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Jul 25, 5:36pm - #232109 
Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions?

I'd like to reinforce my internals... Below is a list of things I'll be purchasing soon:


- Crower Billet Connecting Rods
- MWR Toyota 1ZZ-FE Big Bore Kit (8.8:1)
- MWR Valves
- MWR Valve Springs
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Cylinder Head
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Exhaust Manifold
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Mains
- Power Enterprise 165 LPH Fuel Pump
- Power Enterprise 550cc Fuel Injectors
- Apexi Power FC


Please advise if you see any redundancies or I'm missing anything...

(the Turbo will be running at around 6-8 psi and putting out a conservative 215 hp)

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Jul 25, 6:33pm - #232110 
Compression is a little high, but its way better than stock. Don't fool yourself, if you intercool it, set up the ECU, run a wastegate computer, headers, highflow cat, blow off valve & all the other goodies ... you will be pushing A LOT MORE than 215hp.

With the stroker & the right components is not impossible to be seing numbers in the 400's.

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Jul 25, 6:37pm - #232111 
cry ur stealing my plan j/k! ur getting everything im getting except im getting high compression, hope everyhting turns out well! thumbsup

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Jul 25, 7:34pm - #232112 
Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Compression is a little high, but its way better than stock. Don't fool yourself, if you intercool it, set up the ECU, run a wastegate computer, headers, highflow cat, blow off valve & all the other goodies ... you will be pushing A LOT MORE than 215hp.

With the stroker & the right components is not impossible to be seing numbers in the 400's.


I think 215hp @ 6 psi is a good estimate. Bumping up to 12 psi would be sick though and is the main reason for the upgraded internals... I'd expect 250+ easy

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Jul 25, 8:37pm - #232113 
sounds awesome sultan, can't wait to see it! thumbsup

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Jul 25, 8:43pm - #232114 
good luck with your Turbo, representing the Auto GTs!!! thumbsup

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Jul 25, 8:48pm - #232115 
Originally Posted by Virgilson
good luck with your Turbo, representing the Auto GTs!!! thumbsup

Fo Sho!

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Jul 25, 8:57pm - #232116 
I think you can bore it up and boost it up passed 300 hp BUT anything beyond that...it will get harder. When I build engine, I think about how far I want to carry it out...

In Japan, 350 hp is considered WALL because components in the engine start to fail past 350hp.

From your list, 550 cc injector is little too big for 215 hp. 450cc injector would be enough.

165 LPH Fuel Pump is little too small for the Turbo I think. Mine used to run 270 hp and my fuel pump was 255 LPH.

Im currently on my mission to make my engine into 500hp... I'll keep you guys posted too.

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Jul 25, 9:38pm - #232117 
smaller injectors and a larger fuel pump -> noted

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Jul 25, 9:54pm - #232118 
keep in mind, out tranny's are shit and you might want to look into a stronger one for the increased torque


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Jul 25, 9:57pm - #232119 
Is it me or is everybody forgetting that the Power PFC is only for GTS? maybe I missed something :S

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Jul 25, 10:01pm - #232120 
^^^
it's just you - the Power FC can be used for the GT/MR2 1ZZ as well...

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Jul 25, 10:04pm - #232121 
Then forget I ever said anything wink

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Jul 25, 10:46pm - #232122 
I'm also considering the following transmission upgrades:

- tranny cooler
- torque converter
- valve body upgrade


After that I think my engine will be pretty much bulletproof and able to handle whatever psi levels I throw at it - within reason of course - happywink

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Jul 25, 11:22pm - #232123 
get LSD to plant all that power where it belongs.

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Jul 26, 2:41am - #232124 
can't wait to see..i planning to put sf Turbo in my celica gt auto when i have money!!!

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Jul 26, 2:49am - #232125 
For a good tranny upgrade, go with C2Gas's tranny!!


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Jul 26, 2:50am - #232126 
oil cooler for more efficient and longavity of your engine(^_^)

good for Turbo too. you may want new header to let the Turbo spool up freer too. Turbo timer..

And About your compression... 8.8 maybe little too high... I would say 8 to be on the safe side... but computer can do little flexibility.

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Jul 26, 2:54am - #232127 
^^^
good to know...

- yeah bro, I didn't mention the gauges. Of course I'll have egt and boost as well as oil pressure/temp

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Jul 26, 7:54am - #232128 
those injectors are def too big for 215 hp


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Jul 26, 8:44am - #232129 
for ur tranny go here


www.hipporacing.com

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Jul 26, 12:22pm - #232130 
^^^
I'll probably stick with Level10 and MWR...

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Jul 26, 12:29pm - #232131 
with that setup you should be good for a constant 12 psi... and 18 on occasion.

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Jul 26, 1:02pm - #232132 
how much are you planning to spend on Turbo preps?? this is good to know for pplz who might want to do the same thing you are doing.


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Jul 26, 3:36pm - #232133 
Tell me how much hp you are looking for. I will choose you the best fuel pump and injector sizes and other things that you will have to use to achieve that horsepower. I got celica GTs coming in for some internal work so I will check everything out...

Knowing what kind of hp you want to achieve helps a lot since right now, it's at planning stage and you can modify the specs without losing tonz of money. I also may have extra injectors lying around too...

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Jul 26, 3:51pm - #232134 
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Jul 26, 8:17pm - #232135 
Originally Posted by kenny_celi
Tell me how much hp you are looking for. I will choose you the best fuel pump and injector sizes and other things that you will have to use to achieve that horsepower. I got celica GTs coming in for some internal work so I will check everything out...

Knowing what kind of hp you want to achieve helps a lot since right now, it's at planning stage and you can modify the specs without losing tonz of money. I also may have extra injectors lying around too...


minimum of 250hp - max of 300hp... after that the tranny may develop problems so I don't want to push it much farther. I appreciate your advice on any parts I may need for that config - wave

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Jul 26, 9:18pm - #232136 
are you talking whp? 300 sound a little mutch for a fwd

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Jul 26, 10:16pm - #232137 
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Jul 27, 6:23am - #232138 
Originally Posted by Sultan
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I'll probably stick with Level10 and MWR...
...

I can vouch for level 10 transmissions...they can build your tranny to withstand just about anything you want to throw at it

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Jul 27, 9:33am - #232139 
Originally Posted by ikin
for ur tranny go here


www.hipporacing.com


thanks, ikin, I like that tranny! and I found other goodies too on that site.


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Jul 27, 9:47am - #232140 
So how much is all this costing you? I think its gonna be sweet when you get this all done, but Im sure it's setting you back a few bucks.

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Jul 27, 12:11pm - #232141 
^^^
2-3 K just for the internals and another grand for tranny upgrades plus a few hundred more for the necessary gauges - spineyes


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Jul 27, 1:32pm - #232142 
damn you got so big plans...a torque converter sounds nice thumbsup

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Jul 27, 4:41pm - #232143 
Good tires and an LSD.

Torque+FWD=:thumbsdow

You're going to be losing traction a lot and you will need a way to counter the torque steer (it can usually be dissapated by working with the suspension and the LSD). Good luck.

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Jul 27, 7:53pm - #232144 
^^^
I'm planning on either a Kaaz LSD or helical-type...

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Jul 27, 8:07pm - #232145 
The next most important upgrade is big brakes and suspension. Its all worthless unless you can stop that power. Thats what my old neighbor said about his lambo, the first thing he did was get some big ass brakes

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Jul 28, 11:41am - #232146 
I think I'm ok on brakes and suspension... just modded each of them recently

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