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custom dual exauhst #222966 Jul 15, 6:21am Jul 15, 6:21am
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custom dual exauhst
here are some pictures, i initially did this install on monday. the piping looked good but because of the long tubing after the muffler i was being robbed of sound and most importantly power. i was going to post pics up yesterday but everythingcelica.com was down so here i am posting pics of what this system looked like on monday and up until tuesdayafternoon. I jacked my car up and got to cutting w/ a grinder the piping from the exit of the exauhst up till the y bend in the piping. i dont know if the bends was what was killing the power but i felt so stupid paying money to lose power. so the sound is coming from the middle of the car which in all reality sounnds real nice!!!! i get a real deep roar w/ no rice sound and i actually feel the car a little bit quicker than before. tell me what you guys think, i know its kinda wierd to have both of the pipes coming out of the back be dummie pipes for now. later on i plan on getting a muffler that fits this setup better. i just gotta do my hw on what to buy. for now though i am happy with this setup, looks real nice from behind.

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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222967 Jul 15, 6:22am Jul 15, 6:22am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222968 Jul 15, 6:24am Jul 15, 6:24am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222969 Jul 15, 6:25am Jul 15, 6:25am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222970 Jul 15, 6:26am Jul 15, 6:26am
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wow those are some rough lookin welds eek eek

Sorry but i'm not a fan...whatever ya like thumbsup

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222971 Jul 15, 6:28am Jul 15, 6:28am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222972 Jul 15, 6:36am Jul 15, 6:36am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: booyaolian] #222973 Jul 15, 7:57am Jul 15, 7:57am
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Not a very clean install... also we need to get you some paint for that rear bumper.


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: GraSSRooTs] #222974 Jul 15, 8:13am Jul 15, 8:13am
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Not a good job or idea thumbsdown sorry man


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: JSPITZ] #222975 Jul 15, 8:56am Jul 15, 8:56am
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not feeling it but I'm glad you were pleased with the outcome...

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Sultan] #222976 Jul 15, 8:58am Jul 15, 8:58am
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Throw some tips on those pipes...by themselves they look like crap IMO


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: UFCELI] #222977 Jul 15, 9:05am Jul 15, 9:05am
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yah needs some tips thumbsup


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Erick] #222978 Jul 15, 9:10am Jul 15, 9:10am
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tips are on the way... caron fiber w/ chrome edge...didnt see anything i liked at the muffler shop, but they are defenitly getting put on soon.

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222979 Jul 15, 9:13am Jul 15, 9:13am
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what do you guys think about these tips

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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222980 Jul 15, 10:52am Jul 15, 10:52am
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did you dyno your car before putting that on?

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: xXMaGNuSXx] #222981 Jul 15, 10:56am Jul 15, 10:56am
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sorry but looks a little puke


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: CaLiGTS] #222982 Jul 15, 11:22am Jul 15, 11:22am
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no i didnt dyno it, i want to but i havnt looked into shops that do that stuff, and i dont know how much it runs. but i definitly do feel a difference in power before i did anything, after the welding and now that i took the grinder to the bends and let the exauhst come out from the middle it feels quicker than ever thumbsup

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222983 Jul 15, 12:39pm Jul 15, 12:39pm
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nice job with the rear valance & bumper. need a tip or somthing...

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: ragingpaseo] #222984 Jul 15, 12:48pm Jul 15, 12:48pm
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You got crushed bent? frown

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: ragingpaseo] #222985 Jul 15, 12:51pm Jul 15, 12:51pm
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Those are some pretty sh*tty welds they did.

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: v3n0m] #222986 Jul 15, 12:55pm Jul 15, 12:55pm
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OMG those welds are horrible!!!!!!!!! thumbsdown

Should look like a roll of laid out dimes.

thumbsdown thumbsdown thumbsdown Horrible job, horrible idea. thumbsdown thumbsdown

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: UFCELI] #222987 Jul 15, 2:14pm Jul 15, 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by UFCELI
Throw some tips on those pipes...by themselves they look like crap IMO

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Gen7fan] #222988 Jul 15, 2:17pm Jul 15, 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
OMG those welds are horrible!!!!!!!!! thumbsdown

Should look like a roll of laid out dimes.

thumbsdown thumbsdown thumbsdown Horrible job, horrible idea. thumbsdown thumbsdown



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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: CaLiGTS] #222989 Jul 15, 3:08pm Jul 15, 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by CaLiGTS

Originally Posted by Gen7fan

OMG those welds are horrible!!!!!!!!! thumbsdown

Should look like a roll of laid out dimes.

thumbsdown thumbsdown thumbsdown Horrible job, horrible idea. thumbsdown thumbsdown



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
I like ur attitude gen7fan


yeah well some people like duals some dont, for example your Altezza lights... thumbsdown but im sure you like em...i asked for everyones opinion..so i respect it, and i do agree that i need some tips, oh and cali gts.. how about posting some pics of the kaminari kit your profile says that your celi is sporting

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: v3n0m] #222990 Jul 15, 3:35pm Jul 15, 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by v3n0m
Those are some pretty sh*tty welds they did.


hey be nice... anyways...i dont like it...it needs tips and the v3n0m is right...the welds are not that great...but if you are happy then...YAY

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: cycocelica] #222991 Jul 15, 4:03pm Jul 15, 4:03pm
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well who cares how the welds look, its under the car... not really a place where looks are the most important. under the car all i really care about is whether it works or not. and em about the tips no one has even looked at my question ...
what do you guys think about these

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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222992 Jul 15, 4:08pm Jul 15, 4:08pm
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Those are okay, but what about something like this..

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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222993 Jul 15, 4:10pm Jul 15, 4:10pm
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crush bent = thumbsdown bad exhaust flow
shitty welds = thumbsdown bad exhaust flow
dual exhaust = thumbsdown HP LOSS
unpainted bumper = rice thumbsdown


shoulda gotten TSRM, TRD, or some well known exhaust that ADDS hp, and looks good


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: NorwayGT] #222994 Jul 15, 4:35pm Jul 15, 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
crush bent = thumbsdown bad exhaust flow
shitty welds = thumbsdown bad exhaust flow
dual exhaust = thumbsdown HP LOSS
unpainted bumper = rice thumbsdown


He's right you know, that rough welding and the crush bends are doing NOTHING for your exhaust flow- neither is having the muffler so far removed. Definetly needs some tips, but I would have just gone dual muffler. That split point is causing major backpressure probably- and backpressure AFTER the muffler is a very bad idea.

Dual Exhaust does not cause HP loss in theory. What it can lead to is a lack of pressure needed for gas scavenging to take place, which can lead to the celica feeling bogged down low in the RPMs.

Done right, dual exhaust presents the car with the ability to handle a large amount of exhaust gases with minimal loss in gas scavenging pressure- unfortunately, problems like bad welds, too many bends, piping circumference not calculated before and after the split point; all these things add up to duals, more often that not, stealing hp away from a car than giving it. Finally, a 4 banger usually doesn't generate the sheer volume of gas pressure needed to make dual exhaust a really viable option.

Also, because the nature of dual exhaust system is that it's usually not done by professionals, you get more exhaust gases coming out of pipe than the other. THis looks really shitty at night and it's usually because the pipe is split after the tail box, so the gas is forced down one or the other channel (again, possibly increased by crushed bends or crummy welding). And again, because it's a none professional job, the pipes are going to be of different lengths, so it will take longer to come out of one pipe.

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222995 Jul 16, 1:00am Jul 16, 1:00am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: morris] #222996 Jul 16, 1:08am Jul 16, 1:08am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hkysk8r86] #222997 Jul 16, 2:28am Jul 16, 2:28am
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dude... if its for show and you like it...then its all good,if your goin for Performance..then you need to try something different thumbsup


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: shidarin] #222998 Jul 16, 8:20am Jul 16, 8:20am
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Originally Posted by shidarin
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
crush bent = thumbsdown bad exhaust flow
shitty welds = thumbsdown bad exhaust flow
dual exhaust = thumbsdown HP LOSS
unpainted bumper = rice thumbsdown


He's right you know, that rough welding and the crush bends are doing NOTHING for your exhaust flow- neither is having the muffler so far removed. Definetly needs some tips, but I would have just gone dual muffler. That split point is causing major backpressure probably- and backpressure AFTER the muffler is a very bad idea.

Dual Exhaust does not cause HP loss in theory. What it can lead to is a lack of pressure needed for gas scavenging to take place, which can lead to the celica feeling bogged down low in the RPMs.

Done right, dual exhaust presents the car with the ability to handle a large amount of exhaust gases with minimal loss in gas scavenging pressure- unfortunately, problems like bad welds, too many bends, piping circumference not calculated before and after the split point; all these things add up to duals, more often that not, stealing hp away from a car than giving it. Finally, a 4 banger usually doesn't generate the sheer volume of gas pressure needed to make dual exhaust a really viable option.

Also, because the nature of dual exhaust system is that it's usually not done by professionals, you get more exhaust gases coming out of pipe than the other. THis looks really shitty at night and it's usually because the pipe is split after the tail box, so the gas is forced down one or the other channel (again, possibly increased by crushed bends or crummy welding). And again, because it's a none professional job, the pipes are going to be of different lengths, so it will take longer to come out of one pipe.



i agree totally, i think i wrote something in about loss of power because of the bends and added piping after the work done to the exauhst. i dont think anyone read it. any wayz, i jacked the car up @ home because i was killing myself because i lost power and took a grinder to the pipes. i cut the piping from the exit of the muffler to the begining of the "y" split. and now the exauhst is louder than before (or maybe its just because its closer to me) and i feel that there is more throttle response even than before i did any of this dual exauhst stuff. it sounds nice now, but i am still going to see what the best way to do this duals would be... it kind of seems like morris has the best idea, so all i would need to do is buy 2 little tin cans and stick em at each exit...and about the bumper...i know its rice but then again, little by little its all gonna work out.

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #222999 Jul 16, 8:31am Jul 16, 8:31am
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Originally Posted by hector


i agree totally, i think i wrote something in about loss of power because of the bends and added piping after the work done to the exauhst. i dont think anyone read it...



I read it happywink so long your happy and you know what the end result in Performance is its all that matters. and shidarin did a nice write up.. always very informative posts goodjob


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Erick] #223000 Jul 16, 1:36pm Jul 16, 1:36pm
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Those are the worst welds ever. Don't like the dual exhaust idea either, lil' 4 bangers don't need it. I don't like Altezza lights either, so you can't talk crap to me smile

If you're happy with it, I'm happy for you, and I'm sure it'll look pretty cool once you get those tips on.


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Snafu] #223001 Jul 16, 3:18pm Jul 16, 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by Snafu
Those are the worst welds ever. Don't like the dual exhaust idea either, lil' 4 bangers don't need it. I don't like Altezza lights either, so you can't talk crap to me smile

If you're happy with it, I'm happy for you, and I'm sure it'll look pretty cool once you get those tips on.



i havnt been here that long but i know an idiot when i see one, why are you picking fights with people after 40 posts? you think i cant talk crap to you noob? why dont you post some pictures of your bad ass ride and show how cool you really are, and by the way, i wasnt talking crap about his Altezza lights, i was making a point on how different people have different tastes. you sound like an idiot to me and with the kind of comments you give dont ve surprised if sooner or later most people in these forums think the same. about needing things...4 bangers dont "need" many things we do to them, but people mod their cars to their own liking because they like it. and yes i posted up to see what everyone thought. and yeah i respect your opinion about how you like it but you sound like a little kid when you say i cant talk crap about you... if i ever ask for everyones opinion...make sure you leave your out because i dont care what you think ok noob

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223002 Jul 16, 3:27pm Jul 16, 3:27pm
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just wondering, how many people here that posted about how ugly the welds looks have experiance welding, or know that they have gotten their exauhst welded and the welds look sooo much nicer. i had seen many jobs done before and they always looked like the ones on my car. i thought it was just the kind of welder that they were using that made the welds look like that. keep in mind i am not saying that you guys dont know what you are talking about, but i am curious as to know what nice exauhst welds look like.

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223003 Jul 16, 6:07pm Jul 16, 6:07pm
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: v3n0m] #223004 Jul 16, 6:30pm Jul 16, 6:30pm
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Uhh???

If you like it, thats great. Not a fan. thumbsdown


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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Sancho] #223005 Jul 17, 6:37am Jul 17, 6:37am

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there good...but the welds are bad and the tips are a little ugly...get some new tips and it should be good thumbsup

you probally lost some power though thumbsdown

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i'm not a fan of dual exhausts but they are a good APPEARANCE mod. and yes power is lost unless one of the tips are a dummy and then it's only a matter of weight gain.

but face it..lambo doors add weight so before ppl start trashing duals as 'dead weight' thats just something to keep in mind.

that said (and no offence)...but it looks like you used fence posts for ur piping.

but, thats just my opinion. i'm a big beleive in that a person's car should reflect the way they feel about it. if it came out the exact way you wanted it to come out..then it's all good thumbsup

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #223007 Jul 18, 2:00am Jul 18, 2:00am
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i got new tips finally, ill post pics tommorow

Re: custom dual exauhst #223008 Jul 18, 2:04am Jul 18, 2:04am
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that looks freakin sweet, wish i had the money to do that.


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Re: custom dual exauhst #223009 Jul 18, 9:45am Jul 18, 9:45am
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mad props for doing it yourself thumbsup let me know how it turns out in the end...very curious about dual exhaust grin

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: SmutasticGT] #223010 Jul 18, 9:50am Jul 18, 9:50am
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4 pics, wait to post till finished please

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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223011 Jul 18, 9:54am Jul 18, 9:54am
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pic #2

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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223012 Jul 18, 9:55am Jul 18, 9:55am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223013 Jul 18, 9:56am Jul 18, 9:56am
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Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223014 Jul 18, 9:59am Jul 18, 9:59am
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i have a friend @ autozone...instead of paying like 25 bucks a tip, i got 2 for 15 bucks...they actually have nice ones there if you dont mind them being screw on instead of welded. either way, its not like people get on their knees to see if the tips are welded or screwed on. So, better now? even though a lot of you guys dont like duals, i think it looks pimp. (aside from the primered bumper

Re: custom dual exauhst [Re: hector] #223015 Jul 18, 10:01am Jul 18, 10:01am
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looks a lot better thumbsup

just need to paint that rear up and your set


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