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outlawstar33 Jul 21, 1:38am - #228093 
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fighting a speeding ticket

I recently got a speeding ticket, does anyone know a website where i can get info about fighting it?
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Polykarb Jul 21, 3:59am - #228094 

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just for speeding? anything else like modifications (exhaust noise)or mad bass?

Did the cop accuse you of speeding, when you were not?

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round2gts Jul 21, 4:02am - #228095 

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how fast over?
how many is this?
catch you by radar or not?

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 8:27am - #228096 

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you can try looking in the phone book for a pro bono attorney who will handle it for free and reduce it to a non-moving violation aka parking ticket. If not, you'll have to pay an attorney anywhere between $100-$200 to keep the speeding ticket off your record and to keep your insurance from going up. For those people who live in Vegas, you can contact Craig P. Kenny who does speeding tickets pro bono. He took care of one for me. Good luck.
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outlawstar33 Jul 21, 3:46pm - #228097 
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I was speedign he says he had me going 85 in a 55, I was going about 70, he had to manuever around some cars in order to catch up with me thats why I think he says I was going 85, I saw him but i needed to change lanes so i sped up.
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RaptorGTS Jul 21, 3:53pm - #228098 
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Here is what you say...I was not speeding, simply accelerating quicker than the rest, which yielded a higher velocity. The higher final velocity is due do a increased acceleration throughout a given distance at a matter of time... then make up some more stuff and you are sure to get away free.
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 5:29pm - #228099 

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Originally Posted by RaptorGTS
Here is what you say...I was not speeding, simply accelerating quicker than the rest, which yielded a higher velocity. The higher final velocity is due do a increased acceleration throughout a given distance at a matter of time... then make up some more stuff and you are sure to get away free.


you can't argue with cops. That doesn't work. You can charm them if you're a hottie and you're their type, or you can use a sense of humor to lighten things up and make them more at ease. Or you can present yourself in a way that makes them feel sympathetic. Don't use logical argumentation with a cop. He'll just slap a ticket on you.
If you do get a ticket, it's simple like I've been saying all along: just take it to an attorney. 99.9% of the population does not realize what an attorney can do for them regarding speeding tickets and other moving violations.

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RaptorGTS Jul 21, 5:31pm - #228100 
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or say what I said. Tell him you had bees in your car and one landed on your pedal so you floored it to kill the bee.Since you wanted the bee to be completely dead you kept pressure on the pedal
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 5:34pm - #228101 

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ok he might laugh at you thinking you're telling a joke and then may let you off, but probably not. But if you try to pass that off seriously where I'm from in SoCal, that will just get you a Big ticket, no kidding.

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 5:39pm - #228102 

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...and he won't even take a second to look for a dead bee before he buzzes in your D.License number to his Queen Dispatcher, hehe. grin

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RaptorGTS Jul 21, 5:50pm - #228103 
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well then ... wtf
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CelicaGTizzle Jul 21, 5:52pm - #228104 

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You could get court supervision. As long as you don't get another ticket for 90 days it won't count against you.

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RaptorGTS Jul 21, 5:53pm - #228105 
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 5:57pm - #228106 

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^^ and how do you get this court supervision? By pleading guilty?

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 5:59pm - #228107 

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^^ won't count against you...meaning it won't go down on your record as a moving violation??? Please clarify.

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slidr Jul 21, 7:09pm - #228108 

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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
you can try looking in the phone book for a pro bono attorney who will handle it for free and reduce it to a non-moving violation aka parking ticket. If not, you'll have to pay an attorney anywhere between $100-$200 to keep the speeding ticket off your record and to keep your insurance from going up. For those people who live in Vegas, you can contact Craig P. Kenny who does speeding tickets pro bono. He took care of one for me. Good luck.
If you are paying that much, then shop around a little more, and don't go to lawyers that work at those "traffic law centers."

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 8:13pm - #228109 

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paying that much? "pro bono" is Latin "for the (public) Good" aka "free." Free is better than $30 IMO.

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CelicaGTizzle Jul 21, 8:16pm - #228110 

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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1

^^ and how do you get this court supervision? By pleading guilty?


Yeah you plead guilty and they watch and see if you get a ticket for the next 90 days. If you get no tickets then, the one you got doesn't go on your record. You can only get court supervision once every year.

I say court supervision because he is guilty of speeding. He admitted to doing 70 mph in a 55 mph.

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 8:19pm - #228111 

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is court supervision a guaranteed right if you request it, or is it something granted to you after request if the judge feels like you can have it? if so, is it the same in all states in the U.S.?

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 8:33pm - #228112 

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Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
^^ and how do you get this court supervision? By pleading guilty?


I say court supervision because he is guilty of speeding. He admitted to doing 70 mph in a 55 mph.


Who "admitted" to doing 70 in a 55? Outlawster33? He admitted it to us, but he did not state he admitted it to the cops. Even if he signed the citation that is not an implicit admission of guilt in any way, as it just agrees that those are the charges the officer is making.

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Virtuous_One Jul 21, 8:57pm - #228113 

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 21, 10:12pm - #228114 

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hehe and get pok'd up da ass by the po po's. poke uh, no thanks. I'm not that kind of man lol.

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oas Jul 21, 10:49pm - #228115 
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figth it and get 2 thats my experianse thumbsdown
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 22, 9:36am - #228116 

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sorry sux in norway I guess...You guys need more lawyers!!! we should send some of our excess to you!!!

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Speedra500 Jul 22, 7:48pm - #228117 
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If your are a good comfortable speaker, go to the court room and ask the police officer exactly how he judged your speed based on how many cars he had to manuever around? There could have been any number of cars between myself and you and that would have no relation to my speed. {Use some type of example of your logic --example} Even if you had to manuever around 20 cars, that would not increase my speed.

Judges are obviously going to be bias towards the side of the police officer so you have to be smart, simple, very coherent, dress nicely, be prepared, do not lose are your tempor and any given time, look the cop straight in the eye when he is talking and look the judge straight in the eye when you are making your point, and try not to be nervous{or at least try not to show it}, and also cross your fingers thumbsup

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 23, 11:31am - #228118 

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Originally Posted by Speedra500
If your are a good comfortable speaker, go to the court room and ask the police officer exactly how he judged your speed based on how many cars he had to manuever around? There could have been any number of cars between myself and you and that would have no relation to my speed. {Use some type of example of your logic --example} Even if you had to manuever around 20 cars, that would not increase my speed.

Judges are obviously going to be bias towards the side of the police officer so you have to be smart, simple, very coherent, dress nicely, be prepared, do not lose are your tempor and any given time, look the cop straight in the eye when he is talking and look the judge straight in the eye when you are making your point, and try not to be nervous{or at least try not to show it}, and also cross your fingers thumbsup


I would do this only if you like bingo, blackjack, poker, baccharat, roulette, craps, slots, you name it. It's your money so it's up to you. How much are you willing to bet on your speaking skills and the judge believing you over the officer? Enlisting an attorney for a speeding ticket is much much more of a sure thing than what you suggest. Stay in control of the situation, whatever you do, racing or life in general. Always play the odds in your favor and you'll come out a winner overall.

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outlawstar33 Jul 24, 3:53am - #228119 
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don't understand the court supervision, how do you go about getting it, do i ask for it, or where can i find more info on it?
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isaac Jul 24, 8:38am - #228120 
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cop pulled me over for 50 in a 35 tonight (all within a ONE SINGLE BLOCK drive) he said he paced me - I asked him why only when i pulled over and put on my flasher because i saw him behind me, did he only just then put on his disco lights? he didn't answer anything except, "i paced you at 50 in a 35 zone" and to that, i replied, "i pay close attention to my speedo and it never went above 40mph"... then after 20 minutes of whatever the fuck he was doing in his car, he comes back and says it was 55mph - i called him on this bull shit and he says that whatever i wanted to hear wasn't what he said, "55mph".

either way - there was no way i could have been going even 50 mph all within a single block, after just finished turning a left, and then to be paced all within that single block as well.

I can see it as the pig needed to got 55mph to catch up to my 40 mph... but not pace me on it thumbsdown

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RevMonster Jul 24, 8:47am - #228121 

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Damn that's a BS ticket.

You have to fight that one. If you take it to court and explain how short of distance you were traveling on that street, and that there is NO way for a cop to catch up to you and pace you over that distance, any logical judge is going to toss it...

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 24, 9:08am - #228122 

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Originally Posted by outlawstar33
don't understand the court supervision, how do you go about getting it, do i ask for it, or where can i find more info on it?


that's a good question because I'm curious on it too, and the guy who brought it up has yet to answer my latest questions (if you scroll up). But all in all, even if it is true what he is saying, I still see it as losing control of the situation by putting yourself at the mercy of the police and the courts. What if you DO get another ticket within those 90 days for BS reasons. Then you would be definitely screwed because both tickets would go on your record, and it would be much harder from then on to use an attorney to get rid of speeding tickets given your blemished record. I say go attorney from the very start, and always from then on. It's the surest route. I only have parking tickets on my record and my insurance has not gone up a penny.

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sorry to hear that Isaac...you should win, if the judge is smart...good luck
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 24, 11:46am - #228124 

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sorry about the pigs Isaac...

regardless of how it turns out, I would file a formal complaint against the officer who obviously did all in his power to unjustly give you a speeding ticket. Try to speak directly with his superior and make sure the incident and your complaint gets stuck on his record.

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isaac Jul 24, 6:08pm - #228125 
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First he told me 50mph, then 20 minutes later he said 55mph and i called him on it and he instantly told me that he could put me in handcuffs and make me spend a night in jail - when it was all said and done, he wrote 55mph is the violation on the ticket, but then wrote "actual speed 52mph"

what I'm wondering is how the heck could he have paced me all within this distance that i had been at a complete STOP, waiting to turn left, and then less than ONE BLOCK later to another COMPLETE STOP confused ... of 55mph confused confused
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 24, 6:17pm - #228126 

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well if he did put you in jail...if I were in your shoes I would have sued for unlawful arrest and detainment. Effing Cop!!!! angry angry angry Every cop I see in the next week is getting the finger from me hehe (bad habit I'm trying to cut down on).

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cops are lucky I am a law abiding citizen and not one that gives them what they deserve, that's all I'll say. wink

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Virtuous_One Jul 24, 11:02pm - #228128 

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Any additional sound or light modifications can also draw a cop's attention. The neon running lights, thumping bass, straightened exhaust pipes, and glass packs might make you look cooler in Cali, USA, but they also mean that with your cool points, you get points on your license (the more points you get on your license, the closer you are to losing your license, possibly permanently). Additionally, cops seem to hate tinted windows. If you don't have tinted windows, don't get them. If you do, make sure you immediately roll all of your windows down the minute you get pulled over. This allows the cop better vision into your car giving her/him more confidence about the situation. When the cop is relaxed, your chances of avoiding the ticket are better. (Maybe you should consider playing Enya music when you get pulled over|

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QTRMLR_1 Jul 25, 12:09am - #228129 

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I heard you say that before wow with the exact same wording... grin

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^^^ its quoted from one of our featured articles... rolleyes
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