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Just Curious #227925 Jul 20, 11:41am Jul 20, 11:41am
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If a GTS has I/E/H with a tubo would it be worth it to stroke it to a 2.0. And would it add any power?

Re: Just Curious [Re: ImportRacer] #227926 Jul 20, 11:44am Jul 20, 11:44am
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it would add torque and hp.

Re: Just Curious [Re: RicePowered] #227928 Jul 20, 11:46am Jul 20, 11:46am
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it would be worth it.
but try to lower the compression when you stroke it. you will see better gains.


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Re: Just Curious [Re: Simple] #227929 Jul 20, 12:05pm Jul 20, 12:05pm
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well you cant have I/H/E AND a Turbo lol

the Turbos have thier own Intake setup, and their own exhaust manifold.

a stroked 2zz + Turbo would add quite a bit of torque.


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Re: Just Curious [Re: Lucky_317] #227930 Jul 20, 12:55pm Jul 20, 12:55pm
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I am not doing it yet I was just curious. I dont even have a Turbo. No one ever strokes thier Celica. Is there any disadvantage?

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Originally Posted by ImportRacer
I am not doing it yet I was just curious. I dont even have a Turbo. No one ever strokes thier Celica. Is there any disadvantage?


RPMS would by my guess. Larger pistons would mean that your redline could be reduced. But a stroked Turbo charged motor would be the one to beat.

Re: Just Curious [Re: Lucky_317] #227932 Jul 20, 4:25pm Jul 20, 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
well you cant have I/H/E AND a Turbo lol

the Turbos have thier own Intake setup, and their own exhaust manifold.

a stroked 2zz + Turbo would add quite a bit of torque.


true you might not want the same exact Intake, but you can carry over some Intake elements that you had before the Turbo if it's a custom job. For example if you have the C02 air cooler Intake before your Turbo you can use that with your Turbo. And if it's a custom Turbo and not in a kit, who says it comes with an Intake?


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Originally Posted by ImportRacer
I am not doing it yet I was just curious. I dont even have a Turbo. No one ever strokes thier Celica. Is there any disadvantage?


Just because we're all lazy bums and haven't gotten around to it on our new cars, which are too nice to mess around with just yet. Not like we have 10 year old junky hondas laying around and we're trying to give them some extra go for the dough. In time... And how many have actually gotten a port n polish of the c.head? I'm getting mine pnp'ed some time this year, but you can probably count the number right now who have on one hand...including C2gas.


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i plan on boring my engine to a 2 liter with a high compression when my engine dies, and qtrmlr tell me when you get ur port an polished because im gonna do the same! thumbsup

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I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.

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Originally Posted by silver
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.


They sell the stroker kit, so you can assume it can be done.

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Originally Posted by silver
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.


The Trial Kit, which is the only kit that I know of so far, accomplishes the "stroking" by increasing the "stroke" by way of the Trial crank, not the bore. By my calculations the stroke is increased to about 95 mm as opposed to the stock 85 mm. That's a 1 cm difference, or 12% increase in stroke/cylinder which accounts for the 22% increase in hp!!! (220 hp up from 180 hp).


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Trial 3zz Stroker "Yeah baby!" Kit:

http://www.trial.co.jp/trial-usa/original/engine/celica/3zz.htm

Of course you can't rev as high so you might want to stick with the 1.8 for all-motor guys, but it would kick a$$ on a Turbo. For an all-race car where it's likely you'll blow your engine, I can see N/A guys going with 2.0 L all the way up to 8500 rpm haha.


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Re: Just Curious [Re: QTRMLR_1] #227939 Jul 20, 6:13pm Jul 20, 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
Originally Posted by silver
I think the cylinder walls are too thin to be stroked. I don't think there's any more displacement to be had from the 2ZZ.


The Trial Kit, which is the only kit that I know of so far, accomplishes the "stroking" by increasing the "stroke" by way of the Trial crank, not the bore. By my calculations the stroke is increased to about 95 mm as opposed to the stock 85 mm. That's a 1 cm difference, or 12% increase in stroke/cylinder which accounts for the 22% increase in hp!!! (220 hp up from 180 hp).


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