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LIft Bolts #233544 Jul 27, 12:16am Jul 27, 12:16am
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i've heard a lot of people talk about lift bolts going out, just wondering what exactly they are, and how you know when they need replaced.

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easiest way to explain is that the lift bolts function after 6000rpm. they basically give you "lift", thats why we call them lift bolts. actual part is not called lift bolts. after 6000rpm, ur Intake and exhaust manifold open up completely which gives you the boost, and these lift bolts wear out from excessive revving, or just from time. wear and tear item. very easy to replace. they have redesigned bolts that are on the 02- engines, but they still wear out after a while. if ur bolts wear out or break, you will nomore feel lift, or ull loose power on the powerband. for more info, search for lift bolts. its been discussed alot

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yeah, i understand how lift works and all, i'm just wondering about the bolts themselves, as in location and how i know they need replaced. i was just wondering b/c lift doesn't seem as strong as it used to. not sure if i'm getting used to it, or what. searching isn't working either b/c the phrase has been used so much it pops up everywhere, sorry! grin

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yeah, you have an '00 so i'd definately replace them. i just did mine within the last couple of weeks and i notice a significant difference thumbsup

as far as lift bolt locations..they both can be found in this pic:

1870134352-liftboltlocation.jpg
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if your still not sure where exactly they are in relation to the above pic, here's a zoomed-out view (notice the timing chain in the above pic to orient yourself--the lift bolts are both to the left of the engine head)

1870134355-2.jpg
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the lift bolt design was changed in '03 (and up models). it was designed so that the bolt receives less stress than the old bolts and therefore wears significantly less.

a GREAT install guide can be found here (along with the tsb and lift bolt part #s)

http://www.teamcelica.com/tech/installs/liftbolts/

i bought my lift bolts from my local toyota dealer for 49 cents apiece...their not very expensive at all.

here's a pic of an old lift bolt and the redesigned lift bolt...your lift bolt (since you have an '00) looks like the 'flat' one and the new lift bolt is the 'pointy' one.

hope this has helped thumbsup

1870134356-liftbolts.jpg
Re: LIft Bolts [Re: nebraskaGTS] #233550 Jul 27, 8:05am Jul 27, 8:05am
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hey, thanks a lot for the help, you were actually the one i was hoping was going to respond to this b/c i always heard you talking about replacing them. exactly what was i looking for. thanks man thumbsup

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thanks, i needed that info too. not like i needed to do it now, just for my future reference...

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Since I am taking my car in for inspection regarding the Belt Tensioner and Drive Belt under the 100K. Can I ask them to check my lift bolt and have it replaced if needs be?

Also, does the timing chain wear out?


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IMO, the lift bolts are covered for the first 36,000 miles. im not sure about it though. you can DIY, its really easy. btw, they wont know wut you talkin about if you say lift bolts, their actually called flange bolts. timing chain does wear out, but it takes longer than 100k miles for it to be changed

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thanks guys i needed this info! thumbsup


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so r you sayin that i should install the 03-04 lift (flange) bolts in my 01 if i need to replace them???


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Originally Posted by stefanoc
IMO, the lift bolts are covered for the first 36,000 miles. im not sure about it though. you can DIY, its really easy. btw, they wont know wut you talkin about if you say lift bolts, their actually called flange bolts. timing chain does wear out, but it takes longer than 100k miles for it to be changed


since there is a TSB (technical service bulletin) on the lift bolts..the original manufactuerer's warranty of 60,000 miles is applicable thumbsup

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Originally Posted by bmw52786
so r you sayin that i should install the 03-04 lift (flange) bolts in my 01 if i need to replace them???


definately. yours are most likely pretty worn (depending on your mileage and how often you hit lift) thumbsup

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thanks man, ill prolly go by the dealership today and get them


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Originally Posted by Chelica815
Since I am taking my car in for inspection regarding the Belt Tensioner and Drive Belt under the 100K. Can I ask them to check my lift bolt and have it replaced if needs be?

Also, does the timing chain wear out?


the timing chain is almost never changed in a car's lifetime unless there is a problem with it...i honestly wouldn't worry about it as long as everything is kept well oiled.

and yes, you can get your dealer to do it for you..as i said since it's a TSB it's covered under warranty for 60,000 miles (if you bought a certified used car with a manufacturer's extended warrany to 100,000 miles is NOT applicable--only 60,000 miles applies for TSB's).

so, if your car is still under 60,000 then you can get them to do it--if it's not i would just do it myself. it really wasn't hard at all. just go to your toyota dealer and ask for the part # mentioned in the link i posted above for the lift bolts thumbsup

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what if i have the 36,000 mile warrenty, im guessing that wont apply correct? haha (im at just over 40,000 now)


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Originally Posted by nebraskaGTS
hey, thanks a lot for the help, you were actually the one i was hoping was going to respond to this b/c i always heard you talking about replacing them. exactly what was i looking for. thanks man thumbsup


no prob, judd thumbsup

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Originally Posted by bmw52786
what if i have the 36,000 mile warrenty, im guessing that wont apply correct? haha


lol well if your under 36,000 miles then it will. i thought all toyotas came with a 60,000 miles powertrain warranty confused

i need to read back up on warranties i guess lol

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lol im pretty sure the warrenty i got was 36,000...

one more question, this TSB thing says its for the gts, i have a gt so does any of this info change for me??


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So I just go there and tell them,

"I need to get my lift bolt changed with the newer ones. My car has 53K on it so it is still covered under the 60K warranty"?


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so does my gt have flange bolts??? what controls lift then if i dont have them?


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Originally Posted by bmw52786
so does my gt have flange bolts??? what controls lift then if i dont have them?


gt=1zz=vvti=variable valve time with inteligence
gts=2zz=vvtli=variable valve time with lift and inteligence

so no, your gt does not have lift, therefore it does not have flange bolts thumbsup

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^^ ditto. if you have a gt this doesnt even apply to you (which is fortunate) thumbsup

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hmmmm so what is "lift" called in my car, cause i have a pause in my acceleration when accelerating fast that i didnt used to have... what do i have to do to imporve this???


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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
^^ ditto. if you have a gt this doesnt even apply to you (which is fortunate) thumbsup


not really fortunate cause now i have no idea how to improve this, if i had a gts all i would need is new flange blots but no i have no idea what to do!


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you can tighten your throttle cable...VERY easy to do.

check out the installs section thumbsup

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^^ here's the link:

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f_57274_0_collapsed_2__1.html

the pictures used in that guide make it difficult to orient yourself as to where the throttle cable actually is (unless you already know where it is beforehand). anyway, pop your Hood and your throttle cable will be near the middle and to the very front of your engine bay--easy to find, even easier to tighten. thumbsup

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thanks thumbsup


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no prob, shoot me a pm afterwards and let me know if that was the problem or not--a lot of the time it is.

just make sure you don't tighten it too much..if you tighten it all the way your car will idle at 3000 rpms or something like that lol.

your car's factory idel should be at 750 rpms..i tightened mine to 1,000 rpms and i love it--not too high but tight enough to give me the quicker response i value thumbsup

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oh, and get your car warmed up b4 you start tightening/lossening the throttle cable.

my car will idle at a higher rpm when the engine is cold or just barely warm...so wait until its warm so you can get a more accurate reading of what your car will actually idle at

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I wonder why nobody searches lol the install guide link is your friend. not to mention theres at least 20 lift bolt threads posted this year or more where pics were posted and things were explained. lol


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HAHAHA

I have 59,333 and i just called and made an appointment for tomorrow morning to get my liftbolts changed on my 2000 gts rofl rofl rofl


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^^ haha lucky you.

when i went i had 62,000 miles on my odo and they wouldn't touch it unless i forked over some $$ thumbsdown

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very informative thanks for starting this thread NeBRaska! thumbsup


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BY the way, they are call "FLANGE BOLTS" not the term "LIFT BOLTS" we been using..tell them it's Flange Bolts or else they won't know what the f*ck you talking about..that happen to me awhile back when i went to buy them..the guy was like, "what kind of bolt?" "where is it located at" "what's it for?" all that bs..they don't know Lift, but they do know "FLANGE" so use it.. thumbsup


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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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The powertrain warranty is to 60K/6yr

If you got a Toyota extended warranty, you are covered until 100K on the powertrain, lift bolts included (they are internally lubricated parts)


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^^^actually it's 60k/5yrs for powertrain.. thumbsup


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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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you can't tighten your throttle cable on an 03 GTS right

becase its not drive by wire...

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
The powertrain warranty is to 60K/6yr

If you got a Toyota extended warranty, you are covered until 100K on the powertrain, lift bolts included (they are internally lubricated parts)


no, they're not included if you have the 100k extended warranty...its because there is a TSB on the lift bolts. TSB's are only under warranty for the original warranty (60k in this case) thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Larry_GTS
you can't tighten your throttle cable on an 03 GTS right

becase its not drive by wire...


i don't know..it supposed to be drive by wire i think...thats what toyota says anyway. i drive an '00

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