Previous Thread
Next Thread
New Reply
Print Thread
Rate Thread
blitz s/c... #245651 Aug 10, 11:52pm Aug 10, 11:52pm
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
blitz s/c...
i'm just wondering why a lot of people don't have it..is it the price? or is it just bad product? i think it's pretty nice..240 hp..makes the engine look good too.


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: RyCeCuBe] #245652 Aug 11, 2:26am Aug 11, 2:26am
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 427
Calgary, AB, Canada
speed_celica
Senior Member
2000 Toyota Celica
speed_celica
Senior Member
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 427
Calgary, AB, Canada
Is that how much power it put out? Thought it was a little lower than that...

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: speed_celica] #245653 Aug 11, 3:28am Aug 11, 3:28am
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 87
California
2000 carbon blue Toyota Celica GT
loveannie
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT
loveannie
2000 carbon blue Toyota Celica GT
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 87
California
i think it too expensive!!!

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: loveannie] #245654 Aug 11, 3:49am Aug 11, 3:49am
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 583
palm springs, burbank CA
Jae
Senior Member
2001 Toyota Celica
Jae
Senior Member
2001 Toyota Celica

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 583
palm springs, burbank CA
i thought it was 25 hp to the wheels.
and its 240 when you boost the compression

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Jae] #245655 Aug 11, 4:12am Aug 11, 4:12am
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
i dunno..but this is where i got 240 from..
javascript:PopUp('popupimage.asp?img=SUPCHRG&cod=10126','_blank','scrollbars,resizable,width=400,height=400')
"IMPROVES POWER TO 240PS AND TORQUE TO 180NM"
what else could "ps" and "nm" mean? is that in japanese terms?


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: RyCeCuBe] #245656 Aug 11, 8:22am Aug 11, 8:22am
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,111
MA
GraSSRooTs
Specialist
2001 Toyota Celica
GraSSRooTs
Specialist
2001 Toyota Celica

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,111
MA
I think its about 60whp. For less money, you could build a custom Turbo that could add up to and sometimes over 100whp.


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: GraSSRooTs] #245657 Aug 11, 8:58am Aug 11, 8:58am
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
I
Illusive
Member
Illusive
I
Member

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
team mate of ours dynoed 215 to the wheels @ 8K rpms, with 160 wtq.

thats about what you can expect, and about what a 50 shot of n20 does.


Controlled Inertia
President
8.831 @ 79.8 mph (best 1/8 new motor 12/02/04)
2.007 (best 60')
All motor
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Illusive] #245658 Aug 11, 9:40am Aug 11, 9:40am
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 129
York PA
2004 Red Toyota Celica
Rexy13
Member
2004 Toyota Celica
Rexy13
2004 Red Toyota Celica
Member
2004 Toyota Celica

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 129
York PA
1PS = .9867(or something clsoe to that) HP

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Illusive] #245659 Aug 11, 9:51am Aug 11, 9:51am
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,242
Fontana, CA
Lucky_317
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Lucky_317
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,242
Fontana, CA
Originally Posted by Illusive
team mate of ours dynoed 215 to the wheels @ 8K rpms, with 160 wtq.

thats about what you can expect, and about what a 50 shot of n20 does.


^^ what he said. thumbsup

it is hella fun to drive though. grin


Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Lucky_317] #245660 Aug 11, 10:11am Aug 11, 10:11am
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 343
San Antonio, TX/Vancouver, WA
Death
Member
2002 Toyota Celica
Death
Member
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 343
San Antonio, TX/Vancouver, WA
once again you mis-informed people are opening your mouth. The supercharger, while not boasting as much top end power as a Turbocharger, makes power across the board.. watch a supercharged celi and Turbocharged celi drag race or circuit race and see who can get off the line and pull out of those turns quicker.


[Linked Image]
Airman First Class
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Death] #245661 Aug 11, 10:48am Aug 11, 10:48am
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 416
Richland, WA
GTS02
Senior Member
2002 Toyota Celica
GTS02
Senior Member
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 416
Richland, WA
not rady to pay thousands for one

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: GTS02] #245662 Aug 11, 10:51am Aug 11, 10:51am
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,669
MADERA, CA
2002 Super White Toyota Celica
ravertony
Specialist
2002 Toyota Celica
ravertony
2002 Super White Toyota Celica
Specialist
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,669
MADERA, CA
supercharger is slightly better for low end power (celicas weakness), but i think many people dont get this SC because of the return they get from payin so much.. too expensive for the HP output it gives

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: ravertony] #245663 Aug 11, 11:23am Aug 11, 11:23am
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,174
Frankfort, IL
combatc87
Specialist
2001 Toyota Celica GT
combatc87
Specialist
2001 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,174
Frankfort, IL
Turbos do offer more "bang for the buck", but most superchargesrs are simple bolt-ons that require little additional work, and there's that trade off between all around power and high-end power. I also think people get Turbos because they love to hear it whine up and then hear the blow-off valve (I know I do!).


-Combatc87- / -SgT._BiLkO-
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: combatc87] #245664 Aug 11, 11:35am Aug 11, 11:35am
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,669
MADERA, CA
2002 Super White Toyota Celica
ravertony
Specialist
2002 Toyota Celica
ravertony
2002 Super White Toyota Celica
Specialist
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,669
MADERA, CA
Originally Posted by combatc87
Turbos do offer more "bang for the buck", but most superchargesrs are simple bolt-ons that require little additional work, and there's that trade off between all around power and high-end power. I also think people get Turbos because they love to hear it whine up and then hear the blow-off valve (I know I do!).


well said.. thumbsup and consider that some Turbos can harm your engine in the long run

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: ravertony] #245665 Aug 11, 12:26pm Aug 11, 12:26pm
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,982
San Diego, CA
Zero
Furi Kuri
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Zero
Furi Kuri
2002 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,982
San Diego, CA
and so can superchargers.

dont S/C's make a whirring noise as well?


I've mastered the art of the After Image Technique.
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Zero] #245666 Aug 11, 12:33pm Aug 11, 12:33pm
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,129
Philadelphia, PA
Sultan
Speed Omen
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Sultan
Speed Omen
2002 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,129
Philadelphia, PA
^^^
point is - it's nothing compared to the sound of a Turbo... wink

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Illusive] #245667 Aug 11, 2:10pm Aug 11, 2:10pm
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
Originally Posted by Illusive
team mate of ours dynoed 215 to the wheels @ 8K rpms, with 160 wtq.

thats about what you can expect, and about what a 50 shot of n20 does.

so you are sayin 50 shot of nitrous is about equivalent to this blitz s/c? did your teamate dyno 215 hp with the s/c? or 50 shot?


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: RyCeCuBe] #245668 Aug 11, 2:12pm Aug 11, 2:12pm
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,129
Philadelphia, PA
Sultan
Speed Omen
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Sultan
Speed Omen
2002 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,129
Philadelphia, PA
^^^
sounds like he dyno'd @ 215 with the s/c...

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: RyCeCuBe] #245669 Aug 11, 2:35pm Aug 11, 2:35pm
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 343
San Antonio, TX/Vancouver, WA
Death
Member
2002 Toyota Celica
Death
Member
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 343
San Antonio, TX/Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted by RyCeCuBe
Originally Posted by Illusive
team mate of ours dynoed 215 to the wheels @ 8K rpms, with 160 wtq.

thats about what you can expect, and about what a 50 shot of n20 does.

so you are sayin 50 shot of nitrous is about equivalent to this blitz s/c? did your teamate dyno 215 hp with the s/c? or 50 shot?


OMG no, HP isn't about what your max power is. Horsepower don't work like that. A stock GTS has a Horsepower rating of 180.. that doesn't mean when you start it up and drive at 20mph in second gear that you've got 180 HP at the wheels.. 180 means that the engine will produce a maximum of 180hp at it's peak. The blitz supercharger will create about 50 more peak horsepower, but when your driving at 20mph in second gear and punch it you'll have more power across the powerband *almost* instantly. Unlike a Turbo, depending on the size, where it takes time to spool up. Take a look at a dyno chart and you'll see what I mean.


[Linked Image]
Airman First Class
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Death] #245670 Aug 11, 9:05pm Aug 11, 9:05pm
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 56
Minneapolis, MN
1990 Red Toyota Celica ST
Snafu
Member
1990 Toyota Celica ST
Snafu
1990 Red Toyota Celica ST
Member
1990 Toyota Celica ST

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 56
Minneapolis, MN
Since you get instant boost with a supercharger, your torque curve is very flat. You can get a very similar dyno chart if you use a properly sized Turbo. I do agree with Death, it's better to have more of a flat power band then a spike.


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Death] #245671 Aug 11, 11:11pm Aug 11, 11:11pm
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
Originally Posted by Death
Originally Posted by RyCeCuBe
Originally Posted by Illusive
team mate of ours dynoed 215 to the wheels @ 8K rpms, with 160 wtq.

thats about what you can expect, and about what a 50 shot of n20 does.

so you are sayin 50 shot of nitrous is about equivalent to this blitz s/c? did your teamate dyno 215 hp with the s/c? or 50 shot?


OMG no, HP isn't about what your max power is. Horsepower don't work like that. A stock GTS has a Horsepower rating of 180.. that doesn't mean when you start it up and drive at 20mph in second gear that you've got 180 HP at the wheels.. 180 means that the engine will produce a maximum of 180hp at it's peak. The blitz supercharger will create about 50 more peak horsepower, but when your driving at 20mph in second gear and punch it you'll have more power across the powerband *almost* instantly. Unlike a Turbo, depending on the size, where it takes time to spool up. Take a look at a dyno chart and you'll see what I mean.
ok uh.."OMG" i know how a s/c and Turbo n nitrous works n what it duz...my origional question was was poweroutput it gives to an engine at any point..has nothing to do with a Turbo celica and a s/c celica racing together...so why don't you post sumthin more useful.


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: RyCeCuBe] #245672 Aug 12, 1:33am Aug 12, 1:33am
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 563
Cali
VoodooGTS
Senior Member
2002 Toyota Celica
VoodooGTS
Senior Member
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 563
Cali
yes, its the price what makes the people not want to get the SC.


1/4 mile: 14.97 @ 91.16mph
Sponsors: |TekniqAuto|Corbeau|Rotora|Ignited|LegendMotorsport|JTAutostyles|
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: VoodooGTS] #245673 Aug 12, 7:54am Aug 12, 7:54am
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,672
towson, md
2003 blue Toyota Celica
ragingpaseo
Specialist
2003 Toyota Celica
ragingpaseo
2003 blue Toyota Celica
Specialist
2003 Toyota Celica

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,672
towson, md
from what i understand, it's like $6000 for parts + labor. and dyno at 193 whp...it's not a lot...

Re: blitz s/c... [Re: ragingpaseo] #245674 Aug 12, 8:55am Aug 12, 8:55am
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
I
Illusive
Member
Illusive
I
Member

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
anyone in here ever driven the blitz s/c for the gts?

I doubt it.

Personally having drag raced my team mates car for him, the system is very comparable to n20 except off boost response is pretty shoddy.

it is a clutch driven s/c, which means its not always on and is set to kick on at 90% throttle, which means it feels just like n20, once your in boost yes power is linear, just like n20, but the sudden rush of 40-50 whp and 30wtq makes it not very great for track/circut racing as you wouldn't be able to full throttle corner exits for fear of breaking the tires loose when that extra 50whp kicks on.

for this reason alone a Turbo'd gts would be a better choice and have more "linear" of a power band for track racing.

if a company can design a s/c system that is always on and not clutch driven (for example 03 cobras) then the s/c would be an optimum set up for circut racing for the instant throttle response.

my .02


Controlled Inertia
President
8.831 @ 79.8 mph (best 1/8 new motor 12/02/04)
2.007 (best 60')
All motor
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Illusive] #245675 Aug 12, 9:48am Aug 12, 9:48am
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 343
San Antonio, TX/Vancouver, WA
Death
Member
2002 Toyota Celica
Death
Member
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 343
San Antonio, TX/Vancouver, WA
There is a way to bypass the clutch, that dude over at NC had it.


[Linked Image]
Airman First Class
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Death] #245676 Aug 12, 11:08am Aug 12, 11:08am
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,242
Fontana, CA
Lucky_317
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Lucky_317
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,242
Fontana, CA
the S/C dyno graph and the nitrous graph looked very similar if I remember correctly.


Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Lucky_317] #245677 Aug 12, 12:17pm Aug 12, 12:17pm
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT
RyCeCuBe OP
Senior Member
01 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 584
LA 626 area
i have heard that superchargers are recommended for bigger engines.. just wondering wouldn't it be better for the gts since it already has crazy top end and (as most people say) poor low end torque??


[Linked Image]
Re: blitz s/c... [Re: Death] #245678 Aug 12, 12:48pm Aug 12, 12:48pm
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
I
Illusive
Member
Illusive
I
Member

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
Originally Posted by Death
There is a way to bypass the clutch, that dude over at NC had it.


he didn't bypass the clutch he tried a few different things,

he relocated the supercharger before the throttle body and found out it didn't work like he thought it would, so he moved it back,

he also installed a bypass valve to help with off boost throttle response since it sucks pretty badly.


If anyone has i'm imagining hotchkis has on their track celica because the blower looks like the same uinit


Controlled Inertia
President
8.831 @ 79.8 mph (best 1/8 new motor 12/02/04)
2.007 (best 60')
All motor
Join the conversation - Register Now or Log In to add your comment


Moderated by  isaac 

Member Spotlight
jtevo4gts02
jtevo4gts02
2002 Toyota Celica GT
San Antonio,Tx

Posts: 108
Joined: September 2003
Thanks: no one
Show All Member Profiles 
Recent Topics
APR strut bar brace for 2000 GTS
by TweakMaster. 10/15/2017 8:02 PM
Help with vacuum hose
by Chaos. 10/15/2017 6:07 PM
My 2000 GTS
by TweakMaster. 10/14/2017 6:29 PM
Replaced bad MAF. Now getting p0300/p1300 CEL codes. HELP!
by Bblee1989. 10/14/2017 4:34 PM
What kind of rim is this?
by mariahjordan. 10/10/2017 8:05 PM
Changed Headlight but so Dimm
by smsih. 10/10/2017 2:55 PM
Anyone know this remote unlock key? trying to ID it!
by kieronboz. 10/04/2017 2:36 AM
will C-one lip fit on TRD front bumper
by Mik3l. 09/30/2017 3:28 PM
Customize Your Toyota Celica Privacy Policy · About · Contact
Privacy Policy · About · Contact
CelicaHobby.com is an independent Toyota Celica enthusiast website. CelicaHobby.com is not sponsored by or affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. in any way. The Toyota and Celica names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
© CelicaHobby.com, 2001-2017
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Snapshot build 20171017)