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Short Shifter Question #229841 Jul 22, 10:29pm Jul 22, 10:29pm
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Short Shifter Question
what are the different on short shifter between TRD, B&M, and TWM??
Which one will actually shorten the throws??
why does the TRD comes with a plastic mounting and the other two are bare shifters???
Which one is the shortest?
confused confused confused confused confused

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chico] #229842 Jul 22, 10:35pm Jul 22, 10:35pm
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From what I have read, TWM is the shortest out of them all. Supposedly, with the design on the TWM, you cannot go any shorter than it.

The TRD is the tallest out of those 3 mentioned.

I myself just ordered the TWM after reading reviews and etc. Also, out of those 3, TWM is the least expensive and the shortest.

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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chelica815] #229843 Jul 22, 11:16pm Jul 22, 11:16pm
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where did you order your TWM from?


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: GTSbyTRD] #229844 Jul 22, 11:24pm Jul 22, 11:24pm
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i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: GTSbyTRD] #229845 Jul 22, 11:25pm Jul 22, 11:25pm
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Got it from Invision Auto Imports. They are having a group buy for like $115 shipped. Great deal IMO.


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chelica815] #229846 Jul 22, 11:56pm Jul 22, 11:56pm
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i fhink TRD is longest throw and is longest and b&m is longer than twm but have shorter throw and twm is shortest but have longer throw than b&m but shorteer than TRD , and i ordered my twm from twmpreformance.com 140$ shipped i fhink

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: oas] #229847 Jul 23, 12:18am Jul 23, 12:18am
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The TRD unit replaces the whole shift assembly...the B&M and TWM just replace the shift rod and the bushings. I heard that TRD may not be compatible with some later model years because of the widened shift gates...I couldn't really get a straight answer anywhere so I just went with the TWM and I'm more than happy. Couldn't imagine it being any shorter than that.

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: spaztikid] #229848 Jul 23, 4:17am Jul 23, 4:17am
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...


this is true.

the b&m uses Spacers which actually 'pick up' the shifter assembly (optional). and the throws are shorter, i beleive. thumbsup

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #229849 Jul 23, 4:17am Jul 23, 4:17am
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pic of the b&m in my car:

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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #229850 Jul 23, 9:30am Jul 23, 9:30am
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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
Originally Posted by spaztikid
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...


this is true.

the b&m uses Spacers which actually 'pick up' the shifter assembly (optional). and the throws are shorter, i beleive. thumbsup


yeah... isnt it TWM for looks and B&M for "performance"

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: cycocelica] #229851 Jul 23, 9:34am Jul 23, 9:34am
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i dont know about the rest, but the b&m throws are shorter than shit.


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: csheriff] #229852 Jul 23, 9:45am Jul 23, 9:45am
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dumb ? and a lil off but, does a ss void warranty?


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Xer0GT] #229853 Jul 23, 10:28am Jul 23, 10:28am
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here is mine twm and it comes with Spacers to

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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: oas] #229854 Jul 23, 10:30am Jul 23, 10:30am
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Where did you get the knob from OAS?


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Xer0GT] #229855 Jul 23, 10:34am Jul 23, 10:34am
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Humm the B&M seems to better, but its as long as the stock...

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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chico] #229856 Jul 23, 10:41am Jul 23, 10:41am
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where can I find a B&M for a fair price..

When I say fair, I mean cheap.. tongue

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chico] #229857 Jul 23, 3:14pm Jul 23, 3:14pm
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i got the twm shifter and i love it . never had a problem with it. at the beginning it was too hard to shift . it will take you a litlle bit of time to get used to it but it's worth every penny

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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: samir221] #229858 Jul 23, 7:33pm Jul 23, 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by samir221
i got the twm shifter and i love it . never had a problem with it. at the beginning it was too hard to shift . it will take you a litlle bit of time to get used to it but it's worth every penny


all shifters are like that when you first change them..they loosen up over time thumbsup

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chico] #229859 Jul 23, 7:34pm Jul 23, 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by Chico
Humm the B&M seems to better, but its as long as the stock...


in that pic...the b&m looks noticeably shorter..look at the pic on the top left..THAT is long.

in any case..you don't HAVE to use the Spacers that come with the b&m and that will drop it to just as low as twm and you will still get the advantage of super short throws thumbsup

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #229860 Jul 24, 7:49am Jul 24, 7:49am
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Here is all the info in once place:

TRD: Replaces entire shift assembly in 2000-early 2001 6 speed GTS only. Can be used as a rod replacement in all other 7th gen Celicas, GT and GTS. Not very short, but SUPER smooth shifts.

B&M: Can be used in any MY GT or GTS as a rod replacement. Shortest throws, taller than B&M and easier to use because of greater leverage. Higest Price

TWM: Shortest rod, shorter throws than TRD, harder to use because of less leverage.

I have used TRD and TWM, and B&M in another car. The TWM is really the best, it makes the car feel like it should. Tight, direct shifts.


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: DiabloGTS] #229861 Jul 24, 8:04am Jul 24, 8:04am
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whoa I thought you gone South Diablo? still here to make Haulin happy huh? I have the B&M but it's tricky to use with the wider shift gates. I don't know much about the shift assembly yet... What can I do about the wider shift gates? Can I install the narrower gates of previous years...or do I have to change out too much junk to do that? Thanks...

EDIT: never mind rod replacement questions hehe...here on the West Coast we don't use the term "rod" too often to mean stick.


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: QTRMLR_1] #229862 Jul 24, 8:42am Jul 24, 8:42am
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When I got here, the broadband was ALREADY set up eek

I'll be posting this weekend, then I have to move the rest of my stuff next week, so I won't be on again for awhile. thumbsup


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chico] #229863 Jul 24, 8:46am Jul 24, 8:46am
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Originally Posted by Chico
where can I find a B&M for a fair price..

When I say fair, I mean cheap.. tongue

Ebaby. Got mine for $45. Works great, and it does sit way lower than the one in the pic up there.

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: corruptor] #229864 Jul 24, 9:35am Jul 24, 9:35am
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there is a difference between the 00 and the 03 tranny. if you swap the shifter to TRD on the 00 celica, will it feel like the 03 tranny or was the 03 completely redesigned?

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #229865 Jul 24, 1:09pm Jul 24, 1:09pm
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I haven't tried b&m for the celica, but my TWM SS is shorter than any of my friends' b&m SS's...it comes with new aluminum bushings, and reduces the throw 60%...i'm pretty damn sure that is more than b&m


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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: tWiSteD] #229866 Jul 25, 1:00pm Jul 25, 1:00pm
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sweet.. I'd change my mind.. I'll ask for a TWM short shifter

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chico] #229867 Jul 25, 2:36pm Jul 25, 2:36pm
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where's the best place to buy the twm?

Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: Chelica815] #229868 Jul 25, 2:43pm Jul 25, 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Chelica815
Where did you get the knob from OAS?

its sparco globe x i ordered it from shop in my country but you can find it on the nett to

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Re: Short Shifter Question [Re: stefanoc] #229870 Jul 26, 12:26am Jul 26, 12:26am
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
there is a difference between the 00 and the 03 tranny. if you swap the shifter to TRD on the 00 celica, will it feel like the 03 tranny or was the 03 completely redesigned?


i doubt the tranny was totally redesigned (not 100% certain though).

the person i bought my b&m ss from had an '03 celica gt...and it works great on my '00 celica gts

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