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Jul 22, 11:29pm - #229841 
Short Shifter Question

what are the different on short shifter between TRD, B&M, and TWM??
Which one will actually shorten the throws??
why does the TRD comes with a plastic mounting and the other two are bare shifters???
Which one is the shortest?
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Jul 22, 11:35pm - #229842 
From what I have read, TWM is the shortest out of them all. Supposedly, with the design on the TWM, you cannot go any shorter than it.

The TRD is the tallest out of those 3 mentioned.

I myself just ordered the TWM after reading reviews and etc. Also, out of those 3, TWM is the least expensive and the shortest.

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Jul 23, 12:16am - #229843 
where did you order your TWM from?


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Jul 23, 12:24am - #229844 
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...

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Jul 23, 12:25am - #229845 
Got it from Invision Auto Imports. They are having a group buy for like $115 shipped. Great deal IMO.


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Jul 23, 12:56am - #229846 
i fhink TRD is longest throw and is longest and b&m is longer than twm but have shorter throw and twm is shortest but have longer throw than b&m but shorteer than TRD , and i ordered my twm from twmpreformance.com 140$ shipped i fhink

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Jul 23, 1:18am - #229847 
The TRD unit replaces the whole shift assembly...the B&M and TWM just replace the shift rod and the bushings. I heard that TRD may not be compatible with some later model years because of the widened shift gates...I couldn't really get a straight answer anywhere so I just went with the TWM and I'm more than happy. Couldn't imagine it being any shorter than that.

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Jul 23, 5:17am - #229848 
Originally Posted by spaztikid
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...


this is true.

the b&m uses Spacers which actually 'pick up' the shifter assembly (optional). and the throws are shorter, i beleive. thumbsup

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Jul 23, 5:17am - #229849 
pic of the b&m in my car:

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Jul 23, 10:30am - #229850 
Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
Originally Posted by spaztikid
i heard twm is the shortest, but the throws for B&M are shorter than twm...


this is true.

the b&m uses Spacers which actually 'pick up' the shifter assembly (optional). and the throws are shorter, i beleive. thumbsup


yeah... isnt it TWM for looks and B&M for "performance"

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Jul 23, 10:34am - #229851 
i dont know about the rest, but the b&m throws are shorter than shit.


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Jul 23, 10:45am - #229852 
dumb ? and a lil off but, does a ss void warranty?


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Jul 23, 11:28am - #229853 
here is mine twm and it comes with Spacers to

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Jul 23, 11:30am - #229854 
Where did you get the knob from OAS?


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Jul 23, 11:34am - #229855 
Humm the B&M seems to better, but its as long as the stock...

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Jul 23, 11:41am - #229856 
where can I find a B&M for a fair price..

When I say fair, I mean cheap.. tongue

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Jul 23, 4:14pm - #229857 
i got the twm shifter and i love it . never had a problem with it. at the beginning it was too hard to shift . it will take you a litlle bit of time to get used to it but it's worth every penny

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Jul 23, 8:33pm - #229858 
Originally Posted by samir221
i got the twm shifter and i love it . never had a problem with it. at the beginning it was too hard to shift . it will take you a litlle bit of time to get used to it but it's worth every penny


all shifters are like that when you first change them..they loosen up over time thumbsup

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Jul 23, 8:34pm - #229859 
Originally Posted by Chico
Humm the B&M seems to better, but its as long as the stock...


in that pic...the b&m looks noticeably shorter..look at the pic on the top left..THAT is long.

in any case..you don't HAVE to use the Spacers that come with the b&m and that will drop it to just as low as twm and you will still get the advantage of super short throws thumbsup

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Jul 24, 8:49am - #229860 
Here is all the info in once place:

TRD: Replaces entire shift assembly in 2000-early 2001 6 speed GTS only. Can be used as a rod replacement in all other 7th gen Celicas, GT and GTS. Not very short, but SUPER smooth shifts.

B&M: Can be used in any MY GT or GTS as a rod replacement. Shortest throws, taller than B&M and easier to use because of greater leverage. Higest Price

TWM: Shortest rod, shorter throws than TRD, harder to use because of less leverage.

I have used TRD and TWM, and B&M in another car. The TWM is really the best, it makes the car feel like it should. Tight, direct shifts.


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Jul 24, 9:04am - #229861 
whoa I thought you gone South Diablo? still here to make Haulin happy huh? I have the B&M but it's tricky to use with the wider shift gates. I don't know much about the shift assembly yet... What can I do about the wider shift gates? Can I install the narrower gates of previous years...or do I have to change out too much junk to do that? Thanks...

EDIT: never mind rod replacement questions hehe...here on the West Coast we don't use the term "rod" too often to mean stick.


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Jul 24, 9:42am - #229862 
When I got here, the broadband was ALREADY set up eek

I'll be posting this weekend, then I have to move the rest of my stuff next week, so I won't be on again for awhile. thumbsup


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Jul 24, 9:46am - #229863 
Originally Posted by Chico
where can I find a B&M for a fair price..

When I say fair, I mean cheap.. tongue

Ebaby. Got mine for $45. Works great, and it does sit way lower than the one in the pic up there.

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Jul 24, 10:35am - #229864 
there is a difference between the 00 and the 03 tranny. if you swap the shifter to TRD on the 00 celica, will it feel like the 03 tranny or was the 03 completely redesigned?

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Jul 24, 2:09pm - #229865 
I haven't tried b&m for the celica, but my TWM SS is shorter than any of my friends' b&m SS's...it comes with new aluminum bushings, and reduces the throw 60%...i'm pretty damn sure that is more than b&m


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Jul 25, 2:00pm - #229866 
sweet.. I'd change my mind.. I'll ask for a TWM short shifter

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Jul 25, 3:36pm - #229867 
where's the best place to buy the twm?

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Jul 25, 3:43pm - #229868 
Originally Posted by Chelica815
Where did you get the knob from OAS?

its sparco globe x i ordered it from shop in my country but you can find it on the nett to

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Jul 26, 1:26am - #229870 
Originally Posted by stefanoc
there is a difference between the 00 and the 03 tranny. if you swap the shifter to TRD on the 00 celica, will it feel like the 03 tranny or was the 03 completely redesigned?


i doubt the tranny was totally redesigned (not 100% certain though).

the person i bought my b&m ss from had an '03 celica gt...and it works great on my '00 celica gts

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