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Jul 15, 7:44pm - #223977 
TRD kazuma = too loud and no power gain!

sup guys,
i got my kazuma 1 month ago, I think it's too loud , and i hardly feel any hp boast, is there a way to silence it?
is there anything i can do without getting a new exhaust?? cry cry

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Jul 15, 7:46pm - #223978 
its a straight pipe, its meant for racing only, not gains or being quiet. You got what ya ordered IMO

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Jul 15, 7:47pm - #223979 
doesn't it come with silencer?
well i heard even with the silencer its still too loud
there is silencer for your pip. it goes between your header and beginning part of your exhaust
its a three layer suppression and supposely it doesn't hurt at hp. And its suppose to get it down to 10 -5 decibels
i forgot what the website is called. But try to look for that

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Jul 15, 7:47pm - #223980 
yea dude, get TSRM if you want something legal and realll nice


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Jul 15, 7:54pm - #223982 
dont you have to get like PowerFC or something?? confused cause the gains from the Kazuma are after a ECU is tunned to it

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Jul 15, 7:58pm - #223983 
there is no question about the fact that kazuma makes WAY more hp gains than any other exhaust. thats a fact...if you want it quieter then you can put in your stock resonator, ive been thinking about doin this


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Jul 15, 10:05pm - #223984 
Originally Posted by ioric18
sup guys,
i got my kazuma 1 month ago, I think it's too loud , and i hardly feel any hp boast, is there a way to silence it?
is there anything i can do without getting a new exhaust?? cry cry


what did you have before the Kazuma. yes, there is a way to silence it: have someone weld in Arospeed's exhaust control valve after the downpipe but before the 1st O2 sensor.


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Jul 15, 10:06pm - #223985 
I bet my muffler after the cat converter was louder than your kazuma.


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Jul 15, 11:14pm - #223986 
After the ECU is tunned to it how much power does the add.?

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Jul 16, 1:00am - #223987 
not even a stock resonator will change the sound...no use


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Jul 16, 1:21am - #223988 
Originally Posted by ImportRacer
After the ECU is tunned to it how much power does the add.?

it gives you 20hp gain with a tunned ECU, thats what toyota says, i may be wrong, so anyone can feel free to correct me

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Jul 16, 1:48am - #223989 
Dude, you've been warned that it's too freaking loud for street use & you only feel the hp gain in the high rmp range, which you're never in if you're driving from point A to point B on the street. You got what you paid for.

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Jul 16, 2:15am - #223990 
Yeh, sell it and get a TRD or Tanabe thumbsup

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Jul 16, 2:17am - #223991 
go to the track and you'l be happy that you got the kazuma


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Jul 16, 2:19am - #223992 
i say take it to the track and see what you can do...cuz thats not street exhaust..its a race exhaust thumbsup


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Jul 16, 2:20am - #223993 
Originally Posted by NorwayGT

go to the track and you'l be happy that you got the kazuma


dang..you just barely beat me tongue


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Jul 16, 5:27am - #223994 
reset the ECU to see the gains.


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Jul 16, 6:46am - #223995 
with kazuma you will only feel the goins up high

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Jul 16, 8:25am - #223996 
OK so wait a minute I'm about a week away from ordering my Kazuma. I have the HKS hyper exhaust. If is witch to the Kazuma will I feel less power than my current exhaust at low RPM's?
Or will it feel the same and just get even more powerful at higher RPM's?


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Jul 16, 4:53pm - #223997 
eek , thanks for all the great replies,
so if i get my ECU tuned, i will get the hp that i 'deserved'?? hhhmmm...
never heard of it, maybe because i'm a nerd...
so, how do i get my ECU reset??

Originally Posted by GTSHYPR
OK so wait a minute I'm about a week away from ordering my Kazuma. I have the HKS hyper exhaust. If is witch to the Kazuma will I feel less power than my current exhaust at low RPM's?
Or will it feel the same and just get even more powerful at higher RPM's?


yes, you can feel the hp gain when you're at higher RPM's,
i was curious and thought that too loud is never too loud , so i bought the kazuma despite the kind words from these helpful guys.
think twice...

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Jul 16, 5:21pm - #223998 
get TRD thumbsup


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Jul 16, 5:24pm - #223999 
Originally Posted by clockwork
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
go to the track and you'l be happy that you got the kazuma


dang..you just barely beat me tongue

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Jul 16, 5:28pm - #224000 
1. The kazuma does provide better gains than any exhaust on the market.

2. You are generally not going to feel most mods. I just put on my TRD Extended exhaust, and I felt nothing. It's hard to feel 5 horsepower or so. I still think it's funny when people say they feel more power after they install alternator pulleys or grounding wires. Seems to be a case of mind over matter.

3. What the hell did you expect buying an exhaust with no resonator? To anyone else who is considering buying a kazuma, just unbolt your exhaust at the rear axle, and drive around like that for a day or so and see if you like it or not. Should be just as loud as the kazuma.


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Jul 16, 6:45pm - #224001 
i got a hole in my TRD. (stupid weld problem) and it is loud as all hell. which is awsome but it sounds real rice so i want kazuma


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Jul 17, 1:49am - #224002 
to reset ECU just take the wires off from the battery for i dont know... 5-15 min confused





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Jul 17, 6:02am - #224003 
Originally Posted by slidr
1. The kazuma does provide better gains than any exhaust on the market.

2. You are generally not going to feel most mods. I just put on my TRD Extended exhaust, and I felt nothing. It's hard to feel 5 horsepower or so. I still think it's funny when people say they feel more power after they install alternator pulleys or grounding wires. Seems to be a case of mind over matter.

3. What the hell did you expect buying an exhaust with no resonator? To anyone else who is considering buying a kazuma, just unbolt your exhaust at the rear axle, and drive around like that for a day or so and see if you like it or not. Should be just as loud as the kazuma.


ditto..kazuma is the best exhaust for power gains (unless you get custom piping that has a larger diameter when you start using forced induction or nitrous).

there is a silencer you can purchase..although some people have said it doesn't work well.

the kazuma exhaust is the only true cat-back exhaust available in retail and it has no muffler so airflow is not hindered as much (and also why it is so loud and why the gains are larger than in any other exhaust)

the kazuma exhaust IS emissions legal, it is NOT sound legal. when used with a silencer, it therefore becomes legal..but also ur gains are reduced to close to stock. thumbsup

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Jul 17, 12:16pm - #224004 
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Jul 17, 12:23pm - #224005 
im so glad i got TSRM!!!

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Jul 17, 12:25pm - #224006 
Yeah i had the kazuma and i couldnt take it.. so i got a magnaflow cat, res, and muffler just welded into the TRD pipe, so i sill have the tip and most TRD piping. Now it sounds perfect, probably not much gains but it sounds perfect!

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Jul 17, 5:41pm - #224007 
i'm actually considerring kazuma..either that or TRD extended.

and i wouldnt be considerring it if it wasnt for a guy in a celica at the car show i just attended who had kazuma..i LOVED it to say the least thumbsup

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Jul 17, 5:52pm - #224008 
Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
i'm actually considerring kazuma..either that or TRD extended.

and i wouldnt be considerring it if it wasnt for a guy in a celica at the car show i just attended who had kazuma..i LOVED it to say the least thumbsup

yup it did sound great but i will see if you get a ticket b4 i get it rofl


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Jul 17, 6:01pm - #224009 
^^ lol, with my luck i'll rack up 10 of them before i can get a chance to get it off. but if you bought it you'd ride around for years before you even got pulled over rofl

just like with tint...i'm not even going to try and be like you because i KNOW i'd get some tix spineyes

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Jul 17, 6:12pm - #224010 
Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed

^^ lol, with my luck i'll rack up 10 of them before i can get a chance to get it off. but if you bought it you'd ride around for years before you even got pulled over rofl

just like with tint...i'm not even going to try and be like you because i KNOW i'd get some tix spineyes


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Jul 17, 8:20pm - #224011 
I didn't even read any of the replies and I will say this to all. If you can feel 5, 10, or even 15 WHP then you are part of the Matrix. The worst things I heard were about AEM pullies and ground kits "making a difference". What a joke on those and a waste of money unless every single HP needs to be added up for a race engine and race car. The Kazuma does in fact make more HP. It can't be silenced. Either live with the better gain and noise or get rid of it for something more civilized with some less HP.

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Jul 17, 8:42pm - #224012 
peeps can get drunk on water and lose hair becuase they fhing they are going on canser medication so way shuddent they feel the hp gaint after an engen upgrade spineyes

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Jul 17, 8:54pm - #224013 
^^what was that again?


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Jul 18, 12:20pm - #224014 
Originally Posted by hephaestus
I didn't even read any of the replies and I will say this to all. If you can feel 5, 10, or even 15 WHP then you are part of the Matrix. The worst things I heard were about AEM pullies and ground kits "making a difference". What a joke on those and a waste of money unless every single HP needs to be added up for a race engine and race car. The Kazuma does in fact make more HP. It can't be silenced. Either live with the better gain and noise or get rid of it for something more civilized with some less HP.


i'll agree with you on the 5 horsepower. 10 horsepower you should be able to feel (depending on how gradual it is) and you should definately feel 15 whp easy (again...if the 15 whp is spread out over the entire rpm band then you most likely won't be able to feel it...but 15 whp over the course of 2k rpms is definately something anyone should be able to feel. thumbsup

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Jul 18, 2:12pm - #224015 
Screw the sound I'm getting it anyways.

I do have a few questions about the welding though. I pretty sure that the Celi has 2 resonators on the stock exhaust shoudl I have them welded on to the Kazuma pipe?
And if so how will it change the hp.?


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Jul 21, 11:36am - #224016 
Anyone???


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Jul 21, 11:58am - #224017 
Originally Posted by GTSHYPR

Screw the sound I'm getting it anyways.

I do have a few questions about the welding though. I pretty sure that the Celi has 2 resonators on the stock exhaust shoudl I have them welded on to the Kazuma pipe?
And if so how will it change the hp.?
If you weld resonators onto the Kazuma, then you might as well just buy the TRD exhaust, because it's gonna be almost the same thing. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to weld two resonators onto a straight pipe without somehow changing the direction of the pipe by welding more pipe on, unless you want to weld on custom resonators, because the stock ones will not fit on a straight pipe without modification.


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Jul 21, 12:03pm - #224018 
Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed

Originally Posted by slidr

1. The kazuma does provide better gains than any exhaust on the market.

2. You are generally not going to feel most mods. I just put on my TRD Extended exhaust, and I felt nothing. It's hard to feel 5 horsepower or so. I still think it's funny when people say they feel more power after they install alternator pulleys or grounding wires. Seems to be a case of mind over matter.

3. What the hell did you expect buying an exhaust with no resonator? To anyone else who is considering buying a kazuma, just unbolt your exhaust at the rear axle, and drive around like that for a day or so and see if you like it or not. Should be just as loud as the kazuma.


ditto..kazuma is the best exhaust for power gains (unless you get custom piping that has a larger diameter when you start using forced induction or nitrous).

there is a silencer you can purchase..although some people have said it doesn't work well.

the kazuma exhaust is the only true cat-back exhaust available in retail and it has no muffler so airflow is not hindered as much (and also why it is so loud and why the gains are larger than in any other exhaust)

the kazuma exhaust IS emissions legal, it is NOT sound legal. when used with a silencer, it therefore becomes legal..but also ur gains are reduced to close to stock. thumbsup


When equipped with a silencer, it is still not legal.

Took this from Missouri (where I live) state law, and it should be similiar around the country...

2. Muffler cutouts: Muffler cutouts shall not be used and no vehicle shall be driven in such manner or condition that excessive and unnecessary noises shall be made by its machinery, motor, signaling device, or other parts, or by any improperly loaded cargo. The motors of all motor vehicles shall be fitted with properly attached mufflers of such capacity or construction as to quiet the maximum possible exhaust noise as completely as is done in modern gas engine passenger motor vehicles. Any cutout or opening in the exhaust pipe between the motor and the muffler on any motor vehicle shall be completely closed and disconnected from its operating lever, and shall be so arranged that it cannot automatically open, or be opened or operated while such vehicle is in motion.



As you can see, a vehicle without a muffler (resonator) equipped is not street legal. Even if the vehicle was legal, with the silencer, the kazuma is no where close to being legal sound-wise.


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Jul 21, 1:35pm - #224019 
Get the TRD if you want Hp and noise control..I had the Kazuma and sold it to get the TRD


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Jul 22, 9:25am - #224020 
I have the kazuma and i love it. To me its not loud enough. I've had it for about 2 months and no tickets. Had a few cops look at me funny but that was when i was in lift.

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Aug 10, 7:28pm - #224021 
thanks for all the great feed back wave,
but I don't think I've got my answer yet. confused
OK, back to the topic,
what is the best way to silence my kazuma?
If I reset my ECU, I will get more power gain?
if so, how do I do that?

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Aug 10, 7:45pm - #224022 
It's a good idea to reset your ECU after any mod you install that adds horsepower.

You can either disconnect the negative battery terminal for five minutes or so, or pull the ECU fuse.


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