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NorwayGT Aug 1, 7:59pm - #237934 

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500 dollars...next performance mod?

ok, in 2 weeks i will have 500 dollars that i can spend on my car. im mostly interested in 1/4 mile racing. right now i have...

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APR front strut tower bar

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my best time right now is 15.41 @ 89.30mph. what mod would be best for me to do next you think? im thinking 15 inch rota subzero's (12lb rims). my friend who got light weight rims said that he could tell the difference over his stock rims. i would be able to mount the tires that i currently have on my stock rims ( potenza G 009 205/60/15), then eventually get some real sticky tires. do you guy's think these rims would make any difference to my 1/4 mile times?, or do you think that i should spend my money on something else? please dont say nitrous, because i dont want that.

btw, my goal is to run 14's without much more of anything done.

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nebraskaGTS Aug 1, 8:05pm - #237935 

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new rims/tires is always a good idea, i was gonna say n2o, but then i read you didn't want that. a lighter fly wheel is never a bad idea either, but i think you are right going with rims/tires thumbsup
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stefanoc Aug 1, 8:05pm - #237936 

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u gotta start just like you listed. CAI before anything. probably the best money per hp and plus that sick noise it makes. its 200, so you can save the rest and then buy an exhaust and then headers.
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NorwayGT Aug 1, 8:09pm - #237937 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
u gotta start just like you listed. cai before anything. probably the best money per hp and plus that sick noise it makes. its 200, so you can save the rest and then buy an exhaust and then headers.

i think your confuesd...that is my current mod list, i already have Intake, header, and exhaust. i listed what i had just so people would know

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stefanoc Aug 1, 8:15pm - #237938 

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oops. then flywheel/clutch.
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NorwayGT Aug 1, 8:17pm - #237939 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
oops. then flywheel/clutch.

ill do that when my clutch dies, but its a good suggestion

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cycocelica Aug 1, 8:19pm - #237940 

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wheels sound like your best bet man...other than flywheel/clutch
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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 8:22pm - #237941 
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damn, hard choice, go with the rims, lighten your wheel weight, will help with speeds!! That will take off ten pounds per wheel for a total of 40 pounds, or get carbon fiber Hood!!

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Haulin_A_Doo Aug 1, 8:24pm - #237942 
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How do you get a decent set up rims with tires for $500?
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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 8:24pm - #237943 
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hes keeping the same tires!!

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stefanoc Aug 1, 8:26pm - #237944 

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1. clutch/flywheel
2. better tires, light rims(nothing bigger than 16" probably)
3. pulley/short shifter
4. gutt ur interior out. i know better octane fuel for a gts gives gains, but does it do the same to a gt?
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NorwayGT Aug 1, 8:30pm - #237945 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
How do you get a decent set up rims with tires for $500?

i know of someone in VA selling a set of 15 x 6.5 rota's for under 300, and i know of a site that sells new rota subzero's for 440 shipped

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blackcel Aug 1, 8:55pm - #237946 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
1. clutch/flywheel
2. better tires, light rims(nothing bigger than 16" probably)
3. pulley/short shifter
4. gutt ur interior out. i know better octane fuel for a gts gives gains, but does it do the same to a gt?

That would def be the best way to go imo. I cant really think of anything else, except for nitrous but you said you didnt want that. If you do enough guttin of the interior and i know that you are the driver you should be runnin 14's.
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csheriff Aug 1, 8:55pm - #237947 
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ive been wondering why no one has looked into Weld wheels. they sell them on like summit and jegs, weigh 6 lbs, and they come in 15's with our bolt pattern. ugly but who cares??????

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NorwayGT Aug 1, 8:56pm - #237948 

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Originally Posted by csheriff
ive been wondering why no one has looked into Weld wheels. they sell them on like summit and jegs, weigh 6 lbs, and they come in 15's with our bolt pattern. ugly but who cares??????

how much are they?

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NorwayGT Aug 1, 8:57pm - #237949 

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ive been looking at the GReddy E-Manage. http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/mwr_greddy_e_manage_package_toyota_1zz_fe_na_preprogrammed.html says that they got 6hp from a stock 1zz, and that i can expect more if i alredy have basic bolt on's.

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EuRoBoYGT Aug 1, 9:44pm - #237950 

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yeah i was going to say the greddy e-manage and you can get it programed to the parts you have

if not that then second choices would be a flywheel

then the rims

and what website sells them for that cheap

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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 9:59pm - #237951 
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Originally Posted by csheriff
ive been wondering why no one has looked into Weld wheels. they sell them on like summit and jegs, weigh 6 lbs, and they come in 15's with our bolt pattern. ugly but who cares??????


that is true, if all you really want is speed, just go with those!!

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Snafu Aug 1, 10:27pm - #237952 
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
i know better octane fuel for a gts gives gains, but does it do the same to a gt?


Don't make me go on about octane, but higher octane never "gives" you any horsepower. If your car is ment for a certain octane use it, you'll only create more carbon build.

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hkysk8r86 Aug 1, 11:08pm - #237953 

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NorwayGT Aug 2, 2:54am - #237954 

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Originally Posted by EuRoBoYGT
yeah i was going to say the greddy e-manage and you can get it programed to the parts you have

if not that then second choices would be a flywheel

then the rims

and what website sells them for that cheap

http://www.jaydm.com/subzero.htm

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cycocelica Aug 2, 2:57am - #237955 

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Originally Posted by EuRoBoYGT
yeah i was going to say the greddy e-manage and you can get it programed to the parts you have

if not that then second choices would be a flywheel

then the rims

and what website sells them for that cheap


totally forgot about the e-manage...i would do that
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AZZKIKR Aug 2, 6:25pm - #237956 

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no emanage...go with the wheels, or get a race battery...to help lose some weight...other than that I would say flywheel all the damn way
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AZZKIKR Aug 2, 6:30pm - #237957 

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the emanage is around $500 and the apexi PFC for the GT is $1,000, and you can manipulate the VVT on our cars with it...email matt @ MWR about the Apexi PFC for the 1zz for more info...I already deleted the email
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QTRMLR_1 Aug 2, 8:30pm - #237958 

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you're going to have $500? Ok, time to spend it on an Evo RS payment! You'd agree yourself that modification would make you faster than anything you can do to your celica, right?

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You can spend the money on a flywheel, but you'll have to drop the transmission yourself as the labor will cost you. Rims would probably be your best bet as Rota Slipstreams or Subzeros are lightweight for the price. You have the stock rims now, right?...so you'll definitely feel the difference as you probably know those stock GT's weigh about 22 lbs. The e-manage if bought through MWR does come "pretuned" but that doesn't mean much since it's all relative values anyway as it's a piggyback system. You'll have to have it dyno-tuned professionally to your car to maximize the gains, unless you can do that yourself. But if you did, you'd still have to pay for dyno hookup time. The install might also be a factor on the e-manage if you aren't comfortable with electrical wiring and diagrams. You should also have a laptop computer for any fuel/ignition computer you get, although it's not absolutely necessary if you just want a shop to tune it for you once. But that approach is not cost-effective as you could have spent that money on a cheap used laptop which is all you need for this application. So in your case, I'd say rims.

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