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Handling: Celica vs. Focus #228738 Jul 21, 6:24pm Jul 21, 6:24pm
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Handling: Celica vs. Focus
OK so my friend has a fuckass(focus) and we were wondering which handles better, the Celica or the Focus?

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228739 Jul 21, 6:31pm Jul 21, 6:31pm
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celica BY FAR. its seriously not close to a comparison


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: NorwayGT] #228740 Jul 21, 6:33pm Jul 21, 6:33pm
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ok because he seems to insist that his handles better

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228741 Jul 21, 6:41pm Jul 21, 6:41pm
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tell him to fallow you on some high speed turns, like the one connecting highway 520 from seattle to 405 north


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: NorwayGT] #228742 Jul 21, 6:42pm Jul 21, 6:42pm
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Your friend is a moron. ohboy


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: RevMonster] #228743 Jul 21, 6:43pm Jul 21, 6:43pm
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haha i know...

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228744 Jul 21, 6:56pm Jul 21, 6:56pm
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OOOOO HELLL NOOOO!!!!

Tell your friend that he is very much WRONG.

I used to drive a Celica GT right, then I drove an 01 Focus ZX3 which I sold. And now I drive a GTS.

So I have driven both type of Celicas, auto and manual, and that janky Focus.

I can say that the Focus is super weak in handling. When I switch lanes and I drive over those bumps, the steering wheel would jerk around as if the car is losing control. So yeah, super whacked out IMO. O, and do not get me started with the sh*tty recall that the Focus is known for...including the neverending check engine light problem...

If it was soooo good, I would keep the Focus and not purchase the GTS.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Chelica815] #228745 Jul 21, 7:18pm Jul 21, 7:18pm
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Focus is several hundred lbs heavier so obviously the Celica handles better.

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: v3n0m] #228746 Jul 21, 7:20pm Jul 21, 7:20pm
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comparing a celica and a focus? holy shit . thats like comparing carmen electras tight sweet pussy to ur hand . focus= thumbsdown

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: 2003cbgts] #228747 Jul 21, 7:25pm Jul 21, 7:25pm
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JK i didnt get to make fun of you last night so yeah just had to throw it out...

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228748 Jul 21, 7:28pm Jul 21, 7:28pm
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Whoooaaa!...Major brain fart!...Tell ur friend he is dead wrong on this!...Is he serious dude!...where does he get off on this!... rofl grin

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Virtuous_One] #228749 Jul 21, 7:34pm Jul 21, 7:34pm
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The SVT focus handles pretty good, infact they are one of the top competitor in autox. But in the testing, celicas handle a lot better than focus svt. But not by too much.
you won't feel much difference between two cars

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Virtuous_One] #228750 Jul 21, 8:17pm Jul 21, 8:17pm
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heheh your celica hadles soo much better, If your pretty crzy tell him to try to keep up with you on corners and you will see. I mess aroud with my friend who got talon eagle Turbo who cant keep up on corners rofl rofl rofl smile smile smile hehe soo celica is awsome on hadling !!!!
i even heard some rumors its better then corvette or so

lol
maybe i just luv my celi 2 much

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Hades] #228751 Jul 21, 8:57pm Jul 21, 8:57pm
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So wait, what kind of a Focus does he have?

Even with the SVT...Celica still outperforms.

But telling him that Celicas are better is like him telling us that the Focus is better.

So the next time he says something like that, just smile and know who is BSing.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228752 Jul 21, 9:08pm Jul 21, 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by cycocelica
haha i know...


now you cant show him this post grin

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: oas] #228753 Jul 21, 10:45pm Jul 21, 10:45pm
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Say, what?


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: ExNihilo] #228754 Jul 21, 10:53pm Jul 21, 10:53pm
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huh say wuuuuut???? hahah what a domestic moron crazy

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: 2003cbgts] #228755 Jul 21, 11:02pm Jul 21, 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by 2003cbgts
comparing a celica and a focus? holy shit . thats like comparing carmen electras tight sweet pussy to ur hand . focus= thumbsdown


rofl rofl rofl

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: vejita_13] #228756 Jul 22, 12:46am Jul 22, 12:46am
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tell your friend that his FOUND ON ROAD DEAD FORD can't even out manuever(spelled right?) an old dodge caravan


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Polykarb] #228757 Jul 22, 12:55am Jul 22, 12:55am
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haha it looks like a mini van

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228758 Jul 22, 1:08am Jul 22, 1:08am
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seriously, domestics are only good at straights and high HP numbers. they're just not made for handling, its only made for some ppl who wanna do the ricer fly by on the freeway, and then brake like crazy when it comes to a turn. they dont even have good braking i think

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: stefanoc] #228759 Jul 22, 1:09am Jul 22, 1:09am
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
seriously, domestics are only good at straights and high HP numbers. they're just not made for handling, its only made for some ppl who wanna do the ricer fly by on the freeway, and then brake like crazy when it comes to a turn. they dont even have good braking i think


Not ALL of them. Just 98% of them. I'd still take a 'vette over any import.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: RevMonster] #228760 Jul 22, 1:35am Jul 22, 1:35am
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I too used to have a focus... ZX3 even, which is the best handling out of the 3. NO COMPARISON! None whatsoever. Your friend is an idiot. thumbsup

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Rocketman] #228761 Jul 22, 2:26am Jul 22, 2:26am
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yeah thats what he has...a ZX3

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228762 Jul 22, 3:12am Jul 22, 3:12am
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your friend has a few strikes against him there..

1> it's a domestic, economy car.
2> it's a ford thumbsdown
3> he's stupid grin


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: RevMonster] #228763 Jul 22, 3:16am Jul 22, 3:16am
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Originally Posted by RevMonster

Not ALL of them. Just 98% of them. I'd still take a 'vette over any import.


...but not ALL of them???? any day? heheheheh...
I'd take a TT Supra over a 'vette, wanna bet? grin

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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: QTRMLR_1] #228764 Jul 22, 3:20am Jul 22, 3:20am
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what about a TT lingenfelter Vette then grin
those things can race F-18's tongue rofl


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Simple] #228765 Jul 22, 6:10am Jul 22, 6:10am
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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: 2003cbgts] #228766 Jul 22, 7:31am Jul 22, 7:31am
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Originally Posted by 2003cbgts
comparing a celica and a focus? holy shit . thats like comparing carmen electras tight sweet pussy to ur hand . focus= thumbsdown


carmen...tight??


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: RetroJ84] #228767 Jul 22, 11:14am Jul 22, 11:14am

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celica handling =thumbsup focus handling = thumbsdown

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Simple] #228768 Jul 22, 11:32am Jul 22, 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Simple
what about a TT lingenfelter Vette then grin
those things can race F-18's tongue rofl


id take a vette or viper anyday

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228769 Jul 22, 2:46pm Jul 22, 2:46pm
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what about the focus ST or what ever it is thats always on the radio now, says its got european inspired suspension that sticks to the road like duct tape, is that better than the zx3?


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: csheriff] #228770 Jul 22, 3:01pm Jul 22, 3:01pm

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this is a very dumb question...find out for yourself rolleyes

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus #228771 Jul 22, 6:34pm Jul 22, 6:34pm
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I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228772 Jul 22, 7:07pm Jul 22, 7:07pm
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If I remember correctly, Consumer Reports rated that the handling and overall ride of the Focus was too bumpy and stiff. Thats part of the reason why I bought a Celica. And the fact that its sleeker. thumbsup

Did we say handling or cornering? Overall handling, Celica still beats the Focus.

Veilside, we're talking handling, not Performance. That's great but I don't care about Turbos.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Sancho] #228773 Jul 22, 8:24pm Jul 22, 8:24pm
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What kind of question is this? Is this serious? A Celica will out handle any stock focus. The only one that will come close is the SVT. I raced a stock ZX3. That's a long story, but it ended eventually on a twisty winding road. I hit lift in third and was gone 100+MPH for miles. That piece of crap was way back as soon as I shifted to 4th. And I mean at least a mile back at the end. Didn't stand a chance and that idiot deserved the ass kicking. Don't try that at home kids.

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228774 Jul 23, 12:21am Jul 23, 12:21am
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But still, you can't even get the RS here. I have heard that they are trying to get it here for the next line-up or something like that. Not too sure, I was really into the Focus scene when I had my ZX3, but man, that car was a POS.

Also, there are tons of problems with the car. What can you do with an ass kicking specs if it creates problem at about 1K miles.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Chelica815] #228775 Jul 23, 8:27am Jul 23, 8:27am
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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: ragingpaseo] #228776 Jul 23, 8:47am Jul 23, 8:47am
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Take him for a run on some twisties and OWN his ass.

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Chelica815] #228777 Jul 23, 10:11am Jul 23, 10:11am
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Originally Posted by Chelica815
Originally Posted by Veilside_300
I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But still, you can't even get the RS here. I have heard that they are trying to get it here for the next line-up or something like that. Not too sure, I was really into the Focus scene when I had my ZX3, but man, that car was a POS.

Also, there are tons of problems with the car. What can you do with an ass kicking specs if it creates problem at about 1K miles.


Exactly. You can't start comparing modded versions of cars that aren't even on dealers lots. If that's what we're doing, lets toss in the Hotchkis Celica spineyes


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: QTRMLR_1] #228778 Jul 23, 10:16am Jul 23, 10:16am
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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
Originally Posted by RevMonster

Not ALL of them. Just 98% of them. I'd still take a 'vette over any import.


...but not ALL of them???? any day? heheheheh...
I'd take a TT Supra over a 'vette, wanna bet? grin

Have you seen a 9 second qtr-mile street Supra? I have at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. It's like a jet taking off.
(so now go buy JBing's friend's Supra)


Never seen a 9-second Supra in person. I know they are out there. Have seen a 9-second lingenfelter Vette in person. The crazy part about the Turbo vettes... they are still reliable everyday drivers.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228779 Jul 23, 10:40am Jul 23, 10:40am
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
I THINK EVERYONES FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOCUS RS.

PUT IT LIKE THIS, THE FLAGSHIP FOCUS OUTHANDLES THE FLAGSHIP CELICA.

Ultra stiff suspension and that quaife torque biasing differential thingy ensure the Focus has the firm advantage around the track. Not to mention straight line Performance. A whopping Turbo and 212bhp gives the Focus a blistering 5.9 0-60mph and 14 0-100mph.

The handling of the Focus is more on par with the Impreza WRX. Sorry to spoil the party but some people on here don't have very much knowledge outside of their Celicas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Uh actually i know about the RS but since it is only available in the UK, it wouldnt even be considered. So yeah i do know about cars outside of the Celica

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: cycocelica] #228780 Jul 23, 10:51am Jul 23, 10:51am
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UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228781 Jul 23, 11:23am Jul 23, 11:23am
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


not gonna happen since the Celica is as good as dead to Toyota thumbsdown


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228782 Jul 23, 11:23am Jul 23, 11:23am
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


The GTS already beats the RX8 in every Performance catagory.

I'm hopeful that Toyota will eventually enter the performace sports car market again... but it's not going to be with the Celica. And it couldn't have been with ours anyway. We already have the handling to run with any other sport coupe, but just not the power... and have you seen our engine bays? How are they going to fit a I-6 in there? The GTS truly is a sport compact car, NOT a performace car. I'm not saying that's a bad thing... but we have to take it for what it is.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228783 Jul 23, 11:24am Jul 23, 11:24am
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Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


But the whole point of this thread is comparing his friend's stock POS Focus with his Celica. We are not even comparing RS versus GTS. That is like throwing in a Supra just because before it was called a Celica Supra.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: RevMonster] #228784 Jul 23, 11:26am Jul 23, 11:26am
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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by Veilside_300
UK or not its still a stock Focus from the factroy.

And test after test it beats the Celica around a track. I know its sad to hear but its true. Toyota need to pull up their socks and come up with a Celica model that competes with the 350Z, RX8 and Audi TT 3.2


The GTS already beats the RX8 in every Performance catagory.

I'm hopeful that Toyota will eventually enter the performace sports car market again... but it's not going to be with the Celica. And it couldn't have been with ours anyway. We already have the handling to run with any other sport coupe, but just not the power... and have you seen our engine bays? How are they going to fit a I-6 in there? The GTS truly is a sport compact car, NOT a performace car. I'm not saying that's a bad thing... but we have to take it for what it is.


yeah i was going to say...we beat the RX8

Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: RevMonster] #228785 Jul 23, 12:19pm Jul 23, 12:19pm
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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: SPec_ceLICA] #228786 Jul 23, 4:40pm Jul 23, 4:40pm
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Wish we did beat the RX8 on Performance. HA HA HA!

The GTS is 50bhp down and has FWD compared to the mazdas RWD. The lap times show what an advantage the RX8 has over the Celica.

Granted though, his friends piece of shit ST170 or 2.0 Zetec or whatever it is is no match for the T Sport.


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Re: Handling: Celica vs. Focus [Re: Veilside_300] #228787 Jul 23, 4:43pm Jul 23, 4:43pm
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Actually I retract my previous statement (slighty). I just checked some lap times and the RX8 is actually not that much quicker than the Celica. I suppose 40/50 bhp is not such an advantage when you carry more weight and suffer with the same lack of low end grunt.


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