I'm doing my oil tomorrow and was wondering what the best oil filter is for our celica. I know I gotta use 5w30 oil, any recomendations as to whats best for the GTS? I know Isaac can help me out on this one.
^^The guy who asked the question is in MA, so in the winter he might want to use a 5w30, and while he's at it he should use a high quality 5w30 by RedLine which is far from "piss water" and lubricates better than a petroleum 10w40. Personally I use RedLine 10w30. Or he should use Royal Purple. I didn't even see you recommend a full-synthetic oil (RedLine only comes in full synthetic)!
Meaning less resistance, which translates into less wear on the engine.
If you push your car, 5w30 would be the way to go. 10w30 would not burn as much though if the seal on your pistons is worn, so it depends on how you drive your car, and how many miles you have on it.
Last edited by slidr; Aug 5, 2004 6:12pm.
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^^ Yes Castrol or Mobil 1 are not bad. 10w30 is more viscous than 5w30. Look up viscous in the dictionary. At high temps and high rpms especially in the GTS this visosity is more resistant to thinning and shearing which would cause abrasion and engine wear.
^^ Yes Castrol or Mobil 1 are not bad. 10w30 is more viscous than 5w30. Look up viscous in the dictionary. At high temps and high rpms especially in the GTS this visosity is more resistant to thinning and shearing which would cause abrasion and engine wear.
Yeah, but the oil may not get to essential parts in the engine at specific points, let's say, when lift engages. Toyota recommends 5w as opposed to 10 for this reason and more.
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why not just go for the injen or Blitz ones. they prolly dont make any diff then any other, but atleast they got the Expensive logo on em, lol...TRD would also pass as good, kuz you got a toyota im guessing.
^^ Yes Castrol or Mobil 1 are not bad. 10w30 is more viscous than 5w30. Look up viscous in the dictionary. At high temps and high rpms especially in the GTS this visosity is more resistant to thinning and shearing which would cause abrasion and engine wear.
Yeah, but the oil may not get to essential parts in the engine at specific points, let's say, when lift engages. Toyota recommends 5w as opposed to 10 for this reason and more.
Wrong Answer Buzzer goes: ONK!!!! (again) If you have sufficiently warmed up your engine you don't need to worry about oil "not getting" to certain points if the oil you are using will work at that ambient temperature when warm. Whatever viscosity you have always warm up your engine before driving it. If you were to look in your Celica manual, you will see that 5w30 is recommended for fuel economy, but 10w30 is an option on the temperature scale if the ambient temperatures of your area are not too cold. 5w30 is more fuel efficient because it is less viscous and causes less friction. That's ok for cruising. For racing some guys want extra protection: When things get hot and steamy and revolutions increase, some guys want an oil that still has great lubrication despite the action going on. Know what I mean?
just buy the regular toyota oil filter, it's 6 dollars at your dealer. You get no gain from anyother filter that will cost more.
WOW MAN PAYING EXTRA FOR MY OIL FILTER GAVE ME SOME IMPRESSIVE GAINS...haha oookay
hey jackass I don't want gains. I'm looking for an oil filter that is dependable and maybe lasts longer than stock. fucktard, obviously I don't get gains from it.
don't really mean to be harsh, just in a nasty mood
so what you guys are saying is if i live in a place where there are 2 different temp. throughout the year i should use both grade?? like starting in fall and thru winter i should be using 5w30 and from spring thru summer i should be using 10w30?? is that correct?? last question, how much does the K&N Gold filter cost?? i need a price so i can have an idea..
thanks much
EDIT: I live in Nebraska so the weather changes all the time..last on monday it was 110 and today it's only 80, changing is constant here..I'm currently using Mobil 1 5w30 full synthetic..so??
Last edited by celicafourotwo; Aug 6, 2004 11:24am.
^^ If your temps change from season to season, just stick with one grade the 5w30. Don't go back and forth. Just use high quality oil if you are running your engine (esp if you have a GTS) in 110 degrees F in the summer. RedLine's 5w30 which is full synthetic has 25% thicker oil films than a petroleum of comparable viscosity. I don't know your exact temps in the winter time in Nebraska, but I'll say that RedLine's 5w30 will be ok since it's pour point is -49 degrees F. Here is the definition of pour point:
"Pour point is 5 degrees F above the point at which a chilled oil shows no movement at the surface for 5 seconds when inclined. This measurement is especially important for oils used in the winter. A borderline pumping temperature is given by some manufacturers. This is the temperature at which the oil will pump and maintain adequate oil pressure. This was not given by a lot of the manufacturers, but seems to be about 20 degrees F above the pour point. The lower the pour point the better. Pour point is in degrees F."
It might interest you to know that RedLine's 10w30 is such high quality that its pour point -40 degrees F.
^^ Yes Castrol or Mobil 1 are not bad. 10w30 is more viscous than 5w30. Look up viscous in the dictionary. At high temps and high rpms especially in the GTS this visosity is more resistant to thinning and shearing which would cause abrasion and engine wear.
Yeah, but the oil may not get to essential parts in the engine at specific points, let's say, when lift engages. Toyota recommends 5w as opposed to 10 for this reason and more.
Wrong Answer Buzzer goes: ONK!!!! (again) If you have sufficiently warmed up your engine you don't need to worry about oil "not getting" to certain points if the oil you are using will work at that ambient temperature when warm. Whatever viscosity you have always warm up your engine before driving it. If you were to look in your Celica manual, you will see that 5w30 is recommended for fuel economy, but 10w30 is an option on the temperature scale if the ambient temperatures of your area are not too cold. 5w30 is more fuel efficient because it is less viscous and causes less friction. That's ok for cruising. For racing some guys want extra protection: When things get hot and steamy and revolutions increase, some guys want an oil that still has great lubrication despite the action going on. Know what I mean?
So hard to find people who no what there talking about, good post.
Of course you should take your model, driving style, and area in to account when you choose your oil. For me, Maryland, GT, Cruise and 80 to 90mph every day.
I recomend 10w30 to any one where it does not get like 10below and change your oil every 3k not 5k like toyota says if you want you engine to last over 150k. I'm going for 300k.
so what you guys are saying is if i live in a place where there are 2 different temp. throughout the year i should use both grade?? like starting in fall and thru winter i should be using 5w30 and from spring thru summer i should be using 10w30?? is that correct?? last question, how much does the K&N Gold filter cost?? i need a price so i can have an idea..
thanks much
EDIT: I live in Nebraska so the weather changes all the time..last on monday it was 110 and today it's only 80, changing is constant here..I'm currently using Mobil 1 5w30 full synthetic..so??
I know guys that do that. I use 10w30 year round but its never going to get 120 or 20 below in southern Maryland. Do your research and choose whats best for you.
This is one of the those subjects where you ask 10 different people your going to get 10 different answers ansd we all think where right.
^^good point..to each his own i guess..look like research for me..since the temp here in the winter are unpredictable..one day might be 20degree the next is below 0..harsh weather..that's y i asked..i rather stick to one grade rather then switching back and forth..thanks for the comment..
Actually considering how cold it can get in Nebraska, I'd recommend Amsoil 5w30 as a good Performance oil in extreme cold temps. Its pour point is -76 degrees Fahrenheit, which means that it's safe to use down to about -56 degrees Fahrenheit. I still wouldn't drive if it gets that cold though. Get a sled dog or reindeer or something. If you do drive, definitely don't get on the gas.
just buy the regular toyota oil filter, it's 6 dollars at your dealer. You get no gain from anyother filter that will cost more.
WOW MAN PAYING EXTRA FOR MY OIL FILTER GAVE ME SOME IMPRESSIVE GAINS...haha oookay
hey jackass I don't want gains. I'm looking for an oil filter that is dependable and maybe lasts longer than stock. fucktard, obviously I don't get gains from it.
don't really mean to be harsh, just in a nasty mood
Then why are you wasting time with a post such as this: "What is the best oil filter." Oil filters are oil filters, all the same, different label...
Actually considering how cold it can get in Nebraska, I'd recommend Amsoil 5w30 as a good Performance oil in extreme cold temps. Its pour point is -76 degrees Fahrenheit, which means that it's safe to use down to about -56 degrees Fahrenheit. I still wouldn't drive if it gets that cold though. Get a sled dog or reindeer or something. If you do drive, definitely don't get on the gas.
Amsoil? never heard of that b4 or seen it ever b4..
ok, what oil setup would you reccommend for me, I drive an auto 2000 gt, and i live in tampa florida now, what filter and oil would be good for my car w/ no engine wear and tear?
TRD is made by K&N, the K&N flows more and has anti-drain back to prevent dry starts, Toyota's stock one does not.
5w30 is not "piss water" it's actually better than 10w30 in the very cold climates, because it coagulates less at lower temps.
BTW, "not getting gains" from an oil filter is rice, don't be a fool always buy the best maintenance you can for your car
Just pointing out to polykarb not everything is the same. I like to make sure everything I put in my car as far as engine internals goes is the best I can find. If you're content with believing it's all the same and it doesn't matter that's fine, but that doesn't work for me. Ask any good mechanic if all oil filters are the same, see what they tell you, then come back and call me an idiot if you want.
also, Thanks Jameson for the info, I'll get a K&N or TRD.
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