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cycocelica Jul 22, 1:24am - #228738 

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Handling: Celica vs. Focus

OK so my friend has a fuckass(focus) and we were wondering which handles better, the Celica or the Focus?
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NorwayGT Jul 22, 1:31am - #228739 

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celica BY FAR. its seriously not close to a comparison

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cycocelica Jul 22, 1:33am - #228740 

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ok because he seems to insist that his handles better
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NorwayGT Jul 22, 1:41am - #228741 

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tell him to fallow you on some high speed turns, like the one connecting highway 520 from seattle to 405 north

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RevMonster Jul 22, 1:42am - #228742 

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Your friend is a moron. ohboy

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cycocelica Jul 22, 1:43am - #228743 

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haha i know...
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Chelica815 Jul 22, 1:56am - #228744 
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OOOOO HELLL NOOOO!!!!

Tell your friend that he is very much WRONG.

I used to drive a Celica GT right, then I drove an 01 Focus ZX3 which I sold. And now I drive a GTS.

So I have driven both type of Celicas, auto and manual, and that janky Focus.

I can say that the Focus is super weak in handling. When I switch lanes and I drive over those bumps, the steering wheel would jerk around as if the car is losing control. So yeah, super whacked out IMO. O, and do not get me started with the sh*tty recall that the Focus is known for...including the neverending check engine light problem...

If it was soooo good, I would keep the Focus and not purchase the GTS.

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v3n0m Jul 22, 2:18am - #228745 

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Focus is several hundred lbs heavier so obviously the Celica handles better.
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2003cbgts Jul 22, 2:20am - #228746 

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comparing a celica and a focus? holy shit . thats like comparing carmen electras tight sweet pussy to ur hand . focus= thumbsdown
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cycocelica Jul 22, 2:25am - #228747 

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Joan the know it all...



JK i didnt get to make fun of you last night so yeah just had to throw it out...
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Virtuous_One Jul 22, 2:28am - #228748 

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Whoooaaa!...Major brain fart!...Tell ur friend he is dead wrong on this!...Is he serious dude!...where does he get off on this!... rofl grin
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Jae Jul 22, 2:34am - #228749 

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The SVT focus handles pretty good, infact they are one of the top competitor in autox. But in the testing, celicas handle a lot better than focus svt. But not by too much.
you won't feel much difference between two cars
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Hades Jul 22, 3:17am - #228750 

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heheh your celica hadles soo much better, If your pretty crzy tell him to try to keep up with you on corners and you will see. I mess aroud with my friend who got talon eagle Turbo who cant keep up on corners rofl rofl rofl smile smile smile hehe soo celica is awsome on hadling !!!!
i even heard some rumors its better then corvette or so

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maybe i just luv my celi 2 much
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Chelica815 Jul 22, 3:57am - #228751 
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So wait, what kind of a Focus does he have?

Even with the SVT...Celica still outperforms.

But telling him that Celicas are better is like him telling us that the Focus is better.

So the next time he says something like that, just smile and know who is BSing.

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oas Jul 22, 4:08am - #228752 
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haha i know...


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ExNihilo Jul 22, 5:45am - #228753 
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RookieGTS Jul 22, 5:53am - #228754 

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huh say wuuuuut???? hahah what a domestic moron crazy
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vejita_13 Jul 22, 6:02am - #228755 

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Originally Posted by 2003cbgts
comparing a celica and a focus? holy shit . thats like comparing carmen electras tight sweet pussy to ur hand . focus= thumbsdown


rofl rofl rofl
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Polykarb Jul 22, 7:46am - #228756 

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tell your friend that his FOUND ON ROAD DEAD FORD can't even out manuever(spelled right?) an old dodge caravan

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cycocelica Jul 22, 7:55am - #228757 

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haha it looks like a mini van
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stefanoc Jul 22, 8:08am - #228758 

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seriously, domestics are only good at straights and high HP numbers. they're just not made for handling, its only made for some ppl who wanna do the ricer fly by on the freeway, and then brake like crazy when it comes to a turn. they dont even have good braking i think
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RevMonster Jul 22, 8:09am - #228759 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
seriously, domestics are only good at straights and high HP numbers. they're just not made for handling, its only made for some ppl who wanna do the ricer fly by on the freeway, and then brake like crazy when it comes to a turn. they dont even have good braking i think


Not ALL of them. Just 98% of them. I'd still take a 'vette over any import.

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Rocketman Jul 22, 8:35am - #228760 

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I too used to have a focus... ZX3 even, which is the best handling out of the 3. NO COMPARISON! None whatsoever. Your friend is an idiot. thumbsup
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cycocelica Jul 22, 9:26am - #228761 

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yeah thats what he has...a ZX3
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Simple Jul 22, 10:12am - #228762 

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your friend has a few strikes against him there..

1> it's a domestic, economy car.
2> it's a ford thumbsdown
3> he's stupid grin

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 22, 10:16am - #228763 

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Originally Posted by RevMonster

Not ALL of them. Just 98% of them. I'd still take a 'vette over any import.


...but not ALL of them???? any day? heheheheh...
I'd take a TT Supra over a 'vette, wanna bet? grin

Have you seen a 9 second qtr-mile street Supra? I have at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. It's like a jet taking off.
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Simple Jul 22, 10:20am - #228764 

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what about a TT lingenfelter Vette then grin
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Shiftyz1x Jul 22, 1:10pm - #228765 

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RetroJ84 Jul 22, 2:31pm - #228766 
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Originally Posted by 2003cbgts
comparing a celica and a focus? holy shit . thats like comparing carmen electras tight sweet pussy to ur hand . focus= thumbsdown


carmen...tight??

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celica handling =thumbsup focus handling = thumbsdown
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cycocelica Jul 22, 6:32pm - #228768 

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Originally Posted by Simple
what about a TT lingenfelter Vette then grin
those things can race F-18's tongue rofl


id take a vette or viper anyday
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csheriff Jul 22, 9:46pm - #228769 
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what about the focus ST or what ever it is thats always on the radio now, says its got european inspired suspension that sticks to the road like duct tape, is that better than the zx3?

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this is a very dumb question...find out for yourself rolleyes
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Veilside_300 Jul 23, 1:34am - #228771 

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I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sancho Jul 23, 2:07am - #228772 

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If I remember correctly, Consumer Reports rated that the handling and overall ride of the Focus was too bumpy and stiff. Thats part of the reason why I bought a Celica. And the fact that its sleeker. thumbsup

Did we say handling or cornering? Overall handling, Celica still beats the Focus.

Veilside, we're talking handling, not Performance. That's great but I don't care about Turbos.

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hephaestus Jul 23, 3:24am - #228773 
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What kind of question is this? Is this serious? A Celica will out handle any stock focus. The only one that will come close is the SVT. I raced a stock ZX3. That's a long story, but it ended eventually on a twisty winding road. I hit lift in third and was gone 100+MPH for miles. That piece of crap was way back as soon as I shifted to 4th. And I mean at least a mile back at the end. Didn't stand a chance and that idiot deserved the ass kicking. Don't try that at home kids.
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Chelica815 Jul 23, 7:21am - #228774 
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But still, you can't even get the RS here. I have heard that they are trying to get it here for the next line-up or something like that. Not too sure, I was really into the Focus scene when I had my ZX3, but man, that car was a POS.

Also, there are tons of problems with the car. What can you do with an ass kicking specs if it creates problem at about 1K miles.

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ragingpaseo Jul 23, 3:27pm - #228775 
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the mighty Veilside_300 who knows it all... rice thumbsdown rofl rolleyes
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robare99 Jul 23, 3:47pm - #228776 

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RevMonster Jul 23, 5:11pm - #228777 

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Originally Posted by Chelica815
Originally Posted by Veilside_300
I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But still, you can't even get the RS here. I have heard that they are trying to get it here for the next line-up or something like that. Not too sure, I was really into the Focus scene when I had my ZX3, but man, that car was a POS.

Also, there are tons of problems with the car. What can you do with an ass kicking specs if it creates problem at about 1K miles.


Exactly. You can't start comparing modded versions of cars that aren't even on dealers lots. If that's what we're doing, lets toss in the Hotchkis Celica spineyes

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RevMonster Jul 23, 5:16pm - #228778 

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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
Originally Posted by RevMonster

Not ALL of them. Just 98% of them. I'd still take a 'vette over any import.


...but not ALL of them???? any day? heheheheh...
I'd take a TT Supra over a 'vette, wanna bet? grin

Have you seen a 9 second qtr-mile street Supra? I have at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. It's like a jet taking off.
(so now go buy JBing's friend's Supra)


Never seen a 9-second Supra in person. I know they are out there. Have seen a 9-second lingenfelter Vette in person. The crazy part about the Turbo vettes... they are still reliable everyday drivers.

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cycocelica Jul 23, 5:40pm - #228779 

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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Uh actually i know about the RS but since it is only available in the UK, it wouldnt even be considered. So yeah i do know about cars outside of the Celica
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Veilside_300 Jul 23, 5:51pm - #228780 

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UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2

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Simple Jul 23, 6:23pm - #228781 

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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


not gonna happen since the Celica is as good as dead to Toyota thumbsdown

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RevMonster Jul 23, 6:23pm - #228782 

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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


The GTS already beats the RX8 in every Performance catagory.

I'm hopeful that Toyota will eventually enter the performace sports car market again... but it's not going to be with the Celica. And it couldn't have been with ours anyway. We already have the handling to run with any other sport coupe, but just not the power... and have you seen our engine bays? How are they going to fit a I-6 in there? The GTS truly is a sport compact car, NOT a performace car. I'm not saying that's a bad thing... but we have to take it for what it is.

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Chelica815 Jul 23, 6:24pm - #228783 
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


But the whole point of this thread is comparing his friend's stock POS Focus with his Celica. We are not even comparing RS versus GTS. That is like throwing in a Supra just because before it was called a Celica Supra.

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cycocelica Jul 23, 6:26pm - #228784 

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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


The GTS already beats the RX8 in every Performance catagory.

I'm hopeful that Toyota will eventually enter the performace sports car market again... but it's not going to be with the Celica. And it couldn't have been with ours anyway. We already have the handling to run with any other sport coupe, but just not the power... and have you seen our engine bays? How are they going to fit a I-6 in there? The GTS truly is a sport compact car, NOT a performace car. I'm not saying that's a bad thing... but we have to take it for what it is.


yeah i was going to say...we beat the RX8
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SPec_ceLICA Jul 23, 7:19pm - #228785 

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Veilside_300 Jul 23, 11:40pm - #228786 

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Wish we did beat the RX8 on Performance. HA HA HA!

The GTS is 50bhp down and has FWD compared to the mazdas RWD. The lap times show what an advantage the RX8 has over the Celica.

Granted though, his friends piece of shit ST170 or 2.0 Zetec or whatever it is is no match for the T Sport.

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Veilside_300 Jul 23, 11:43pm - #228787 

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Actually I retract my previous statement (slighty). I just checked some lap times and the RX8 is actually not that much quicker than the Celica. I suppose 40/50 bhp is not such an advantage when you carry more weight and suffer with the same lack of low end grunt.

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