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TheDean Aug 1, 1:00am - #237534 

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2000 GTS or 2002 GT?

Looking into buying a Celica soon after the school year starts and I was wondering what one would work best with a Turbo. I will not be doing the upgrade for a year or so but want to make sure I buy the right car now! Thanks for the help in advance!
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MptGlw69 Aug 1, 1:01am - #237535 
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GT's are better for Turbo.
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CeLlYgT04 Aug 1, 1:04am - #237536 

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TheDean Aug 1, 1:07am - #237537 

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What makes them better?
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MptGlw69 Aug 1, 1:10am - #237538 
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I'm pretty sure it's because it has lower compression.
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cycocelica Aug 1, 1:20am - #237539 

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Originally Posted by MptGlw69
GT's are better for Turbo.
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QTRMLR_1 Aug 1, 1:38am - #237540 

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BTW, I talked to someone who KNOWS...and it is possible to land in lift on a GTS with Turbo. So figure out which one would be faster. I don't care if GT's have lower compression, b/c you can lower the compression of the GTS with different pistons. One person on this board claims his friend made 236 whp at 5 psi on a GTS, and has the dyno up. Try that on a GT with 5 psi. I'm not saying impossible, but just go ahead and try it.

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CaddyShack Aug 1, 3:33am - #237541 

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depends on ur budget really, because fittin a Turbo into the gts takes a lot of time and tuning... bloodredgt saw a guy at the track that was rich and was still tuning after he ran a couple of 14s... gts is pretty hard unless you have the money and/or you kno wtf ur doing... go wit da gt but stay easy on the Turbos because everyday driving can hurt it... goodluck thumbsup

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Speed4TheNeed Aug 1, 5:22am - #237542 

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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
BTW, I talked to someone who KNOWS...and it is possible to land in lift on a GTS with Turbo. So figure out which one would be faster. I don't care if GT's have lower compression, b/c you can lower the compression of the GTS with different pistons. One person on this board claims his friend made 236 whp at 5 psi on a GTS, and has the dyno up. Try that on a GT with 5 psi. I'm not saying impossible, but just go ahead and try it.


word. one thing that is VERY misleading on these boards. a celica GT makes better GAINS with a Turbo (lets say 50 whp, just for an example) because it has a lower compression. however, let's say the GTS makes 40 whp with a Turbo.

now, while the GT is clearly making a better gain than the GTS (50 to 40) but then keep in mind that the GTS already has 40 more Bhp (lets say thats 35 whp if you want to go by the average 10% loss of bhp in the celica gts). your STILL going to have more power in the gts. so instead of the diffence of 50 to 40 by a Turbo, it's more like 50 to 75 in this particular example.

figure in hitting lift in a gts 6-spd and your times are MUCH better with a gts thumbsup
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QTRMLR_1 Aug 1, 7:20pm - #237543 

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^^ Speed4TheNeed, haha, I still can't figure out when you're agreeing with me or disagreeing or just misunderstanding me..and I know, one time I misunderstood you. You quoted me but isn't it obvious which side I'm on? Maybe it's a regional langauge difference or something???

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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 7:33pm - #237544 
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The GT has a longer Stroke and Lower Compression, also a pretty decent size bore, the GTS has shorter stroke, higher compression, okay bore, the thing is, yeah the gt might get 50 and the gts might 40, but the gts still has more, but your forgetting one thing, the gt is ALOT torquier, and will have more tq, at less psi then the gts is still had more tq, so go figure. Gt is eaiser to customize, to make the GTS equal to the Gt, youd have to get a stroker kit, bore kit, and lower compression, all you have to do to the GT is lower compression, also, it comes stock with all these things, remember, cylinder sleeves to bore it out, arent always trustworthy, especailly with the already thin cylinder walls that the celis have!!
I'd say go with the GT, you'll have better gains, that higher cam lobe wont last a long time with the pressure of boost, GTs can handle 10-11 psi, easily, it be rsiky to go more than 8 for a gts even that is too high for daily driving!!!

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RookieGTS Aug 1, 7:37pm - #237545 

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i would go with 2000 GTS! 6spd! there fun! and there pretty quick for stock if driven correclty thumbsup
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CaLiGTS Aug 1, 7:39pm - #237546 

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GTS thumbsup

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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 7:43pm - #237547 
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The only thing i like better for the GT is the Euro GT tranny, 6 speed baby, and it had a final gear of .725 i think, same as the american GTS,but is has better 1-5 ratio gears!!!! Helps to get you up to a faster speed!!!

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paperheart Aug 1, 8:29pm - #237548 
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I don't even know why this topic is being debated. Get the GTS.

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RookieGTS Aug 1, 8:31pm - #237549 

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Originally Posted by paperheart
I don't even know why this topic is being debated. Get the GTS.


thaaaaaank you ! thats a definate answer! thumbsup
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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 8:33pm - #237550 
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Ok lets really settle this and leave it as is!!::

GT = Turbo

GTS = N/A & Stock

Hows that!!

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CaLiGTS Aug 1, 8:33pm - #237551 

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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
Originally Posted by paperheart
I don't even know why this topic is being debated. Get the GTS.


thaaaaaank you ! thats a definate answer! thumbsup


GTS is the only way to go! thumbsup

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qbanprepster21 Aug 1, 9:43pm - #237552 
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Its gonna be that way, all GT owners will say, GT is the way to go, and all GTS owners will say that GTS is the way to go, so its all how you look at it!!

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silverceli21 Aug 2, 4:09am - #237553 

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RevMonster Aug 2, 7:56am - #237554 

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If you are serious about getting a Turbo, get a 02 GT. It's going to be far cheaper.

However, lets look at this another way.

You say it's going to be a year or so before you do the mod. That makes the car you'd be modding 5 years old for the GTS, 3 years old for the GT. Then I'm assuming you're going to keep it for a couple years. You'd then be driving around either a 7 or 5 year-old car with HEAVY mods that require a ton of maintenance. Really, that's just not practical, unless you intend to throw a ton of money toward this project. I'm not trying to come off as snobby... but if you can only afford a 2000 GTS, you're going to have a hard time affording this mod.

I say get a 00-02 six speed GTS, go with Intake/headers/exhaust and add the Power FC. It's going to be much more practical in the long run.

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mrrovy805 Sep 14, 10:11pm - #237555 

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gts.

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booyaolian Sep 14, 10:23pm - #237556 
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2002 GT.

more economical.
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My Sixth Gear Sep 14, 11:09pm - #237558 
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GTS you can Turbo it too check out c2gas's stage 2 kit comes with lots of goodies

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ravertony Sep 15, 7:33am - #237559 
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as long as its a celica, hehe

GT or GTS rofl
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kevin2 Sep 15, 2:07pm - #237560 
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you can Turbo the GT if you have money...at least 4grand??? but in the end, GTS still have better brake, leather seat, ABS, premium sound, etc. and I don't know why people say gt are better thumbsdown that's like comparing dial-up(gt) to road runner(gts) grin grin The reality of it is...not too many people Turbo their gt like they said they would smile

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qbanprepster21 Sep 15, 3:09pm - #237561 
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Originally Posted by kevin
you can Turbo the GT if you have money...at least 4grand??? but in the end, GTS still have better brake, leather seat, ABS, premium sound, etc. and I don't know why people say gt are better thumbsdown that's like comparing dial-up(gt) to road runner(gts) grin grin The reality of it is...not too many people Turbo their gt like they said they would smile


yeah, and it would cost the same amount to Turbo the gts as well, the only thing that the gts wil have better is better brakes, only because it has front and rear disc brakes, abs sucks for our cars, depending on what your driving for, ie, autox, drag..premium sound; it aint a lot better, and leather seat, which is heavy, so your trying to say that the gts is so much better, uhhhhh, better check your reasonings again and give some better reasons if your gonna argue like that!! thumbsup

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CID498 Sep 15, 4:19pm - #237562 

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Originally Posted by kevin
you can Turbo the GT if you have money...at least 4grand??? but in the end, GTS still have better brake, leather seat, ABS, premium sound, etc. and I don't know why people say gt are better thumbsdown that's like comparing dial-up(gt) to road runner(gts) grin grin



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slidr Sep 15, 5:00pm - #237563 

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Originally Posted by cycocelica
Originally Posted by MptGlw69
GT's are better for Turbo.
But it still isn't going to be as fast as a Turboed GTS.

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kevin2 Sep 15, 8:59pm - #237564 
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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
Originally Posted by kevin
you can Turbo the GT if you have money...at least 4grand??? but in the end, GTS still have better brake, leather seat, ABS, premium sound, etc. and I don't know why people say gt are better thumbsdown that's like comparing dial-up(gt) to road runner(gts) grin grin The reality of it is...not too many people Turbo their gt like they said they would smile


yeah, and it would cost the same amount to Turbo the gts as well, the only thing that the gts wil have better is better brakes, only because it has front and rear disc brakes, abs sucks for our cars, depending on what your driving for, ie, autox, drag..premium sound; it aint a lot better, and leather seat, which is heavy, so your trying to say that the gts is so much better, uhhhhh, better check your reasonings again and give some better reasons if your gonna argue like that!! thumbsup


so you're saying the GT is better???

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xvtxboi508x Sep 15, 9:02pm - #237565 

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gts! Turbo or without Turbo is still possible and better when changed pistons
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iggy Sep 16, 2:58am - #237566 
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GT's are Great and so are GTS's, I drove both GT's cost less for insurance and GTS's are faster stock. But I say go with the best price and condition of the car.

I got an all but fully load GTS a few weeks back brand new for under invoice. So for me it was nice to have the faster stock car for the same price as a GT.

I drove a 2002 GT and it drives nice, the 5 speed does seem to be very clean, the six, not sure I like it yet. Maybe it's just me.

But I have what I have and I will get used to it.

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ChiNeyBwoy Sep 16, 5:04pm - #237567 

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GTS no question
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