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stroker with turbo #244795 Aug 9, 9:05pm Aug 9, 9:05pm
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stroker with turbo
ok i have a question im sure this has been asked like 1000 times but if i buy a 3zz stroker kit and get low comp pistions or keep the stock pistions and get an xs Turbo that will work fine right this guy is selling a sf kit is that better for what i want to do ????

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: ted18852103] #244796 Aug 9, 9:14pm Aug 9, 9:14pm
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Do they sell low compression pistons for the stroker kit?

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #244797 Aug 9, 9:16pm Aug 9, 9:16pm
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no but some compony makes them

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: ted18852103] #244798 Aug 10, 1:09pm Aug 10, 1:09pm
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wiesco makes em. the SF kit is much better then the XS kit.

and a 1.93L engine is way better for torque then a 1.8L engine smile


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Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Lucky_317] #244799 Aug 10, 2:42pm Aug 10, 2:42pm
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...make sure you understand what you're getting into with the 3zz

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Sultan] #244800 Aug 10, 2:43pm Aug 10, 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Sultan
...make sure you understand what you're getting into with the 3zz


For sure...


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Re: stroker with turbo [Re: RevMonster] #244801 Aug 11, 5:08am Aug 11, 5:08am
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yeah, the 3zz stroker is a lot of money, and is gonna be a little rough on your engine, even if you buy lower comp pistons...and especially if you go with the SF Turbo kit!!!! You'll probably need reinforced gears too, to make sure you can safely get the power to the wheels...not to mention that its gonna be a whole ton of cash

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: AZZKIKR] #244802 Aug 11, 6:12am Aug 11, 6:12am
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3zz stroker kit will work just fine with Turbo or S/C.
since it doesn't change the characteristc or the engine, everything stays as same except that you get more torque and hp.
In fact Trial has the supercharger on their 3zz celica. And i think they are the fastest celica out there as of now.

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Jae] #244803 Aug 11, 6:14am Aug 11, 6:14am
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are you sure???? 13.7:1 compression and boost...that engine would knock and detonate like a mother fu%%er wouldn't it...

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Jae] #244804 Aug 11, 8:57am Aug 11, 8:57am
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Originally Posted by Jae
In fact Trial has the supercharger on their 3zz celica. And i think they are the fastest celica out there as of now.


I dont think so. grin (I'm not talking bout my car either)

**I'm sure they lowered the compression instead of raising it.


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Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Lucky_317] #244805 Aug 11, 9:50am Aug 11, 9:50am
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yeah, some of the bigger Turbo boys are running really really strong...C2gas is having his tranny re-worked to be able to handle his monster engine...and he's opening his last 2 gears because he can ONLY hit 150 mph as his highest speed rolleyes rolleyes eek eek (he just gets there without any lack of accelerating eek eek...pulls all the way)

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: AZZKIKR] #244806 Aug 11, 11:55am Aug 11, 11:55am
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For all I know the stroker kit raises the compression.
The last thing you want when going Turbo is raise the compression

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Immo] #244807 Aug 11, 11:58am Aug 11, 11:58am
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nah, the stroker kit increases the stroke (or the length the piston travels in the cylinder)...not compression...compression has to do with pistons, and sealing of the engine

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: AZZKIKR] #244808 Aug 11, 12:00pm Aug 11, 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by AZZKIKR
yeah, some of the bigger Turbo boys are running really really strong...C2gas is having his tranny re-worked to be able to handle his monster engine...and he's opening his last 2 gears because he can ONLY hit 150 mph as his highest speed rolleyes rolleyes eek eek (he just gets there without any lack of accelerating eek eek...pulls all the way)



yeah - some of those vids he has up are sick... I can't wait to see what he does with that new tranny he's building - eek

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Sultan] #244809 Aug 11, 3:03pm Aug 11, 3:03pm
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so it will work just fine with the lower comp and a Turbo right

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: AZZKIKR] #244810 Aug 12, 12:38am Aug 12, 12:38am
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Originally Posted by AZZKIKR
nah, the stroker kit increases the stroke (or the length the piston travels in the cylinder)...not compression...compression has to do with pistons, and sealing of the engine


Ahum, when you change the stroke, the piston goes up further, and thus raising compression. raising compression means bigger chance on pre-detonation..
For Turbo you want low compression, not a stroker kit, maybe a bigbore kit

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Immo] #244811 Aug 12, 6:04am Aug 12, 6:04am
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IMMO my friend, yes, technically you are right thumbsup thumbsup, but if you purchase lower compression pistons, and a lower compression (and very thick) copper headgasket (from EIPtuning.com) you will lower the compression enough to safely run boost...

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: AZZKIKR] #244812 Aug 13, 12:21am Aug 13, 12:21am
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Good point smile
Yes, if you buy low compression pistons you should alright.
But get new crower rods too..

What I heard from the guys from C2power is that the EIP copper head gasket is not good for running high boost on a GTS, they burned it out in 30 minutes...
The stock gasket hold up better than the EIP one..

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Immo] #244813 Aug 13, 12:22am Aug 13, 12:22am
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Originally Posted by Immo
Good point smile
Yes, if you buy low compression pistons you should alright.
But get new crower rods too..

What I heard from the guys from C2power is that the EIP copper head gasket is not good for running high boost on a GTS, they burned it out in 30 minutes...
The stock gasket hold up better than the EIP one..


told ya AZZKIKR - wink

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Sultan] #244814 Aug 13, 12:23am Aug 13, 12:23am
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Originally Posted by Sultan

Originally Posted by Immo

Good point smile
Yes, if you buy low compression pistons you should alright.
But get new crower rods too..

What I heard from the guys from C2power is that the EIP copper head gasket is not good for running high boost on a GTS, they burned it out in 30 minutes...
The stock gasket hold up better than the EIP one..



told ya AZZKIKR - wink

Re: stroker with turbo [Re: Sultan] #244815 Sep 1, 2:08am Sep 1, 2:08am
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O rings, or multi layer metal gaskets for forced induction, we learned this on the hard way a long before 1zz and 2zz.


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