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2000AllTrack
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2000AllTrack Jul 9, 10:15pm - #220127 
2000 Red Toyota Celica GT
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ok i have a major question and every modification that i plan on doing to my car depends on the answer i want to put a 3S-GTE engine in my 2000 Celica GT i also would like to convert my car from two wheel drive to all wheel drive now my question is this would all i have to do to do that is to find the latest All Track Celica i could find and take the tranny and the transfer case and get custom made drive shafts for it and trade out the rear axles or is there more to it then that also if i did this successfully i would also like to put GTS tranny in just so i could have that extra gear now i know all of this is possible anything is possilbe what i want to know is what do you think it would cost money is no problem right now ill do what ever it takes to have my car the way i want to have it and to make "Sport Compact" regret that they ever said that there just isnt a good Ceilca in the new gen i wont to have the baddest out there and would like yoru imput
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NorwayGT
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NorwayGT Jul 9, 10:17pm - #220128 

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lmao...nice screen name rofl rofl rofl it has no K at the end rofl rofl rofl

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is....04 srt4 stock
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gearSHIFTx
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gearSHIFTx Jul 9, 10:27pm - #220129 

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Putting a 3S-GTE into 7th Gen...its been done b4. It was BADASS...

Now converting to an AWD? I dont even think that would be even worth doing. Dont blow your money. if you want an All-Trac, buy one. But if your intent on doing this, do it. Would get tons of attention.

If you can get a V8 into a 5th Gen, then it may be possible to do this. But i hope you have a lot of money that you dont mind going into the car...

Good Luck
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ryizzle
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ryizzle Jul 9, 10:37pm - #220130 
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this soudns expensive, might be cheaper to put a 7gen chassie(sp?) on the all trac.

Took the brakes off cause they slow me down
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shidarin
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shidarin Jul 9, 10:39pm - #220131 
1997 Speeding Ticket Red Toyota Celica GT
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20k+, don't be stupid, buy a supra or something if you have that kind of money or import a 6th gen GT4. Also, how exactly do you propose using the alltrac's tranny to get AWD, and then using the GTS's tranny to get the extra gear?

As for V8s and stuff in 5th gens, check out the cardomain's celica pages.
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gearSHIFTx
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gearSHIFTx Jul 9, 10:48pm - #220132 

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The v6 and v8 5th gens are so bad-ass.
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ryizzle
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ryizzle Jul 9, 10:53pm - #220133 
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if you wanna have the "badest celica" its gonna be tough topping the Turbonetics celi. that thing is shweeeeeeeet.

Took the brakes off cause they slow me down
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shidarin
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shidarin Jul 9, 10:55pm - #220134 
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not really, not when you can get one with AWD and then pimp it out/speed it up. I assume you're refering to the Turbonetics swapped 7th gen 3sgte?
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ryizzle
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ryizzle Jul 9, 11:00pm - #220135 
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naw, the tundra twin Turbo

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Lucky_317 Jul 9, 11:31pm - #220136 

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yup, no K smile

3s has been done before. took lots of time and money. with enough trial and error you could get the AWD to work correctly.

you'll need...

1) a grip of money/time
2) second car to ues as daily driver, your celica will be down most of the time you own it.

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RedSunCelica Jul 10, 12:10am - #220137 

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well technically i heard that the 5th and 6th gen chassis layout is actually the same. so if nothing has changed for the 7th gen is should be the same demensions. now the motor swap thats the easy part. the awd conversion thats gonna take about 1 year with all the trial and errors youll have.

one main thing to look at is if you use the 6th gen gt4 drive train layout see if you can get a under picture of the car, and compare it with the 7th gen. im sure the first things that will need to be changed/cut will be the fuel box and the exahust path. also on the 7th gens there isnt really much room for the rear diff so there will be some cutting that youll need to do there too.

also the width of the 5th and 6th gen all trac is probably gonna be a little wider then the 7th gen so thats more cutting youll need to do to the body.

also the 6th gear wont really do shit for you. sure you have six gears but is it geared properly for you to take advantage of it. the 3s doesnt rev as high as the 2zz or 1zz so itll be a bigger waste of money to even try the 6 gear way. adding another gear wont make the car faster. you'll be doing 75 in 6th the freaking car will stall.

all in all itll be a ton of work and ill admit itll be a one of a kind car if your ever done but its a commitment youll have to make.

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spaztikid Jul 10, 12:59am - #220138 
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waste of money...

the 3s swaps are just dyno queens rolleyes
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RedSunCelica
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RedSunCelica Jul 10, 1:03am - #220139 

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its basically to much power for the front wheels YES I SAID IT to much power in the front wheels turns into traction and horrible launch issues

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shidarin
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shidarin Jul 10, 2:29am - #220140 
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3s's are more than just dyno queens if you do them right..
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GT4
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GT4 Jul 12, 3:49am - #220141 

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Just ask Rod Millen how he did it.
http://www.rodmillen.com/UCelica.htm
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drkramm Jul 12, 7:56pm - #220142 
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millen did it with a lot of money and if you saw the speical on tlc i think , he said that he can barely drive it goes the clutch dynamites on him

hey thats a 20 minute phone call
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DiabloGTS Jul 12, 7:58pm - #220143 

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that car was $1,000,000 to build.

Why not just buy a ferrari that will own that all day confused

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Lucky_317 Jul 12, 9:57pm - #220144 

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^^^ rofl thumbsup

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2000AllTrack Jul 12, 10:07pm - #220145 
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wow thanks guys for all the imput i wasnt expecting that much of a response and thanks for the advice about the GTS tranny ill keep you posted with what i will do in the end with my Celica and if the all wheel drive thing works out for me more then llikely it will piss me off and ill just stick with the 3S-GTE swap and sell it and buy a Supra well thanks again but ill keep you posted
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