clarification post after the dynos I listed

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Aug 16, 7:37pm - #250620 
If money isn't an issue I would go Trial or TRD (I know) all the way over DC also. I have yet to see some conclusive proof on the DC header. Maybe because I was away for a bit and missed some great break through on the dynos. I don't know. But if money really wasn't an issue I would try to get a hold of that Brash Boy (or whatever they are calling themselves these days) header. The one for around $2400. I can't find a pic of it on their site, but hell if I had money to burn I would go into uncharted territories.

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Aug 16, 7:39pm - #250621 
Where are those dynos from the DC header coming from anyway? Just out of curiosity.

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Aug 16, 9:55pm - #250622 
Look above they are listed.

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Aug 16, 10:06pm - #250623 
DC Sports...for basic needs
Higher Performance...get Trial.

Its all about how much you want to pay. thumbsup


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Aug 17, 8:07am - #250624 
My wife got me DC sports header and AEM pullies for anniversary. the header is great need to get the pullies installed DC all the way thumbsup. Allways remember celi's are 4 cyclinder engines we have a header not headers thumbsup


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Aug 17, 8:08am - #250625 
Originally Posted by bmw52786


summit racing has them for 269 plus shipping, but then I've found them on ebay for 250 including shipping

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Aug 17, 8:29am - #250626 
how much does an install run for a "header" on the celica...dc, trial, brash boy, im sure it all costs about the same...im mechanically inclined but this seems like a job for a pro

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Aug 17, 8:32am - #250627 
oh and btw...i would probably go with dc..since its the most bang for the buck thumbsup

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