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HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH #225213 Jul 17, 7:35am Jul 17, 7:35am
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HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH
Start off in first with the clutch to get you rolling. You can't match 0 MPH. Some cars like an old K-Car I used to own will allow you to start them in gear, so you put it in first & use the starter to get moving. LOL

When it is time to change gears from first to second; use about 1/4 throttle & apply gentle pressure to the stick to pull it out of gear. When you hit the right RPM it will gently release.

Going into second, the same thing. Gently (DO NOT GRIND) apply pressure toward the second gear position & start your RPM's low and work up until it GENTELY falls into gear.

REPEAT

If you do this every day for years you will be able to go from one gear to another just as fast as someone with a clutch.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225214 Jul 17, 7:37am Jul 17, 7:37am
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I will just stick with the clutch thumbsup I don't wanna be grindin every gear because i know i can't do that

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Erick022121] #225215 Jul 17, 7:57am Jul 17, 7:57am
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rev matching...if you're good at it then all the merrier.

personally, i prefer to use a clutch even though you have to replace them eventually.

and in racing...a clutch is pretty much essential if you drive a manual thumbsup

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #225216 Jul 17, 8:07am Jul 17, 8:07am
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and in racing...a clutch is pretty much essential if you drive a manual thumbsup


There are people out there who can match up just as fast as shift with a clutch.

Once you can drive without one, you will learn how to drive with one more effectively. Most people ride their clutches and don't match up worth a crap, bone heads who don't realize everytime they shift to the next gear without coming close to matching kills their clutch a little more.

Its all about knowing your machine and knowing what you are doing.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225217 Jul 17, 9:31am Jul 17, 9:31am
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this thread is retarded rolleyes


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: JBing] #225218 Jul 17, 9:53am Jul 17, 9:53am
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Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: SquadOne] #225219 Jul 17, 10:49am Jul 17, 10:49am
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Originally Posted by SquadOne
Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


"You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your f------ khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world."
Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: RetroJ84] #225220 Jul 17, 11:43am Jul 17, 11:43am
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Yeah, ok Mr-drive-your-freakin-skidoo-across-a-freakin-lake-in-the-summer. grin Just kidding. I do this all the time with the truck at work, but not my car. If you ask nicely I'll tell you how to drive on the highway while reading a newspaper.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: RetroJ84] #225221 Jul 17, 12:10pm Jul 17, 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by RetroJ84
Originally Posted by SquadOne
Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


i'd rather replace a clutch than a tranny...

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: spaztikid] #225222 Jul 17, 12:31pm Jul 17, 12:31pm
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I would rather not replace anything.. So i guess i wont be driving anymore if its gonna cost money tongue

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Erick022121] #225223 Jul 17, 1:04pm Jul 17, 1:04pm
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lol your retarded


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: spaztikid] #225224 Jul 17, 1:16pm Jul 17, 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by RetroJ84
Originally Posted by SquadOne
Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


i'd rather replace a clutch than a tranny...



very retarded rolleyes


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: JBing] #225225 Jul 17, 3:19pm Jul 17, 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by JBing
this thread is retarded rolleyes


THEN DON'T CLICK ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225226 Jul 17, 3:30pm Jul 17, 3:30pm
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Hey Jeremy, say that to my face and see what you get.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225227 Jul 17, 3:37pm Jul 17, 3:37pm
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just buy a manual car with no cluch then !!!

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: oas] #225228 Jul 17, 3:38pm Jul 17, 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by oas
just buy a manual car with no cluch then !!!


No, I bought an automatic. laughsilly

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225229 Jul 17, 3:54pm Jul 17, 3:54pm
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Do that in a celica, and I will laugh when you break it.

Cables snap REAL easy.


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: DiabloGTS] #225230 Jul 17, 7:58pm Jul 17, 7:58pm
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haha this thread is:

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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Polykarb] #225231 Jul 17, 8:00pm Jul 17, 8:00pm
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why would you want to do that ? i'm just at a loss here ... thumbsdown thumbsdown

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Larry_GTS] #225232 Jul 17, 8:06pm Jul 17, 8:06pm
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Originally posted by RICOGT:
i wanted to get the vac gauge because it constantly moves. more of a race feel i think
Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225233 Jul 17, 8:19pm Jul 17, 8:19pm
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Quote:
and in racing...a clutch is pretty much essential if you drive a manual thumbsup


There are people out there who can match up just as fast as shift with a clutch.

Once you can drive without one, you will learn how to drive with one more effectively. Most people ride their clutches and don't match up worth a crap, bone heads who don't realize everytime they shift to the next gear without coming close to matching kills their clutch a little more.

Its all about knowing your machine and knowing what you are doing. [/quote]

Amen, this is an advanced topic which if mastered will prolong the life of your clutch. It will also make your racing smoother and therefore faster. If you're not that hardcore about racing or not concerned about being a very good driver, you probably won't care and you're probably not that fast. Perfectionists who demand precision out of their driving and their cars make the best racers.


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225234 Jul 17, 9:30pm Jul 17, 9:30pm
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WTF!...Is wrong with these posts?... spineyes crazy

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Virtuous_One] #225235 Jul 17, 9:54pm Jul 17, 9:54pm
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Thank you QTRMLR_1.

Nothing like getting flamed for sharing information. Too bad you guys are ruining this forum. Now I know why most of you are 17, everyone else has left. Probably half the kids in here are just pretending to own a Celica. This is no way to run a forum; where is the moderator? bs

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225236 Jul 17, 10:02pm Jul 17, 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Thank you QTRMLR_1.

Nothing like getting flamed for sharing information. Too bad you guys are ruining this forum. Now I know why most of you are 17, everyone else has left. Probably half the kids in here are just pretending to own a Celica. This is no way to run a forum; where is the moderator? bs


Where did you come from?

Whatever rock it was you crawled out from, it wants you back.


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: DiabloGTS] #225237 Jul 17, 10:05pm Jul 17, 10:05pm
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Yah, okay Pinky Cootiejuice.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225238 Jul 17, 10:08pm Jul 17, 10:08pm
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Bad mouthing members and you want a mod to come help you?

What a way to start off on the site. rolleyes

I suggest you:

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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: DiabloGTS] #225239 Jul 17, 10:14pm Jul 17, 10:14pm
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Read again, and why don't you STFU.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225240 Jul 17, 10:17pm Jul 17, 10:17pm
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OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH I SEEEEEEEEE ... so if a bunch of retards (their words) flame you for no good reason ... we are supposed to roll over and take it in the ass are we? I'm no ones bitch, maybe you like that sort of thing, but not me.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225241 Jul 17, 10:21pm Jul 17, 10:21pm
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Because I'm not the one bashing other members like you are.

The information you posted, while STUPID to do in a Celica with it's already under strength shift-cable transmission, is correct, and your asshole behavior towards other members is not welcomed. 17 year old kids?

Give me a break. rolleyes

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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: DiabloGTS] #225242 Jul 17, 10:25pm Jul 17, 10:25pm
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Yah, post after post ... your retarded ... its retarded ... retarded this ... retarded that ... none of them have any idea what they are talking about & yet they still go out of their way to call people retards. But the minute I say something in response, I should be banned. I see. crazy

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225243 Jul 17, 10:28pm Jul 17, 10:28pm
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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Yah, post after post ... your retarded ... its retarded ... retarded this ... retarded that ... none of them have any idea what they are talking about & yet they still go out of their way to call people retards. But the minute I say something in response, I should be banned. I see. crazy


What you posted IS retarded. Do you have any idea what will happen to the Celica if you do this?

I do. It snaps the cable.

Which, would be retarded. Since you stand behind it, that makes you retarded.

No one is flaming YOU, just your retarded idea.


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Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: DiabloGTS] #225244 Jul 17, 10:32pm Jul 17, 10:32pm
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It does not snap the cable, who told you that crap? It applies no more pressure than shifting with a clutch. The ONLY thing that would ever brake the cable is if you ram the bloody thing into each gear.

If someone has half a brain they can challenge the idea and not just insult the person. It's childish.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225245 Jul 17, 10:34pm Jul 17, 10:34pm
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Before this gets any uglier. This can actually be very usefull, not so much for daily driving, but in special circumstances, for example, if you need to stop quickly, brakes tend to skid, but being able to slow down with your engine and brake like that will save you distance, of course, you'd need to know what the hell you were doing. As for the member bashing, I'm not getting involved, just pointing out that rev matching is a good skill to know, just not necessarily live by.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225246 Jul 17, 10:35pm Jul 17, 10:35pm
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Yes, it does snap the cable. I'd tell you to go try it, but you don't drive a manual.

I do, and do you know how I broke my shift linkage?

It got pulled out of gear once when someone pulled on it while I was driving. SNAP. Horizontal linkage snapped in the engine bay.

Someone with half a brain would know they put the clutch into the car for a reason. To change gears with, not to be used as a piece of eye candy.


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Okay, I guess I should have used more dipomatic terms.

By not moderating your forum and keeping order, your demographics have changed dramatically. You have either lost or failed to attract the adult crowd to this forum. This works well if you want a forum with a lot of smack talking and very little useful information.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: DiabloGTS] #225248 Jul 17, 10:41pm Jul 17, 10:41pm
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Something else to take into account, different cars trannys can handle different loads, the celica tranny isn't the hardest nosed tranny there is. However, the principle in certain situations is valid.

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS

It got pulled out of gear once when someone pulled on it while I was driving. SNAP. Horizontal linkage snapped in the engine bay.


Yah, that is quite possible. If you don't rev match it takes a LOT of pressure to pull it out of gear. That's what broke it! If you rev match & apply what truckers call two finger pressure, it will come out real easy & same going in.

You may not understand this stuff, but I do. I have owned many manual cars including Toyotas & it worked fine on all of them.

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Okay, I guess I should have used more dipomatic terms.

By not moderating your forum and keeping order, your demographics have changed dramatically. You have either lost or failed to attract the adult crowd to this forum. This works well if you want a forum with a lot of smack talking and very little useful information.


<drops defensive stance and assumes the lurking position>

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: FloydianSlip6] #225251 Jul 17, 10:46pm Jul 17, 10:46pm
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Yanking the stick out of gear hard without matching your RPMS's is like shifting from Park to Drive without inserting the key. The linkage was broken because it was forced.

Re: HOW TO DRIVE STANDARD WITHOUT A CLUTCH [Re: Haulin_A_Doo] #225252 Jul 18, 12:01am Jul 18, 12:01am
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...couldn't be right on the money any more than that. It doesn't matter how old you are...being intolerant of other's ideas and calling them 'retarded' whether right or wrong is the wrong way to communicate in a forum of open dialogue. You can ask questions and disagree but to simply label something or someone "retarded" is unacceptable. It's all about treating people with respect. Not that it matters, BTW, he also happens to be right.


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