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Sultan Jul 26, 12:36am - #232109 

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Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions?

I'd like to reinforce my internals... Below is a list of things I'll be purchasing soon:


- Crower Billet Connecting Rods
- MWR Toyota 1ZZ-FE Big Bore Kit (8.8:1)
- MWR Valves
- MWR Valve Springs
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Cylinder Head
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Exhaust Manifold
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Mains
- Power Enterprise 165 LPH Fuel Pump
- Power Enterprise 550cc Fuel Injectors
- Apexi Power FC


Please advise if you see any redundancies or I'm missing anything...

(the Turbo will be running at around 6-8 psi and putting out a conservative 215 hp)
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 26, 1:33am - #232110 
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Compression is a little high, but its way better than stock. Don't fool yourself, if you intercool it, set up the ECU, run a wastegate computer, headers, highflow cat, blow off valve & all the other goodies ... you will be pushing A LOT MORE than 215hp.

With the stroker & the right components is not impossible to be seing numbers in the 400's.
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ikin Jul 26, 1:37am - #232111 
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cry ur stealing my plan j/k! ur getting everything im getting except im getting high compression, hope everyhting turns out well! thumbsup
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Sultan Jul 26, 2:34am - #232112 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Compression is a little high, but its way better than stock. Don't fool yourself, if you intercool it, set up the ECU, run a wastegate computer, headers, highflow cat, blow off valve & all the other goodies ... you will be pushing A LOT MORE than 215hp.

With the stroker & the right components is not impossible to be seing numbers in the 400's.


I think 215hp @ 6 psi is a good estimate. Bumping up to 12 psi would be sick though and is the main reason for the upgraded internals... I'd expect 250+ easy
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hkysk8r86 Jul 26, 3:37am - #232113 

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sounds awesome sultan, can't wait to see it! thumbsup
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Virgilson Jul 26, 3:43am - #232114 

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good luck with your Turbo, representing the Auto GTs!!! thumbsup
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hkysk8r86 Jul 26, 3:48am - #232115 

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Originally Posted by Virgilson
good luck with your Turbo, representing the Auto GTs!!! thumbsup

Fo Sho!
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kenny_celi Jul 26, 3:57am - #232116 

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I think you can bore it up and boost it up passed 300 hp BUT anything beyond that...it will get harder. When I build engine, I think about how far I want to carry it out...

In Japan, 350 hp is considered WALL because components in the engine start to fail past 350hp.

From your list, 550 cc injector is little too big for 215 hp. 450cc injector would be enough.

165 LPH Fuel Pump is little too small for the Turbo I think. Mine used to run 270 hp and my fuel pump was 255 LPH.

Im currently on my mission to make my engine into 500hp... I'll keep you guys posted too.
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Sultan Jul 26, 4:38am - #232117 

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smaller injectors and a larger fuel pump -> noted
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Jtultra Jul 26, 4:54am - #232118 

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keep in mind, out tranny's are shit and you might want to look into a stronger one for the increased torque

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SaddY Jul 26, 4:57am - #232119 
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Is it me or is everybody forgetting that the Power PFC is only for GTS? maybe I missed something :S
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Sultan Jul 26, 5:01am - #232120 

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^^^
it's just you - the Power FC can be used for the GT/MR2 1ZZ as well...
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SaddY Jul 26, 5:04am - #232121 
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Then forget I ever said anything wink
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Sultan Jul 26, 5:46am - #232122 

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I'm also considering the following transmission upgrades:

- tranny cooler
- torque converter
- valve body upgrade


After that I think my engine will be pretty much bulletproof and able to handle whatever psi levels I throw at it - within reason of course - happywink
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xXMaGNuSXx Jul 26, 6:22am - #232123 
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get LSD to plant all that power where it belongs.
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loveannie Jul 26, 9:41am - #232124 
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can't wait to see..i planning to put sf Turbo in my celica gt auto when i have money!!!
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qbanprepster21 Jul 26, 9:49am - #232125 
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For a good tranny upgrade, go with C2Gas's tranny!!

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kenny_celi Jul 26, 9:50am - #232126 

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oil cooler for more efficient and longavity of your engine(^_^)

good for Turbo too. you may want new header to let the Turbo spool up freer too. Turbo timer..

And About your compression... 8.8 maybe little too high... I would say 8 to be on the safe side... but computer can do little flexibility.
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Sultan Jul 26, 9:54am - #232127 

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^^^
good to know...

- yeah bro, I didn't mention the gauges. Of course I'll have egt and boost as well as oil pressure/temp
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VSGTS14 Jul 26, 2:54pm - #232128 

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those injectors are def too big for 215 hp

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ikin Jul 26, 3:44pm - #232129 
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for ur tranny go here


www.hipporacing.com
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Sultan Jul 26, 7:22pm - #232130 

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^^^
I'll probably stick with Level10 and MWR...
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spaztikid Jul 26, 7:29pm - #232131 
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with that setup you should be good for a constant 12 psi... and 18 on occasion.
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khmer215 Jul 26, 8:02pm - #232132 

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how much are you planning to spend on Turbo preps?? this is good to know for pplz who might want to do the same thing you are doing.

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kenny_celi Jul 26, 10:36pm - #232133 

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Tell me how much hp you are looking for. I will choose you the best fuel pump and injector sizes and other things that you will have to use to achieve that horsepower. I got celica GTs coming in for some internal work so I will check everything out...

Knowing what kind of hp you want to achieve helps a lot since right now, it's at planning stage and you can modify the specs without losing tonz of money. I also may have extra injectors lying around too...
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ikin Jul 26, 10:51pm - #232134 
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Sultan Jul 27, 3:17am - #232135 

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Originally Posted by kenny_celi
Tell me how much hp you are looking for. I will choose you the best fuel pump and injector sizes and other things that you will have to use to achieve that horsepower. I got celica GTs coming in for some internal work so I will check everything out...

Knowing what kind of hp you want to achieve helps a lot since right now, it's at planning stage and you can modify the specs without losing tonz of money. I also may have extra injectors lying around too...


minimum of 250hp - max of 300hp... after that the tranny may develop problems so I don't want to push it much farther. I appreciate your advice on any parts I may need for that config - wave
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oas Jul 27, 4:18am - #232136 
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are you talking whp? 300 sound a little mutch for a fwd
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ikin Jul 27, 5:16am - #232137 
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AZZKIKR Jul 27, 1:23pm - #232138 

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Originally Posted by Sultan
^^^
I'll probably stick with Level10 and MWR...
...

I can vouch for level 10 transmissions...they can build your tranny to withstand just about anything you want to throw at it
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 27, 4:33pm - #232139 

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Originally Posted by ikin
for ur tranny go here


www.hipporacing.com


thanks, ikin, I like that tranny! and I found other goodies too on that site.

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GTSVST Jul 27, 4:47pm - #232140 
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So how much is all this costing you? I think its gonna be sweet when you get this all done, but Im sure it's setting you back a few bucks.
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Sultan Jul 27, 7:11pm - #232141 

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^^^
2-3 K just for the internals and another grand for tranny upgrades plus a few hundred more for the necessary gauges - spineyes

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damn you got so big plans...a torque converter sounds nice thumbsup
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silver Jul 27, 11:41pm - #232143 
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Good tires and an LSD.

Torque+FWD=:thumbsdow

You're going to be losing traction a lot and you will need a way to counter the torque steer (it can usually be dissapated by working with the suspension and the LSD). Good luck.
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Sultan Jul 28, 2:53am - #232144 

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^^^
I'm planning on either a Kaaz LSD or helical-type...
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sickcelica696 Jul 28, 3:07am - #232145 
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The next most important upgrade is big brakes and suspension. Its all worthless unless you can stop that power. Thats what my old neighbor said about his lambo, the first thing he did was get some big ass brakes
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Sultan Jul 28, 6:41pm - #232146 

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I think I'm ok on brakes and suspension... just modded each of them recently
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