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dtoyogts62 Aug 9, 8:10pm - #244333 
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Injen Short Ram Vs. Injen CAI ?

i live in houston, tx where it rains often and we have our share of high water...
im leaning towards Short Ram but what do you guys think ?
Please share ur opinion
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ragingpaseo Aug 9, 8:14pm - #244334 
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both Intakes are not going to make your celica blow any doors off, so go with SRI. it's much easier to clean, along with the heat shield, more bling bling for the show...
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EuRoBoYGT Aug 9, 8:14pm - #244335 

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well if you get the CAI get the by pass valve and you wont have any problems

but if ur still woried get the sr

it's all up to you if ur really looking for power get the CAI if it's just for mostly looks and a little power get the SR thumbsup

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Zero Aug 9, 8:15pm - #244336 

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i'd go with the SRI. IMO its more easy to clean and it has a nice sound to it. thumbsup

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 8:20pm - #244337 
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Stock air box works awesome dude! thumbsup
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spaztikid Aug 9, 8:20pm - #244338 
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RookieGTS Aug 9, 8:23pm - #244339 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Stock air box works awesome dude! thumbsup


lol! some people just like to keep it simple w/ no fuss grin
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ct Aug 9, 8:24pm - #244340 

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AEM or TPR...Injen bogs down low with the CAI and you being in houston will not help with a heat soak prone Short Ram.

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stefanoc Aug 9, 8:30pm - #244341 

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weve talked about this enough, theres a sticky in custom mods forum. get tpr, its both a cold air and a Short Ram and has great gains if you care about Performance. if you just want the noise of the Intake with a bit power, get SR. or else get CAI if you really care about hp gains.
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Gen7fan Aug 9, 10:00pm - #244342 
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Stock air box works awesome dude! thumbsup


So True, SRI is pointless. Will give you no low end gain may even loose power. You get little back up top but thats only about 3hp, little more than a TRD drop in filter.
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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 10:18pm - #244343 
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3HP, no way ... maybe 1HP at the very most. But, you only get that at peak, in the bottom you probably loose 5HP. So over-all its a net loss, risk hydro lock, cost you money, BS to install, reset the ECU ... thumbsdown
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ct Aug 9, 10:34pm - #244344 

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people just throw numbers out without dyno proof...a Short Ram in a gts will garner at least 8whp peak!...but you lose just as much down low...
1870164467-sccrmmdyno.jpg

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VSGTS14 Aug 9, 10:49pm - #244345 

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go with shortram, i loved mine

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 10:57pm - #244346 
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That's not proof. That's not a third party objective dyno, its propeganda. The dyno's showing <1hp gain have been posted before. Also, the dyno isn't enough either, you have to know the setup of exhaust, headers & any other mods done before you can come to any conclusions.
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ct Aug 9, 11:01pm - #244347 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
That's not proof. That's not a third party objective dyno, its propeganda. The dyno's showing <1hp gain have been posted before. Also, the dyno isn't enough either, you have to know the setup of exhaust, headers & any other mods done before you can come to any conclusions.


why is it propaganda? it wasn't made by RMM. it's a magazine article that acutally dyno'd the Intake. further that 1 hp gain you mention is probably from a GT...not a GTS.

show me these dynos that show this 1hp gain...and i'll show you more SRI dynos showing you different numbers. again state the type of car...GT or GTS...it makes a difference

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dtoyogts62 Aug 9, 11:02pm - #244348 
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I have a 6 speed GTS

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:04pm - #244349 
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GTS, they are in previous posts. This whole thing has been discussed a million and a half times.
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ct Aug 9, 11:05pm - #244350 

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Originally Posted by dtoyogts62
I have a 6 speed GTS


well here is a dyno of a RMM with TRD exhaust
1870164528-rrrmtrd.jpg

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:05pm - #244351 
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Magazines are not third part & impartial. Half the shit in them is a lie. And that dyno is not Injen either.
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ct Aug 9, 11:08pm - #244352 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo

Magazines are not third part & impartial. Half the shit in them is a lie. And that dyno is not Injen either.


Are you suggesting sport compact magazine is not impartial? if they are not then why would they post negative comments about the Intake as well as positive comments as well.

all i keep reading is...lie lie lie...where are these dynos you speak of? personally all the dynos i have seen with a gts have met with at least 5whp.


plus for your information the rmm and Injen piping and coinfiguration are identical. right down the the mafs placing.

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ct Aug 9, 11:10pm - #244353 

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here is an Injen SRI with TRD exhuast which is the red line...the blue line is with added tuning with a s-afc
1870164545-injensri.jpg

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:21pm - #244354 
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I don't trust magazines, they make their money advertising & if they shit on a product they don't get their advertising dollars. Moreover, I think there are some out there that get paid to write articles about products that want exposure. thumbsdown
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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:22pm - #244355 
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What's this dyno?

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:26pm - #244356 
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Here's the Intake:
http://www.rodmillenstore.com/celica/intake.htm

It doesn't look any different than any other short horn.
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ct Aug 9, 11:28pm - #244357 

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/\/\/\that's a rmm with TRD exhaust...it's made 3 runs. it's not a stock vs mod overview...is this 3 runs made with the same mods. rofl

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:30pm - #244358 
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From their website. 154.1HP is very low for a stock rating.
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ct Aug 9, 11:34pm - #244359 

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actually 154 is about right...many gts' dyno around 155-160whp. lucky who runs 13.7 at the 1/4 dyno'd at 155whp stock thumbsup

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 9, 11:45pm - #244360 
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Search feature too slow ...
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SmutasticGT Aug 10, 1:49am - #244361 

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I love my Injen SRI, best thing iv put on my car thumbsup
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SCOTT03 Aug 10, 3:47am - #244362 
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i'm pretty sure with TPR you don't lose power down low cause it reads the correct amount of air unlike other aftermarket Intakes.

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grcelica Aug 10, 1:28pm - #244363 

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I like my Injen SRI. I never noticed any low-end loss, in fact it seems a LITTLE snappier. I have an auto GT tho...high end noticeably better tho. Sounds great, looks great in the engine bay too. I haven't regretted buying it. My opinion!
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ragingpaseo Aug 10, 4:04pm - #244364 
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
GTS, they are in previous posts. This whole thing has been discussed a million and a half times.

so is that mean you have wrong a million and a half times... rofl
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hkysk8r86 Aug 10, 4:06pm - #244365 

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Get a TPR, you can have an SRI and a CAI all in one!!! thumbsup
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dtoyogts62 Aug 10, 4:13pm - #244366 
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right now im really considering TPR after reading about it and im not in CA so i don't have to worry about CARB

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ct Aug 10, 4:14pm - #244367 

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then it's no issue...go for TPR! dyno proven plus there is no bogging. thumbsup

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hkysk8r86 Aug 10, 4:17pm - #244368 

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TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR TPR thumbsup
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dtoyogts62 Aug 10, 4:30pm - #244369 
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yeah its on back order...so i have to wait a little...
does the TPR sound similar to the other Intakes or is there a noticeable difference?

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hkysk8r86 Aug 10, 4:35pm - #244370 

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noticable difference = yes
sound = beautiful

all in all

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daman1799 Aug 10, 4:36pm - #244371 
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WOW!!! Another Intake thread cry Will the madness ever end?
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hkysk8r86 Aug 10, 4:43pm - #244372 

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Originally Posted by daman1799
WOW!!! Another Intake thread cry Will the madness ever end?


That's what i'm saying, won't people just use the "search" feature...??? i think Isaac should make the search button like half the size of the website so people can see it, either that or put an Intake and RIMS and EXHAUST buttons up there leading to all the threads on them... lol
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Easy_C Aug 11, 2:33pm - #244373 
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TPR will be stirring up exhaust threads starting in the next couple days wink...backorder on the Intakes should end very shortly! I redesigning the mounting system to be more user friendly and sturdier.

TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING!
TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
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