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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 17, 2:35pm - #225213 
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HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH

Start off in first with the clutch to get you rolling. You can't match 0 MPH. Some cars like an old K-Car I used to own will allow you to start them in gear, so you put it in first & use the starter to get moving. LOL

When it is time to change gears from first to second; use about 1/4 throttle & apply gentle pressure to the stick to pull it out of gear. When you hit the right RPM it will gently release.

Going into second, the same thing. Gently (DO NOT GRIND) apply pressure toward the second gear position & start your RPM's low and work up until it GENTELY falls into gear.

REPEAT

If you do this every day for years you will be able to go from one gear to another just as fast as someone with a clutch.
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Erick022121 Jul 17, 2:37pm - #225214 

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I will just stick with the clutch thumbsup I don't wanna be grindin every gear because i know i can't do that
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Speed4TheNeed Jul 17, 2:57pm - #225215 

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rev matching...if you're good at it then all the merrier.

personally, i prefer to use a clutch even though you have to replace them eventually.

and in racing...a clutch is pretty much essential if you drive a manual thumbsup
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 17, 3:07pm - #225216 
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Quote:
and in racing...a clutch is pretty much essential if you drive a manual thumbsup


There are people out there who can match up just as fast as shift with a clutch.

Once you can drive without one, you will learn how to drive with one more effectively. Most people ride their clutches and don't match up worth a crap, bone heads who don't realize everytime they shift to the next gear without coming close to matching kills their clutch a little more.

Its all about knowing your machine and knowing what you are doing.
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JBing Jul 17, 4:31pm - #225217 

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this thread is retarded rolleyes

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SquadOne Jul 17, 4:53pm - #225218 
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Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes

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RetroJ84 Jul 17, 5:49pm - #225219 
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Originally Posted by SquadOne
Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes

"You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your f------ khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world."
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robare99 Jul 17, 6:43pm - #225220 

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Yeah, ok Mr-drive-your-freakin-skidoo-across-a-freakin-lake-in-the-summer. grin Just kidding. I do this all the time with the truck at work, but not my car. If you ask nicely I'll tell you how to drive on the highway while reading a newspaper.
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spaztikid Jul 17, 7:10pm - #225221 
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Originally Posted by RetroJ84
Originally Posted by SquadOne
Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


i'd rather replace a clutch than a tranny...
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Erick022121 Jul 17, 7:31pm - #225222 

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I would rather not replace anything.. So i guess i wont be driving anymore if its gonna cost money tongue
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Jtultra Jul 17, 8:04pm - #225223 

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lol your retarded

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CaLiGTS Jul 17, 8:16pm - #225224 

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by RetroJ84
Originally Posted by SquadOne
Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


i'd rather replace a clutch than a tranny...



very retarded rolleyes

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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 17, 10:19pm - #225225 
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Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


THEN DON'T CLICK ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 17, 10:30pm - #225226 
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Hey Jeremy, say that to my face and see what you get.
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oas Jul 17, 10:37pm - #225227 
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just buy a manual car with no cluch then !!!
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 17, 10:38pm - #225228 
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Originally Posted by oas
just buy a manual car with no cluch then !!!


No, I bought an automatic. laughsilly
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DiabloGTS Jul 17, 10:54pm - #225229 

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Do that in a celica, and I will laugh when you break it.

Cables snap REAL easy.

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Polykarb Jul 18, 2:58am - #225230 

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haha this thread is:
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FF TWINCAM BEAUTY: CELICA
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Larry_GTS Jul 18, 3:00am - #225231 
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why would you want to do that ? i'm just at a loss here ... thumbsdown thumbsdown
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Live42day Jul 18, 3:06am - #225232 

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Wee-Todded...

Originally posted by RICOGT:
i wanted to get the vac gauge because it constantly moves. more of a race feel i think
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 18, 3:19am - #225233 

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Quote:
and in racing...a clutch is pretty much essential if you drive a manual thumbsup


There are people out there who can match up just as fast as shift with a clutch.

Once you can drive without one, you will learn how to drive with one more effectively. Most people ride their clutches and don't match up worth a crap, bone heads who don't realize everytime they shift to the next gear without coming close to matching kills their clutch a little more.

Its all about knowing your machine and knowing what you are doing. [/quote]

Amen, this is an advanced topic which if mastered will prolong the life of your clutch. It will also make your racing smoother and therefore faster. If you're not that hardcore about racing or not concerned about being a very good driver, you probably won't care and you're probably not that fast. Perfectionists who demand precision out of their driving and their cars make the best racers.

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Virtuous_One Jul 18, 4:30am - #225234 

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WTF!...Is wrong with these posts?... spineyes crazy
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 4:54am - #225235 
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Thank you QTRMLR_1.

Nothing like getting flamed for sharing information. Too bad you guys are ruining this forum. Now I know why most of you are 17, everyone else has left. Probably half the kids in here are just pretending to own a Celica. This is no way to run a forum; where is the moderator? bs
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DiabloGTS Jul 18, 5:02am - #225236 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Thank you QTRMLR_1.

Nothing like getting flamed for sharing information. Too bad you guys are ruining this forum. Now I know why most of you are 17, everyone else has left. Probably half the kids in here are just pretending to own a Celica. This is no way to run a forum; where is the moderator? bs


Where did you come from?

Whatever rock it was you crawled out from, it wants you back.

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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:05am - #225237 
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Yah, okay Pinky Cootiejuice.
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DiabloGTS Jul 18, 5:08am - #225238 

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Bad mouthing members and you want a mod to come help you?

What a way to start off on the site. rolleyes

I suggest you:
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:14am - #225239 
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Read again, and why don't you STFU.
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:17am - #225240 
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OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH I SEEEEEEEEE ... so if a bunch of retards (their words) flame you for no good reason ... we are supposed to roll over and take it in the ass are we? I'm no ones bitch, maybe you like that sort of thing, but not me.
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DiabloGTS Jul 18, 5:21am - #225241 

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Because I'm not the one bashing other members like you are.

The information you posted, while STUPID to do in a Celica with it's already under strength shift-cable transmission, is correct, and your asshole behavior towards other members is not welcomed. 17 year old kids?

Give me a break. rolleyes
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Yah, post after post ... your retarded ... its retarded ... retarded this ... retarded that ... none of them have any idea what they are talking about & yet they still go out of their way to call people retards. But the minute I say something in response, I should be banned. I see. crazy
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DiabloGTS Jul 18, 5:28am - #225243 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Yah, post after post ... your retarded ... its retarded ... retarded this ... retarded that ... none of them have any idea what they are talking about & yet they still go out of their way to call people retards. But the minute I say something in response, I should be banned. I see. crazy


What you posted IS retarded. Do you have any idea what will happen to the Celica if you do this?

I do. It snaps the cable.

Which, would be retarded. Since you stand behind it, that makes you retarded.

No one is flaming YOU, just your retarded idea.

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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:32am - #225244 
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It does not snap the cable, who told you that crap? It applies no more pressure than shifting with a clutch. The ONLY thing that would ever brake the cable is if you ram the bloody thing into each gear.

If someone has half a brain they can challenge the idea and not just insult the person. It's childish.
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FloydianSlip6 Jul 18, 5:34am - #225245 

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Before this gets any uglier. This can actually be very usefull, not so much for daily driving, but in special circumstances, for example, if you need to stop quickly, brakes tend to skid, but being able to slow down with your engine and brake like that will save you distance, of course, you'd need to know what the hell you were doing. As for the member bashing, I'm not getting involved, just pointing out that rev matching is a good skill to know, just not necessarily live by.
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DiabloGTS Jul 18, 5:35am - #225246 

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Yes, it does snap the cable. I'd tell you to go try it, but you don't drive a manual.

I do, and do you know how I broke my shift linkage?

It got pulled out of gear once when someone pulled on it while I was driving. SNAP. Horizontal linkage snapped in the engine bay.

Someone with half a brain would know they put the clutch into the car for a reason. To change gears with, not to be used as a piece of eye candy.

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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:38am - #225247 
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Okay, I guess I should have used more dipomatic terms.

By not moderating your forum and keeping order, your demographics have changed dramatically. You have either lost or failed to attract the adult crowd to this forum. This works well if you want a forum with a lot of smack talking and very little useful information.
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FloydianSlip6 Jul 18, 5:41am - #225248 

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Something else to take into account, different cars trannys can handle different loads, the celica tranny isn't the hardest nosed tranny there is. However, the principle in certain situations is valid.
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:42am - #225249 
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS

It got pulled out of gear once when someone pulled on it while I was driving. SNAP. Horizontal linkage snapped in the engine bay.


Yah, that is quite possible. If you don't rev match it takes a LOT of pressure to pull it out of gear. That's what broke it! If you rev match & apply what truckers call two finger pressure, it will come out real easy & same going in.

You may not understand this stuff, but I do. I have owned many manual cars including Toyotas & it worked fine on all of them.
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FloydianSlip6 Jul 18, 5:43am - #225250 

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Okay, I guess I should have used more dipomatic terms.

By not moderating your forum and keeping order, your demographics have changed dramatically. You have either lost or failed to attract the adult crowd to this forum. This works well if you want a forum with a lot of smack talking and very little useful information.


<drops defensive stance and assumes the lurking position>
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Haulin_A_Doo Jul 18, 5:46am - #225251 
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Yanking the stick out of gear hard without matching your RPMS's is like shifting from Park to Drive without inserting the key. The linkage was broken because it was forced.
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QTRMLR_1 Jul 18, 7:01am - #225252 

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...couldn't be right on the money any more than that. It doesn't matter how old you are...being intolerant of other's ideas and calling them 'retarded' whether right or wrong is the wrong way to communicate in a forum of open dialogue. You can ask questions and disagree but to simply label something or someone "retarded" is unacceptable. It's all about treating people with respect. Not that it matters, BTW, he also happens to be right.

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Steven Jul 18, 9:13am - #225253 
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