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Need help with choosing Headers. #250595 Aug 15, 8:20pm Aug 15, 8:20pm
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Need help with choosing Headers.
What headers do you suggust I get? I have a 2000 GTS I have TRD exhaust and Injen Intake. I need some low end pwr.

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250596 Aug 15, 8:53pm Aug 15, 8:53pm
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Trial

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250597 Aug 15, 8:56pm Aug 15, 8:56pm
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trial to much money... DC headers is the way to go if ya dont want to spend that much money... makes ur car sound so nice!!! thumbsup


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: bmw52786] #250598 Aug 15, 9:21pm Aug 15, 9:21pm
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Is it a deep or a high whine?

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250599 Aug 15, 9:22pm Aug 15, 9:22pm
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the headers themself dont put off a sound... it made my engine a lot louder (and deeper) and made my exhaust sound a lil louder and deeper!!! i love it thumbsup


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: bmw52786] #250600 Aug 15, 9:25pm Aug 15, 9:25pm
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nobody mentioned a price ceiling... I'd take Trial any day over DC

- the economical choice would definitely be DC though

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250601 Aug 15, 9:30pm Aug 15, 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by Sultan
nobody mentioned a price ceiling... I'd take Trial any day over DC

- the economical choice would definitely be DC though


yes i agree


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: bmw52786] #250602 Aug 15, 9:37pm Aug 15, 9:37pm
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WHy? Do you get more whp? Sorry for so many Q's just I don't want to get crap. I have a 600 budget.

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250603 Aug 15, 9:40pm Aug 15, 9:40pm
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yes, trial will give you more whp but im not sure how much it costs... with 600 you could buy 2 sets of dc headers...

sultan will prolly post soon with the prive of trials...


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250604 Aug 15, 9:41pm Aug 15, 9:41pm
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Alright guys, I have never paid any attention to threads concerning headers, since I never thought I would buy them, but now I'm actually considering getting them.

My pc is really fucked up right now. Something hijacked my browser so whenever I search (on any site) I get an error message and crash.

Can someone post a link to some dynos and prices for both of the headers? For the GTS obviously.

Thanks.


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: slidr] #250605 Aug 15, 10:02pm Aug 15, 10:02pm
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stock - 153 112 tq
dc header - 163 119tq

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250606 Aug 15, 10:03pm Aug 15, 10:03pm
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^^^
that was on a celica with no mods (bone stock) and after with the DC header...

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250607 Aug 15, 10:04pm Aug 15, 10:04pm
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What about the Trial?

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250608 Aug 15, 10:26pm Aug 15, 10:26pm
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DC Sports Header on Stock Celica...

1870178113-1and5-8pipe.jpg
Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250609 Aug 15, 10:31pm Aug 15, 10:31pm
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Dyno run on modded Celica...

-TRD exhaust
-CAI (AEM)
-TRD Japan Flywheel
-AEM alternator pulley
-Quaife LSD
-Grounding Wires
-Full synthetic Mobil 1 (5w30)
-94 octane gas

178.2 HP and 122.5 TQ

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250610 Aug 15, 10:33pm Aug 15, 10:33pm
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...with the Trial gen3 Header:

184.6 HP (+6.4 HP) and 125.4 TQ (+2.9 TQ )


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250611 Aug 15, 10:41pm Aug 15, 10:41pm
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...keep in mind that the more mods you add to a car, the less gain you can expect from any one mod. Hence, the stock celica had a 10 hp gain after installing the DC header while the modded celi only received 6.4 hp from the Trial gen3 header.

- unfortunately, I can't find a stock vs. Trial header dyno to compare against the stock vs DC header... but it still gives you some idea as to Performance gains


... imo, if you have the cash, get Trial. But if you want to maximize the amount of mods your money can buy - purchase the DC header. To some, the small Performance advantage and more recognized name of Trial is not worth the extra $300-400

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250612 Aug 15, 10:44pm Aug 15, 10:44pm
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Thanks I do appriciate it.

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250613 Aug 15, 10:49pm Aug 15, 10:49pm
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your welcome bro...

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250614 Aug 16, 8:48am Aug 16, 8:48am
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good info

I wasn't considering a header, but I went to summit racing and saw one and wanted it

what's the best price for dc headers and where can I get them?

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: beans] #250615 Aug 16, 8:51am Aug 16, 8:51am
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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: bmw52786] #250616 Aug 16, 2:53pm Aug 16, 2:53pm
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Yea,
Hop Up is a good place. I ordered my Intake from them and it took two days to get it. They have the best price for the stuff also.



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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250617 Aug 16, 3:43pm Aug 16, 3:43pm
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how much HP would a Trial header give on a GT?


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: 00celica00gt] #250618 Aug 16, 4:32pm Aug 16, 4:32pm
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i think the trial header is a peace of shit, they want close to one G for a damn header, and the dynos show only 6 whp, while dc header is only 300 and shows 10, i went with the dc sport header, and i tell u, im glad i did, after you hit that 7k rpm bamm, there is such a bost, i cant discrive, dc all the way thumbsup

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Clos] #250619 Aug 16, 5:29pm Aug 16, 5:29pm
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^^^
actually, if one were to dyno a car with only the Trial header installed, it would produce gains at least equivalent to the DC if not slightly greater (my bet is on the latter)

... read my clarification post after the dynos I listed

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sultan] #250620 Aug 16, 6:37pm Aug 16, 6:37pm
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If money isn't an issue I would go Trial or TRD (I know) all the way over DC also. I have yet to see some conclusive proof on the DC header. Maybe because I was away for a bit and missed some great break through on the dynos. I don't know. But if money really wasn't an issue I would try to get a hold of that Brash Boy (or whatever they are calling themselves these days) header. The one for around $2400. I can't find a pic of it on their site, but hell if I had money to burn I would go into uncharted territories.

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Where are those dynos from the DC header coming from anyway? Just out of curiosity.

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Look above they are listed.

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Especial187] #250623 Aug 16, 9:06pm Aug 16, 9:06pm
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DC Sports...for basic needs
Higher Performance...get Trial.

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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: Sancho] #250624 Aug 17, 7:07am Aug 17, 7:07am
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My wife got me DC sports header and AEM pullies for anniversary. the header is great need to get the pullies installed DC all the way thumbsup. Allways remember celi's are 4 cyclinder engines we have a header not headers thumbsup


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Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: bmw52786] #250625 Aug 17, 7:08am Aug 17, 7:08am
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Originally Posted by bmw52786


summit racing has them for 269 plus shipping, but then I've found them on ebay for 250 including shipping

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: beans] #250626 Aug 17, 7:29am Aug 17, 7:29am
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how much does an install run for a "header" on the celica...dc, trial, brash boy, im sure it all costs about the same...im mechanically inclined but this seems like a job for a pro

Re: Need help with choosing Headers. [Re: hector] #250627 Aug 17, 7:32am Aug 17, 7:32am
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oh and btw...i would probably go with dc..since its the most bang for the buck thumbsup

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