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I did it! #225283 Jul 17, 9:24am Jul 17, 9:24am
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I did it!
I traded my A/T GT for a Honda S2000

Never haev I had a car that I liked more than this Honda.


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to let new light in.
Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225284 Jul 17, 9:30am Jul 17, 9:30am
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those are sweet cars! congrats on the trade thumbsup thumbsup

i'll have to settle with my honda s2000 antenna rofl rofl

Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225285 Jul 17, 9:33am Jul 17, 9:33am
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I paid 15 Grand withn the trade in.
I wish I could have gotten more because the Celica only had 7K on it.


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to let new light in.
Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225286 Jul 17, 9:37am Jul 17, 9:37am
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geezum..only 7k miles??

glad you got the honda s2k..it really is the better car and no one here could really argue against that..but with such little mileage on ur celica you got ripped with the trade.

but, alls well that ends well thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225287 Jul 17, 9:39am Jul 17, 9:39am
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I love those small rwd cars, congrats thumbsup


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Re: I did it! [Re: JBing] #225288 Jul 17, 9:56am Jul 17, 9:56am
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Man, I really want one >_< but I dont want to trade the celly for it.

Re: I did it! [Re: shidarin] #225289 Jul 17, 9:58am Jul 17, 9:58am
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i want a z grin

Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225290 Jul 17, 10:29am Jul 17, 10:29am
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^ i want a Z too. I was originally gunna get the s2000 but didn't like the insurance on it.

Re: I did it! [Re: FloydianSlip6] #225291 Jul 17, 10:31am Jul 17, 10:31am
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Re: I did it! [Re: FloydianSlip6] #225292 Jul 17, 10:33am Jul 17, 10:33am
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i not only want a Z but im getting one in december smile smile

its not too expensive if you look at the different trims because all of them have the same engine and thats mainly what most are looking for when getting the Z

mine will come out to 29K for the enthusiast trim thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: R3DLIN3GT] #225293 Jul 17, 10:42am Jul 17, 10:42am
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congrats thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: R3DLIN3GT] #225294 Jul 17, 10:43am Jul 17, 10:43am
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^^ you suck! lol j/k tongue

if i get one..it'll most likely be used due to my budget. gonna stick with the celi for awhile though...i'm buying my gf's '92 honda accord come august or september so 2 cars are enough for now thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225295 Jul 17, 11:05am Jul 17, 11:05am
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thumbsupcongradulations s2000's are amazing cars...but yah why only 7k on your celica?

Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225296 Jul 17, 11:09am Jul 17, 11:09am
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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed

i'll have to settle with my honda s2000 antenna rofl rofl
rofl lollol


congrats thumbsup and if hid's are standard (not sure) you have one of the best projectors for hid's out there thumbsup light output owns over most other stock hid headlamps


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Re: I did it! [Re: Erick] #225297 Jul 17, 11:13am Jul 17, 11:13am
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Re: I did it! [Re: Virgilson] #225298 Jul 17, 11:20am Jul 17, 11:20am
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Re: I did it! [Re: Jtultra] #225299 Jul 17, 12:06pm Jul 17, 12:06pm
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sicc...those cars are wow...i love the yellow on them

Re: I did it! [Re: cycocelica] #225300 Jul 17, 12:11pm Jul 17, 12:11pm
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nice... lets see some pics thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: spaztikid] #225301 Jul 17, 3:04pm Jul 17, 3:04pm
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One thing that amazed me is how primative the interior on those S2000's are. Start looking around at other sports cars and it becomes apparent that Toyota really has awesome ergonomics.

I even sat in a Z06 on the show room floor, looked at the price tag & the interior is complete crap.

Re: I did it! [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225302 Jul 17, 3:10pm Jul 17, 3:10pm
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What year is it? '04?

Re: I did it! [Re: cycocelica] #225303 Jul 17, 3:27pm Jul 17, 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by cycocelica
sicc...those cars are wow...i love the yellow on them


yea..i love those..my neighbor down the street has a yellow one thumbsup


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Re: I did it! [Re: Traviesa86] #225304 Jul 17, 4:26pm Jul 17, 4:26pm
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I'd only trade my celly in for a WRX, a Z or an Evo8. LoL I'm picky... Maybe one of those new Crysler C300, those things look NICE and i hear they're fast! thumbsup

I'm not a hondafan

Re: I did it! [Re: Traviesa86] #225305 Jul 17, 4:27pm Jul 17, 4:27pm
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love that car, but it sick price on it her 80000 us dollar , who you sold your car to since you got so little? thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: oas] #225306 Jul 17, 4:48pm Jul 17, 4:48pm
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bet it looks sweet man.

Re: I did it! [Re: oas] #225307 Jul 17, 4:58pm Jul 17, 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by oas
love that car, but it sick price on it her 80000 us dollar , who you sold your car to since you got so little? thumbsup
wtf


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Re: I did it! [Re: slidr] #225308 Jul 17, 5:43pm Jul 17, 5:43pm
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^^ thats what i was thinking..80k??? more like half that thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225309 Jul 17, 8:06pm Jul 17, 8:06pm
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Come it's an auto Gt that was trade in for an S2000. Of course the trade is was going to be low. That's one of the worst Celicas there is regardless. You my brother or sister just jumped up into the world of a better car, more aftermarket support, and more money. What year was the Honda? Good luck on everything. I love the S2000 by the way. Test drive one people and you won't want to get back in your Celica.

Re: I did it! [Re: hephaestus] #225310 Aug 12, 7:46am Aug 12, 7:46am
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it is a 2004
and I will post pics as soon as I find my camera.

Th Celica only had 7K on it because I bought it new and only had it for about 2 or three months.

I am verry pleased with my trade in becaus the S2000 and the Celica don't even compare. I mean a 240hp 4cylinder, who can beat that and those are factory numbers. The car runs mid 13's to low 14's stock and the tranny is built like a rock so it can handle tremendous power with very few upgrades to it.

Don't get me wrong the celica look way fast but it ran like low 17's stock.

mid 13's beats low 17's any day in my book!


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Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225311 Aug 12, 7:47am Aug 12, 7:47am
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wow, everybody is ditching their celica...

Re: I did it! [Re: ragingpaseo] #225312 Aug 12, 7:49am Aug 12, 7:49am
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Re: I did it! [Re: ragingpaseo] #225313 Aug 12, 8:37am Aug 12, 8:37am
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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
wow, everybody is ditching their celica...
...I'm not...I locve my celica and have gotten in trouble with big power and speed before, plus I have a bunch of money in to my car, and had my engine built so that it will last a really really long time

Re: I did it! [Re: AZZKIKR] #225314 Aug 12, 8:52am Aug 12, 8:52am
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congratulations dude...not a honda fan but who can argue against an s2000 spineyes spineyes spineyes spineyes

Re: I did it! [Re: AZZKIKR] #225315 Aug 12, 8:53am Aug 12, 8:53am
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Originally Posted by AZZKIKR
I'm not...I locve my celica and have gotten in trouble with big power and speed before, plus I have a bunch of money in to my car, and had my engine built so that it will last a really really long time

you better not. it's a 03' plus you just got it back... thumbsup

Re: I did it! [Re: ragingpaseo] #225316 Aug 12, 9:44am Aug 12, 9:44am
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^^^^yeah, aint that the truth...funny part is that I've got an 03, but I've already got over 27,000 miles on it

Re: I did it! [Re: AZZKIKR] #225317 Aug 12, 9:48am Aug 12, 9:48am
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congrat, you are gonna love your new car...
i think webdiva did the same thing, she trade in her gt for s2k and she loves it. oh and did you get 05 or older model?
new s2k redlines lower, but it has more torque. either way its better than celica.

Re: I did it! [Re: Jae] #225318 Aug 12, 10:50am Aug 12, 10:50am
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congrats on the trade... thumbsup

i'd only get rid of my celica for a R32, G35 coupe, or s2000!


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Re: I did it! [Re: bmw52786] #225319 Aug 12, 11:38am Aug 12, 11:38am
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how bad is insurance on those things? also 15g's is a good price...how many miles does the s2k have on it?

Re: I did it! [Re: SkyhighRedline] #225320 Aug 12, 12:47pm Aug 12, 12:47pm
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congratulations. but ur trade in price wasnt too bad man. think about it this way.
for a used gt, they paid 15,000, now they will sell it for 16,000 plus taxes. the cost of the car is gonna be 18 out the door. same as a new one i assume.
how much did you get the s2000 for? 32K?

Re: I did it! [Re: stefanoc] #225321 Aug 12, 1:59pm Aug 12, 1:59pm
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Congrats! thumbsup Enjoy your new ride! Post pics!

Re: I did it! [Re: mister_tin] #225322 Aug 12, 4:19pm Aug 12, 4:19pm
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it is a 04 the newest model out right now. The redline is actually higher than previoud models.
The car had 122 miles on it when I bought it (new). But has 3K on it two weeks later.

Belive it or not my insurance went down about 300 dollars (6 months)it wen from 740 to about 450


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Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225323 Aug 12, 4:26pm Aug 12, 4:26pm
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Re: I did it! [Re: GTS02] #225324 Aug 13, 12:44pm Aug 13, 12:44pm
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I will post pics within the next month because the car is in the middle of upgrades.


The inner battle:
your eyes must be extinguished
to let new light in.
Re: I did it! [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225325 Aug 13, 5:43pm Aug 13, 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
^^ thats what i was thinking..80k??? more like half that thumbsup

we have sick taxes on cars her, the gts cost 54k her thumbsdown

Re: I did it! [Re: oas] #225326 Aug 13, 5:45pm Aug 13, 5:45pm
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54k wtf spineyes


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Re: I did it! [Re: CaLiGTS] #225327 Aug 13, 6:29pm Aug 13, 6:29pm
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if you see pris kr and under t-sport its 414 500kr
an 1 us dollar is 7 kr and that is 59k spineyes

Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225328 Aug 14, 12:10am Aug 14, 12:10am
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Originally Posted by dragonslayer5425
it is a 2004
and I will post pics as soon as I find my camera.

Th Celica only had 7K on it because I bought it new and only had it for about 2 or three months.

I am verry pleased with my trade in becaus the S2000 and the Celica don't even compare. I mean a 240hp 4cylinder, who can beat that and those are factory numbers. The car runs mid 13's to low 14's stock and the tranny is built like a rock so it can handle tremendous power with very few upgrades to it.

Don't get me wrong the celica look way fast but it ran like low 17's stock.

mid 13's beats low 17's any day in my book!


You can't make any power with the F20C without major modification. Bolt-ons and tuning will get you less than 10WHP. It's very difficult to make big power with the S2000 without forced induction or ITBs. But good luck, the S2000 is an amazing car. grin

Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225329 Aug 14, 1:48am Aug 14, 1:48am
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Originally Posted by dragonslayer5425
it is a 04 the newest model out right now. The redline is actually higher than previoud models.
The car had 122 miles on it when I bought it (new). But has 3K on it two weeks later.

Belive it or not my insurance went down about 300 dollars (6 months)it wen from 740 to about 450


the 2004 s2k have lower redline. if you have the same redline (9k) as the previous models, than you might not have the 2004 model. the 2004 s2k's are really nice. there are a lot of rumors going around saying that the 2004 model has more hp as well as more torque. independant test has shown that the 2004 s2k accelerates considerably faster than the previous models. aproximatly .3 secons faster in the 1/4 mile than the previous models. if you have the 2004 s2k, congradulations, i was going to get one too but it didn't happen. enjoy your new car...

Re: I did it! [Re: dragonslayer5425] #225330 Aug 14, 7:40am Aug 14, 7:40am
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yeah, it's weird how you think you'd have to pay higher for a faster car, but the amount you pay is largely based off of (shit i forgot what it's called), and i assume just like the z, the s2k has a higher rating than the celica which sux

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