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Jul 20, 12:41pm - #227925 
Just Curious

If a GTS has I/E/H with a tubo would it be worth it to stroke it to a 2.0. And would it add any power?

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Jul 20, 12:44pm - #227926 
i would think


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Jul 20, 12:45pm - #227927 
it would add torque and hp.

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Jul 20, 12:46pm - #227928 
it would be worth it.
but try to lower the compression when you stroke it. you will see better gains.


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Jul 20, 1:05pm - #227929 
well you cant have I/H/E AND a Turbo lol

the Turbos have thier own Intake setup, and their own exhaust manifold.

a stroked 2zz + Turbo would add quite a bit of torque.


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Jul 20, 1:55pm - #227930 
I am not doing it yet I was just curious. I dont even have a Turbo. No one ever strokes thier Celica. Is there any disadvantage?

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Jul 20, 3:41pm - #227931 
Originally Posted by ImportRacer
I am not doing it yet I was just curious. I dont even have a Turbo. No one ever strokes thier Celica. Is there any disadvantage?


RPMS would by my guess. Larger pistons would mean that your redline could be reduced. But a stroked Turbo charged motor would be the one to beat.

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Jul 20, 5:25pm - #227932 
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
well you cant have I/H/E AND a Turbo lol

the Turbos have thier own Intake setup, and their own exhaust manifold.

a stroked 2zz + Turbo would add quite a bit of torque.


true you might not want the same exact Intake, but you can carry over some Intake elements that you had before the Turbo if it's a custom job. For example if you have the C02 air cooler Intake before your Turbo you can use that with your Turbo. And if it's a custom Turbo and not in a kit, who says it comes with an Intake?


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Jul 20, 5:32pm - #227933 
Originally Posted by ImportRacer
I am not doing it yet I was just curious. I dont even have a Turbo. No one ever strokes thier Celica. Is there any disadvantage?


Just because we're all lazy bums and haven't gotten around to it on our new cars, which are too nice to mess around with just yet. Not like we have 10 year old junky hondas laying around and we're trying to give them some extra go for the dough. In time... And how many have actually gotten a port n polish of the c.head? I'm getting mine pnp'ed some time this year, but you can probably count the number right now who have on one hand...including C2gas.


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Jul 20, 5:35pm - #227934 
i plan on boring my engine to a 2 liter with a high compression when my engine dies, and qtrmlr tell me when you get ur port an polished because im gonna do the same! thumbsup

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Jul 20, 5:37pm - #227935 
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.

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Jul 20, 5:38pm - #227936 
Originally Posted by silver
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.


They sell the stroker kit, so you can assume it can be done.

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Jul 20, 6:06pm - #227937 
Originally Posted by silver
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.


The Trial Kit, which is the only kit that I know of so far, accomplishes the "stroking" by increasing the "stroke" by way of the Trial crank, not the bore. By my calculations the stroke is increased to about 95 mm as opposed to the stock 85 mm. That's a 1 cm difference, or 12% increase in stroke/cylinder which accounts for the 22% increase in hp!!! (220 hp up from 180 hp).


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Jul 20, 6:13pm - #227938 
Trial 3zz Stroker "Yeah baby!" Kit:

http://www.trial.co.jp/trial-usa/original/engine/celica/3zz.htm

Of course you can't rev as high so you might want to stick with the 1.8 for all-motor guys, but it would kick a$$ on a Turbo. For an all-race car where it's likely you'll blow your engine, I can see N/A guys going with 2.0 L all the way up to 8500 rpm haha.


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Jul 20, 7:13pm - #227939 
Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
Originally Posted by silver
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.


The Trial Kit, which is the only kit that I know of so far, accomplishes the "stroking" by increasing the "stroke" by way of the Trial crank, not the bore. By my calculations the stroke is increased to about 95 mm as opposed to the stock 85 mm. That's a 1 cm difference, or 12% increase in stroke/cylinder which accounts for the 22% increase in hp!!! (220 hp up from 180 hp).


My bad.

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