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Can a Celica be a respectable racer? #250463 Aug 15, 7:23pm Aug 15, 7:23pm
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Can a Celica be a respectable racer?
Hey all i just bought a used 2000 Silver 5spd Celica GT and i was wondering if it would be worth the money and all the time to try and mod my car to be a high end race car. I love to go down to the local track and drive my freinds supra but i really want to know if my celica could come even close to being a great racing car. No matter what i dont wanna sell my celica becuase i love the style and drive of it sooo much.
I would love to hear any suggestions on first mods to put onto my celica to bring it to the next level.
I already have exhaust and redid the whole audio system.
thanks for all your help,
Craig

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Kamara] #250464 Aug 15, 7:25pm Aug 15, 7:25pm

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well getting a GTS woulda helped in your chances.

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? #250465 Aug 15, 7:28pm Aug 15, 7:28pm
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It took me 2 months to find a Celica period so i didnt want to have to wait any longer becuase i wanted to get my hands on a Celica ASAP.
If push comes to shove i might even have end up selling my celica, any suggestions on what car to get. i got about 16000 to spend if i wanna get a new car and please nothing older then a 2000.
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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Kamara] #250466 Aug 15, 7:29pm Aug 15, 7:29pm
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It's possible. Anything is possible. It's just going to be expensive. What is your goal for track times? Sub-15? Sub-14?

You can probably run under 15 seconds with Intake, exhaust, header, and Power FC (ECU). To run under 14 seconds in a GT, you'll need to go forced induction. Good news is that the GT is easier to Turbo than the GTS, and SF actually makes a nice kit for it. thumbsup

Oh yeah... and reduce the weight as much as possible before hitting the track. If you have subs in back, pull them out. Ditch the spare tire. Go on 1/4 or 1/8 tank of gas. Remove the backseats if you're willing to go that far.

Anything is possible... but it takes time, money, and effort. thumbsup


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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: RevMonster] #250467 Aug 15, 8:06pm Aug 15, 8:06pm
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Screw drag racing. If you want to compete with decent cars and have much more yield in your race results, look into road racing and auto cross.

Do a little research for auto cross clubs in your area. Don't be afraid to attend a few of the events. It doesn't matter if your car is stock or not. They do have stock classes you can compete in. You do not have to have a single modification on your car to auto cross. A common myth is that people think they need mods to auto cross so they blindly mod their car and sometimes it can hurt your car's Performance. Once you know your car's limits, you can start modifying your car's suspension to increase the limits.
Good luck

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Steven] #250468 Aug 15, 8:10pm Aug 15, 8:10pm
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^^^ very true, Steven thumbsup

IMO, autox is FAR more fun too. Only reason I care about drag racing is that it's the only way to show crappy american cars on the street how much they suck. spineyes


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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: RevMonster] #250469 Aug 15, 8:55pm Aug 15, 8:55pm
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Yeah i just read up on AutoX and it sounds really fun.
Its all driver talent instead of the car. I would really love to try it out if it comes to Charlotte one day. thanks for all your help and i have full deiced that im keeping my celica which i was questing in my other post. (i was gonna get a 350Z) but i really like my celica and dont think i could leave it.

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Kamara] #250470 Aug 15, 9:23pm Aug 15, 9:23pm
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dont worry about having a GT celica...i have one too and so far its getting to that forced induction stage sometime in the future. but if youd like you can swap your GT engine for the GTS motor and bust in the 6 speed tranny for more driving pleasure. looks like your in the same boat as me...no way in hell im selling my celica gonna make it a respectable car...hahaha


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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Autocelica23] #250471 Aug 15, 9:26pm Aug 15, 9:26pm
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Drive it, enjoy it. thumbsup

Leave the drag strip to the guys running 6L+ blown motors.

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Kamara] #250472 Aug 15, 9:28pm Aug 15, 9:28pm
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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Steven] #250473 Aug 16, 6:43am Aug 16, 6:43am
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Originally Posted by Steven
Screw drag racing. If you want to compete with decent cars and have much more yield in your race results, look into road racing and auto cross.


^^^^^^Yeah bro, I use MY GT for track days at Road Atlanta (Road RAcing), and I have 11:1 internals, stronger valve, and valve springs, and I may be doing a cam job soon...THE GT is awesome FUN and they OWN on autocross courses...If you want to go really fast and have 16,000 to spend, then get your suspension done first, then go with lower compression internals (monkeywrenchracing.com)...new cams from catcams (SUPER AGRESSIVE,...JRPonline.com), an Apexi PFC from monkeywrenchracing, a TRD Japan CLutch, and a Turbo setup from stafford fabrications...your GT will be terrifically fast bro!!!!!

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: AZZKIKR] #250474 Aug 16, 9:00am Aug 16, 9:00am
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i say look for another car. celica is a decnet car, but to become a "high end race car," it's not worth it...

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: ragingpaseo] #250475 Aug 16, 9:28am Aug 16, 9:28am
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hell yea, gt or gts doesnt matter. i dont think its slow by no means and it looks awesome as shit doing it thumbsup

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: ragingpaseo] #250476 Aug 16, 9:29am Aug 16, 9:29am
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here's what azzkikr was talking about

turbo: http://www.staffordfabrication.com/modul...3a&menu=300

lower comp internals: http://monkeywrenchracing.com/toyota.html


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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: combatc87] #250477 Aug 16, 10:43am Aug 16, 10:43am
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^^^^ that's the beginnings of some monstrous power

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: AZZKIKR] #250478 Aug 16, 7:51pm Aug 16, 7:51pm
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Celica isn't a bad car...its potential is severely limited, given that it's FWD. If your budjet is around 16, try looking into a WRX. You'd hafta look very hard, or even increase your budjet slightly. Like the othres said, Celica handles well. Even then, someone in a respectable RWD would send you home also.


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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: jyboygenius] #250479 Aug 16, 7:55pm Aug 16, 7:55pm
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get rid of your audio

get some coilovers, swaybars, and front and rear strut tie bars and camber links.

get a Turbo kit, and a PFC, tune the Turbo.

get some volks or other forged lightweight wheels and slap some sticky tires on em.

get a roll cage.

about 14000 later your car is a race car.

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check c2power.com...his car is pushing around 300 hp with the new internals, and he is having his gearing in his tranny recast to make sure he can hold the torque when he turns his boost up even more!!! According to everyone that has his kind of setup (t3/t4 and new internals), the car is crazy fast

Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: AZZKIKR] #250481 Aug 17, 8:34am Aug 17, 8:34am
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I just cant see throwing that much money into a celica to make it 300 hp. Throw that amount of money into something different, and you'll be a lot better off.
The one exception is if you're doing all the work, so the only cost is parts. Im considering doing this when i get done with school, blueprinting and rebuilding the whole motor, but we will see.


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csheriff: if you love your celica you can put that kind of money into it. I've put a ton of money into mine, and I don't want another car dude...its a matter of preference

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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: AZZKIKR] #250484 Aug 17, 1:49pm Aug 17, 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by AZZKIKR
csheriff: if you love your celica you can put that kind of money into it. I've put a ton of money into mine, and I don't want another car dude...its a matter of preference
dont get me wrong, i love mine, and i have a shit ton of money in mine too, i wouldnt want to even guess how much. thats just my opinion, and i wouldnt want to throw that much at just the motor.
but like i said, if your doing it all yourself it would be a lot cheaper, which is what i will be doing.


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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: csheriff] #250486 Aug 17, 4:55pm Aug 17, 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by csheriff

I just cant see throwing that much money into a celica to make it 300 hp. Throw that amount of money into something different, and you'll be a lot better off.
The one exception is if you're doing all the work, so the only cost is parts. Im considering doing this when i get done with school, blueprinting and rebuilding the whole motor, but we will see.

Well it really depends on your style. I had a Supra before, but not like most of the ppl love that car, I didn t like it. So I bought my old celi. Then later this new one. But it was really weak, but I do liked the rest of it. So I decided to build it stron. Now all I can say I would not change it to any other car. The driving makes so much joy to me, and its still like a new toy every day. I couldn get bored still up today. It s like riding a big speeder Bike. So if I would have the option to start again I would.
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Re: Can a Celica be a respectable racer? [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #250487 Aug 17, 5:00pm Aug 17, 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Drive it, enjoy it. thumbsup

Leave the drag strip to the guys running 6L+ blown motors.


Words of wisdom! Its more fun in the twisties anyway. thumbsup

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autoXingrocks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh did i mention it rocks?!!!!
yeah you will have more fun with autoX in celica than drag.
Plus you will be faster than any other cars in its class.
Plus there are lots of mods to make your car handle like corvettes or better. Just think of it this way...AutoXing = Skills , Drag = money and car

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