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GTS head on a GT block #227865 Jul 20, 8:59am Jul 20, 8:59am
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GTS head on a GT block
Is it possible to put a GTS head on a GT block? What are the advantages to doing this? Does the GTS head flow better?


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: CelicaGTizzle] #227866 Jul 20, 9:03am Jul 20, 9:03am
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Differnt engine. Dosent work like the LS VTEC swap. Sorry.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: CelicaGTizzle] #227867 Jul 20, 11:02am Jul 20, 11:02am
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Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Is it possible to put a GTS head on a GT block? What are the advantages to doing this? Does the GTS head flow better?


I don't know. Check the cylinder diameter & see if its the same.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227868 Jul 20, 11:41am Jul 20, 11:41am
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Is it possible to put a GTS head on a GT block? What are the advantages to doing this? Does the GTS head flow better?


I don't know. Check the cylinder diameter & see if its the same.


It's not.

They are two COMPLETELY different engines.


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227869 Jul 20, 11:47am Jul 20, 11:47am
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Yah, I suppose you have tried it then?

The two engines are not that much different.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227870 Jul 20, 11:48am Jul 20, 11:48am
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It comes down to bolt pattern & cylinder diameter. I was under the impression that the cylinder diameter in the 2ZZ was different along with the stroke, but I am not sure.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227871 Jul 20, 11:49am Jul 20, 11:49am
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No, I personally haven't tried this, but it's been discussed MANY times before (Which you would know if you searched for it)

It simply will not work.


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227872 Jul 20, 11:51am Jul 20, 11:51am
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The Gt and GTS engines aren't even remotely close, the only thing they share is total displacement rolleyes

They are two very different engines.


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227873 Jul 20, 12:00pm Jul 20, 12:00pm
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"The valves will hit the bores and the bore center to center is different IIRC"

From a member on that "other celica site"

It won't work.


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227874 Jul 20, 12:02pm Jul 20, 12:02pm
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More:

"I could go on and on, but the best thing is to do a search. This was taked about at length a couple times.

The short of it was:

a) the bolt patterns do not match up.
b) the cylinders are a different bore
c) the oil delivery system for the GTS head is more complex and needs more stuff then what the 1zz-fe engine has.
d) the CPU is different with different oil pressor sensors and different silonoids. (the 2zz-ge ecu can not run the 1zz-fe block and the 1zz-fe ecu can't run the 2zz-ge head). So you would have to get some after market ecu and program it completely different from both the 1zz and 2zz engines.

You could probably overcome some or maybe all of the issues above, but it would probably be much cheeper and better to put a whole 2zz-ge engine in instead.

The integra GSR can get the type-R head bolted to it because it is the same engine with just a different/reworked head. the 1zz-fe and 2zz-ge are two different engines with two different heads. The bore is different the stroke is different even what the block is cast out of and the cylinder liners are different.

I'm can go on and on and miss 1/2 the stuff, if you really what to know the whole story, find the previous post. I'm not trying to be bitchy or something, it's just that if you really want a good answer find the other post and you'll have it."


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227875 Jul 20, 12:44pm Jul 20, 12:44pm
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How much WHP does the Integra LS motor have.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: ImportRacer] #227876 Jul 20, 12:49pm Jul 20, 12:49pm
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Good enough. I thought the bore was different & that alone would prevent it. The rest of the issues would definately make it unpractical.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227877 Jul 20, 12:57pm Jul 20, 12:57pm
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Finally, you listen when someone posts factual information.

Dear god. rolleyes thumbsdown


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227878 Jul 20, 1:01pm Jul 20, 1:01pm
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Maybe cause its information, not bs

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227879 Jul 20, 1:02pm Jul 20, 1:02pm
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quit the flaming already... thumbsdown

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: renfield90] #227880 Jul 20, 1:06pm Jul 20, 1:06pm
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Telling you the GTS needs premium fuel is not flaming, it's a fact. rolleyes


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227881 Jul 20, 1:09pm Jul 20, 1:09pm
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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227882 Jul 20, 1:10pm Jul 20, 1:10pm
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Wow, you have got to be the most clueless member of ALL TIME. thatsfunny


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227883 Jul 20, 1:12pm Jul 20, 1:12pm
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Telling someone a fact is one thing. Making comments about that someone's "ignorant mind" is another.

That was another thread too. You both got worked up over nothing, but that one's over. Haulin_A_Doo is agreeing with you, no need to tell him off.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: renfield90] #227884 Jul 20, 1:13pm Jul 20, 1:13pm
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All I've ever posted was facts, but he seems to think I'm some sort of retard.

He even made an e-threat asking me to tell him that to his face.

It's sig worthy.


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: DiabloGTS] #227885 Jul 20, 1:14pm Jul 20, 1:14pm
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Where did this guy come from anyways? Jeebus


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: renfield90] #227886 Jul 20, 1:14pm Jul 20, 1:14pm
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If you want to flame each other to no end, go to the off topic forum. stop using up space where we should be answering people's questions.

better yet there's a chat room that's never occupied.

Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: renfield90] #227887 Jul 20, 1:15pm Jul 20, 1:15pm
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All I ever do is answer questions, and Mr. No Clutch is questioning my information.

It's nothing but facts thumbsdown


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: renfield90] #227888 Jul 20, 1:16pm Jul 20, 1:16pm
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I prefer not to flame or be flamed, that's why I am in this part of the forum.

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^^ You tell 'em NOOB laughsilly


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Re: GTS head on a GT block [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #227890 Jul 20, 1:20pm Jul 20, 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
I prefer not to flame or be flamed, that's why I am in this part of the forum.


yet you call me a retard because I insist you have to run premium fuel in a GTS.

What a tool rolleyes

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