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Chico Jul 23, 6:29am - #229841 

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Short Shifter Question

what are the different on short shifter between TRD, B&M, and TWM??
Which one will actually shorten the throws??
why does the TRD comes with a plastic mounting and the other two are bare shifters???
Which one is the shortest?
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Chelica815 Jul 23, 6:35am - #229842 
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From what I have read, TWM is the shortest out of them all. Supposedly, with the design on the TWM, you cannot go any shorter than it.

The TRD is the tallest out of those 3 mentioned.

I myself just ordered the TWM after reading reviews and etc. Also, out of those 3, TWM is the least expensive and the shortest.

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GTSbyTRD Jul 23, 7:16am - #229843 

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where did you order your TWM from?

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spaztikid Jul 23, 7:24am - #229844 
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i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...
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Chelica815 Jul 23, 7:25am - #229845 
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Got it from Invision Auto Imports. They are having a group buy for like $115 shipped. Great deal IMO.

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oas Jul 23, 7:56am - #229846 
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i fhink TRD is longest throw and is longest and b&m is longer than twm but have shorter throw and twm is shortest but have longer throw than b&m but shorteer than TRD , and i ordered my twm from twmpreformance.com 140$ shipped i fhink
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Stephen Jul 23, 8:18am - #229847 
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The TRD unit replaces the whole shift assembly...the B&M and TWM just replace the shift rod and the bushings. I heard that TRD may not be compatible with some later model years because of the widened shift gates...I couldn't really get a straight answer anywhere so I just went with the TWM and I'm more than happy. Couldn't imagine it being any shorter than that.
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Speed4TheNeed Jul 23, 12:17pm - #229848 

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...


this is true.

the b&m uses Spacers which actually 'pick up' the shifter assembly (optional). and the throws are shorter, i beleive. thumbsup
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Speed4TheNeed Jul 23, 12:17pm - #229849 

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pic of the b&m in my car:
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cycocelica Jul 23, 5:30pm - #229850 

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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
Originally Posted by spaztikid
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...


this is true.

the b&m uses Spacers which actually 'pick up' the shifter assembly (optional). and the throws are shorter, i beleive. thumbsup


yeah... isnt it TWM for looks and B&M for "performance"
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csheriff Jul 23, 5:34pm - #229851 
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i dont know about the rest, but the b&m throws are shorter than shit.

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Xer0GT Jul 23, 5:45pm - #229852 
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dumb ? and a lil off but, does a ss void warranty?

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oas Jul 23, 6:28pm - #229853 
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here is mine twm and it comes with Spacers to
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Chelica815 Jul 23, 6:30pm - #229854 
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Where did you get the knob from OAS?

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Chico Jul 23, 6:34pm - #229855 

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Humm the B&M seems to better, but its as long as the stock...
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Chico Jul 23, 6:41pm - #229856 

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where can I find a B&M for a fair price..

When I say fair, I mean cheap.. tongue
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samir221 Jul 23, 11:14pm - #229857 
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i got the twm shifter and i love it . never had a problem with it. at the beginning it was too hard to shift . it will take you a litlle bit of time to get used to it but it's worth every penny
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Speed4TheNeed Jul 24, 3:33am - #229858 

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Originally Posted by samir221
i got the twm shifter and i love it . never had a problem with it. at the beginning it was too hard to shift . it will take you a litlle bit of time to get used to it but it's worth every penny


all shifters are like that when you first change them..they loosen up over time thumbsup
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Speed4TheNeed Jul 24, 3:34am - #229859 

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Originally Posted by Chico
Humm the B&M seems to better, but its as long as the stock...


in that pic...the b&m looks noticeably shorter..look at the pic on the top left..THAT is long.

in any case..you don't HAVE to use the Spacers that come with the b&m and that will drop it to just as low as twm and you will still get the advantage of super short throws thumbsup
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DiabloGTS Jul 24, 3:49pm - #229860 

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Here is all the info in once place:

TRD: Replaces entire shift assembly in 2000-early 2001 6 speed GTS only. Can be used as a rod replacement in all other 7th gen Celicas, GT and GTS. Not very short, but SUPER smooth shifts.

B&M: Can be used in any MY GT or GTS as a rod replacement. Shortest throws, taller than B&M and easier to use because of greater leverage. Higest Price

TWM: Shortest rod, shorter throws than TRD, harder to use because of less leverage.

I have used TRD and TWM, and B&M in another car. The TWM is really the best, it makes the car feel like it should. Tight, direct shifts.

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 24, 4:04pm - #229861 

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whoa I thought you gone South Diablo? still here to make Haulin happy huh? I have the B&M but it's tricky to use with the wider shift gates. I don't know much about the shift assembly yet... What can I do about the wider shift gates? Can I install the narrower gates of previous years...or do I have to change out too much junk to do that? Thanks...

EDIT: never mind rod replacement questions hehe...here on the West Coast we don't use the term "rod" too often to mean stick.

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DiabloGTS Jul 24, 4:42pm - #229862 

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When I got here, the broadband was ALREADY set up eek

I'll be posting this weekend, then I have to move the rest of my stuff next week, so I won't be on again for awhile. thumbsup

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corruptor Jul 24, 4:46pm - #229863 

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Originally Posted by Chico
where can I find a B&M for a fair price..

When I say fair, I mean cheap.. tongue

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stefanoc Jul 24, 5:35pm - #229864 

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there is a difference between the 00 and the 03 tranny. if you swap the shifter to TRD on the 00 celica, will it feel like the 03 tranny or was the 03 completely redesigned?
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tWiSteD Jul 24, 9:09pm - #229865 

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I haven't tried b&m for the celica, but my TWM SS is shorter than any of my friends' b&m SS's...it comes with new aluminum bushings, and reduces the throw 60%...i'm pretty damn sure that is more than b&m

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Chico Jul 25, 9:00pm - #229866 

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sweet.. I'd change my mind.. I'll ask for a TWM short shifter
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fraugts Jul 25, 10:36pm - #229867 

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where's the best place to buy the twm?
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oas Jul 25, 10:43pm - #229868 
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Originally Posted by Chelica815
Where did you get the knob from OAS?

its sparco globe x i ordered it from shop in my country but you can find it on the nett to
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cooltoy2000 Jul 25, 11:42pm - #229869 

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Speed4TheNeed Jul 26, 8:26am - #229870 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
there is a difference between the 00 and the 03 tranny. if you swap the shifter to TRD on the 00 celica, will it feel like the 03 tranny or was the 03 completely redesigned?


i doubt the tranny was totally redesigned (not 100% certain though).

the person i bought my b&m ss from had an '03 celica gt...and it works great on my '00 celica gts
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