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Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? #232109 Jul 25, 5:36pm Jul 25, 5:36pm
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Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions?
I'd like to reinforce my internals... Below is a list of things I'll be purchasing soon:


- Crower Billet Connecting Rods
- MWR Toyota 1ZZ-FE Big Bore Kit (8.8:1)
- MWR Valves
- MWR Valve Springs
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Cylinder Head
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Exhaust Manifold
- MWR ARP Stud Kit - Mains
- Power Enterprise 165 LPH Fuel Pump
- Power Enterprise 550cc Fuel Injectors
- Apexi Power FC


Please advise if you see any redundancies or I'm missing anything...

(the Turbo will be running at around 6-8 psi and putting out a conservative 215 hp)

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232110 Jul 25, 6:33pm Jul 25, 6:33pm
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Compression is a little high, but its way better than stock. Don't fool yourself, if you intercool it, set up the ECU, run a wastegate computer, headers, highflow cat, blow off valve & all the other goodies ... you will be pushing A LOT MORE than 215hp.

With the stroker & the right components is not impossible to be seing numbers in the 400's.

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #232111 Jul 25, 6:37pm Jul 25, 6:37pm
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cry ur stealing my plan j/k! ur getting everything im getting except im getting high compression, hope everyhting turns out well! thumbsup

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #232112 Jul 25, 7:34pm Jul 25, 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Compression is a little high, but its way better than stock. Don't fool yourself, if you intercool it, set up the ECU, run a wastegate computer, headers, highflow cat, blow off valve & all the other goodies ... you will be pushing A LOT MORE than 215hp.

With the stroker & the right components is not impossible to be seing numbers in the 400's.


I think 215hp @ 6 psi is a good estimate. Bumping up to 12 psi would be sick though and is the main reason for the upgraded internals... I'd expect 250+ easy

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232113 Jul 25, 8:37pm Jul 25, 8:37pm
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sounds awesome sultan, can't wait to see it! thumbsup

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: hkysk8r86] #232114 Jul 25, 8:43pm Jul 25, 8:43pm
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good luck with your Turbo, representing the Auto GTs!!! thumbsup

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Virgilson] #232115 Jul 25, 8:48pm Jul 25, 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by Virgilson
good luck with your Turbo, representing the Auto GTs!!! thumbsup

Fo Sho!

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: hkysk8r86] #232116 Jul 25, 8:57pm Jul 25, 8:57pm
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I think you can bore it up and boost it up passed 300 hp BUT anything beyond that...it will get harder. When I build engine, I think about how far I want to carry it out...

In Japan, 350 hp is considered WALL because components in the engine start to fail past 350hp.

From your list, 550 cc injector is little too big for 215 hp. 450cc injector would be enough.

165 LPH Fuel Pump is little too small for the Turbo I think. Mine used to run 270 hp and my fuel pump was 255 LPH.

Im currently on my mission to make my engine into 500hp... I'll keep you guys posted too.

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: kenny_celi] #232117 Jul 25, 9:38pm Jul 25, 9:38pm
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smaller injectors and a larger fuel pump -> noted

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232118 Jul 25, 9:54pm Jul 25, 9:54pm
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keep in mind, out tranny's are shit and you might want to look into a stronger one for the increased torque


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Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Jtultra] #232119 Jul 25, 9:57pm Jul 25, 9:57pm
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Is it me or is everybody forgetting that the Power PFC is only for GTS? maybe I missed something :S

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: SaddY] #232120 Jul 25, 10:01pm Jul 25, 10:01pm
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it's just you - the Power FC can be used for the GT/MR2 1ZZ as well...

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232121 Jul 25, 10:04pm Jul 25, 10:04pm
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Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: SaddY] #232122 Jul 25, 10:46pm Jul 25, 10:46pm
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I'm also considering the following transmission upgrades:

- tranny cooler
- torque converter
- valve body upgrade


After that I think my engine will be pretty much bulletproof and able to handle whatever psi levels I throw at it - within reason of course - happywink

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232123 Jul 25, 11:22pm Jul 25, 11:22pm
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get LSD to plant all that power where it belongs.

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: xXMaGNuSXx] #232124 Jul 26, 2:41am Jul 26, 2:41am
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can't wait to see..i planning to put sf Turbo in my celica gt auto when i have money!!!

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: loveannie] #232125 Jul 26, 2:49am Jul 26, 2:49am
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For a good tranny upgrade, go with C2Gas's tranny!!


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Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: loveannie] #232126 Jul 26, 2:50am Jul 26, 2:50am
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oil cooler for more efficient and longavity of your engine(^_^)

good for Turbo too. you may want new header to let the Turbo spool up freer too. Turbo timer..

And About your compression... 8.8 maybe little too high... I would say 8 to be on the safe side... but computer can do little flexibility.

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good to know...

- yeah bro, I didn't mention the gauges. Of course I'll have egt and boost as well as oil pressure/temp

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232128 Jul 26, 7:54am Jul 26, 7:54am
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those injectors are def too big for 215 hp


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Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: VSGTS14] #232129 Jul 26, 8:44am Jul 26, 8:44am
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for ur tranny go here


www.hipporacing.com

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I'll probably stick with Level10 and MWR...

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232131 Jul 26, 12:29pm Jul 26, 12:29pm
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with that setup you should be good for a constant 12 psi... and 18 on occasion.

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: spaztikid] #232132 Jul 26, 1:02pm Jul 26, 1:02pm
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how much are you planning to spend on Turbo preps?? this is good to know for pplz who might want to do the same thing you are doing.


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Tell me how much hp you are looking for. I will choose you the best fuel pump and injector sizes and other things that you will have to use to achieve that horsepower. I got celica GTs coming in for some internal work so I will check everything out...

Knowing what kind of hp you want to achieve helps a lot since right now, it's at planning stage and you can modify the specs without losing tonz of money. I also may have extra injectors lying around too...

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Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: kenny_celi] #232135 Jul 26, 8:17pm Jul 26, 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by kenny_celi
Tell me how much hp you are looking for. I will choose you the best fuel pump and injector sizes and other things that you will have to use to achieve that horsepower. I got celica GTs coming in for some internal work so I will check everything out...

Knowing what kind of hp you want to achieve helps a lot since right now, it's at planning stage and you can modify the specs without losing tonz of money. I also may have extra injectors lying around too...


minimum of 250hp - max of 300hp... after that the tranny may develop problems so I don't want to push it much farther. I appreciate your advice on any parts I may need for that config - wave

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232136 Jul 26, 9:18pm Jul 26, 9:18pm
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are you talking whp? 300 sound a little mutch for a fwd

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Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232138 Jul 27, 6:23am Jul 27, 6:23am
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Originally Posted by Sultan
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I'll probably stick with Level10 and MWR...
...

I can vouch for level 10 transmissions...they can build your tranny to withstand just about anything you want to throw at it

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Originally Posted by ikin
for ur tranny go here


www.hipporacing.com


thanks, ikin, I like that tranny! and I found other goodies too on that site.


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So how much is all this costing you? I think its gonna be sweet when you get this all done, but Im sure it's setting you back a few bucks.

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damn you got so big plans...a torque converter sounds nice thumbsup

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Good tires and an LSD.

Torque+FWD=:thumbsdow

You're going to be losing traction a lot and you will need a way to counter the torque steer (it can usually be dissapated by working with the suspension and the LSD). Good luck.

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I'm planning on either a Kaaz LSD or helical-type...

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: Sultan] #232145 Jul 27, 8:07pm Jul 27, 8:07pm
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The next most important upgrade is big brakes and suspension. Its all worthless unless you can stop that power. Thats what my old neighbor said about his lambo, the first thing he did was get some big ass brakes

Re: Building up my Engine for Turbo... Opinions? [Re: sickcelica696] #232146 Jul 28, 11:41am Jul 28, 11:41am
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I think I'm ok on brakes and suspension... just modded each of them recently

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