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BLITZ SC #213534 Jul 1, 5:45am Jul 1, 5:45am
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i was wanting to know if there is anyone out there that know were i can buy this the blitz suppercharger at i tryed blitz usa but i cant find it if you know of any one that has this and is welling to sell well am the buyer hit me up with some INFO

Re: BLITZ SC [Re: celicagts2000] #213535 Jul 1, 5:54am Jul 1, 5:54am
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if you want it go thru Trial

personally, i say fuck this supercharger an get a Turbo... for the money being spent NOWHERE near enough HP gained.


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Lark] #213536 Jul 1, 6:12am Jul 1, 6:12am
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Originally Posted by Lark
if you want it go thru Trial

personally, i say fuck this supercharger an get a Turbo... for the money being spent NOWHERE near enough HP gained.


yea but a sc is a lot less hassel then a Turbo


hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
Re: BLITZ SC [Re: drkramm] #213537 Jul 1, 6:16am Jul 1, 6:16am
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Originally Posted by drkramm
Originally Posted by Lark
if you want it go thru Trial

personally, i say fuck this supercharger an get a Turbo... for the money being spent NOWHERE near enough HP gained.


yea but a sc is a lot less hassel then a Turbo


why you say that?


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Lark] #213538 Jul 1, 6:25am Jul 1, 6:25am
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you bolt on a supercharger Turbo you have to wrestle in a header all the piping the intercooler not to mention theres no Turbo lag and nearly all the Turbo systems for the gts have had nothing but prolems not to mention a supercharger is a lil less painful for the engine


hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
Re: BLITZ SC [Re: drkramm] #213539 Jul 1, 6:30am Jul 1, 6:30am
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I 've heard that the SC is a lot nicer to the engine. Less problems.


I'm gonna take your little Civic. Dust it off. Turn it sideways and stick it straight up you candy A*s.
Re: BLITZ SC [Re: GTSHYPR] #213540 Jul 1, 6:31am Jul 1, 6:31am
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these people have it but it was just a quick search so i would keep looking http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/default.asp?brandCd=BLIT+subcategorycd=SUPR


hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
Re: BLITZ SC [Re: drkramm] #213541 Jul 1, 6:52am Jul 1, 6:52am
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Originally Posted by drkramm
you bolt on a supercharger Turbo you have to wrestle in a header all the piping the intercooler not to mention theres no Turbo lag and nearly all the Turbo systems for the gts have had nothing but prolems not to mention a supercharger is a lil less painful for the engine


of course a Turbo is gonna be a longer install but when it comes to something like a Turbo/supercharger i personally would have a credible shop do the install for me.

turbo lag... running these t3/t4's you spool up around 2000rpm... correct me if im wrong but you get to 2000 rpm pretty damn quick

an as for reliable... for almost $6,000 you can build yourself a VERY nice Turbo kit.


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Lark] #213542 Jul 1, 7:18am Jul 1, 7:18am
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theres still the reliability issue

its all amatter of opinion i guess

but don't tell him to scrap his idea and do something eles thats not very nice its his car not yours


hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
Re: BLITZ SC [Re: drkramm] #213543 Jul 1, 7:40am Jul 1, 7:40am
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Originally Posted by drkramm
theres still the reliability issue


with 6,000 you would be able to make a nice little t3/t4 set up..power fc..oil & fuel mods
you would be able to run that 6-8psi everyday safely.
spend alil extra money for engine internals an you can boost even higher.


Originally Posted by drkramm
but don't tell him to scrap his idea and do something eles thats not very nice its his car not yours

i never told him to scrap his idea.. i said PERSONALLY i would do the Turbo over the $6,000 supercharger.

not flaming... just tryin to save him some money.


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Lark] #213544 Jul 1, 7:50am Jul 1, 7:50am
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In my opinion go Supercharged, it looks better, its less harmful to your engine in the long run, less possibility of running into problems, easy install, but you will sacrafice the horsepower increase vs Turbo if you consider the cost.

good luck thumbsup

Re: BLITZ SC [Re: ravertony] #213545 Jul 1, 7:57am Jul 1, 7:57am
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i jsut found some videos of a s/c celica and man i want it the whine from it is awsome


hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
Re: BLITZ SC [Re: drkramm] #213546 Jul 1, 8:54am Jul 1, 8:54am
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what are you using the car for. that is the question that should be asked all the time when considering forced induction. Drag go Turbo, you spend more time in the high rpms. AutoX go supercharger, you spend more time in the lower end.

Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Rexy13] #213547 Jul 1, 9:09am Jul 1, 9:09am
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supercharge your car..then you will be happy.

then jump in a Turbo car in which the person spent the same 6grand investing into their Turbo, and you will kick yourself in the ass.

if Turbos weren't reliable, they wouldn't be putting them on vehicles from the factory. just save yourself some money and get yourself a Turbo.

Re: BLITZ SC [Re: drkramm] #213548 Jul 1, 9:14am Jul 1, 9:14am
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Originally Posted by drkramm
i jsut found some videos of a s/c celica and man i want it the whine from it is awsome


where'd you find the vids?

Re: BLITZ SC [Re: fusi0n] #213549 Jul 1, 10:01am Jul 1, 10:01am
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Originally Posted by fusi0n
supercharge your car..then you will be happy.

then jump in a Turbo car in which the person spent the same 6grand investing into their Turbo, and you will kick yourself in the ass.

if Turbos weren't reliable, they wouldn't be putting them on vehicles from the factory. just save yourself some money and get yourself a Turbo.


Thank you... thats what i wanted to say this whole time...

turbos are just as reliable as a supercharger, just dont be an asshole an crank up the boost then wonder why your engine is fucked an start pointing fingers at the wrong people.


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Lark] #213550 Jul 1, 2:05pm Jul 1, 2:05pm
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there are pros & cons to both setups,

Turbos have lag, they break a lot easier, and getting everything tuned properly is more involved. You are also required to run an intercooler to crank up the boost. On the plus side, Turbos are more efficient, and there is almost zero parasitic loss with a Turbo, since it's driven by exhaust pressure. there's also more room for fine-tuning once everything is installed.

Superchargers are heavier than a Turbo, and there is parasitic loss, since most superchargers are driven by the crank pulley (or another pulley, or an axle, it depends on the kit). Those that are not pulley driven are usually electric, and those, while some actually work (like the knight engineering electric SC) require a bank of batteries and large electric motor drives, which eliminate parasitic loss, but increases weight, so it sort of balances out.

On the plus side, Superchargers are more reliable, less prone to breaking, and can use intercoolers to safely handle more boost just like a Turbo. most SC's don't require an oil line, since they're permanently lubed via sealed bearing cases, they can be clutch driven, so unlike a Turbo, they don't have to be running boost all the time, and there is no lag with an SC. Rather than making BOV/wastegate/boost controller adjustments to change boost settings, you can simply change a pulley on the SC to do the same thing (although a BOV/controller may be used as well in high-end setups). Instead of waiting for the motor to reach 2K rpms, you will get boost starting even lower in the revs, and down low, our cars need all the help they can get.

Yes, it's true that a lot of cars come with a Turbo from the factory these days, but the same is true for superchargers, Superchargers are also time-proven, they've been around longer than Turbos, so, as long as you buy from an established company, the results will be good, and the SC will be reliable, but the same goes for a good Turbo setup. It all depends on your personal tastes.


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Rave669] #213551 Jul 2, 3:37pm Jul 2, 3:37pm
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...you can run no boost with a Turbo just gotta disconnect wastegate actuator arm (all you need is a pair of needle nose pliers)

an as for the instant boost with a supercharger, insted of having to wait until 2k rpms...
when you launch a fwd car you need as much traction as possible.
and plus if you think about it... 2,000 rpms comes VERY quick


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Originally Posted by drkramm
you bolt on a supercharger Turbo you have to wrestle in a header all the piping the intercooler not to mention theres no Turbo lag and nearly all the Turbo systems for the gts have had nothing but prolems not to mention a supercharger is a lil less painful for the engine


but 3+k for 30 hp is not worth it


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: VSGTS14] #213553 Jul 2, 3:44pm Jul 2, 3:44pm
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yea thats all i have really been tryin to get across the $$$/HP ratio just isnt worth it


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: Lark] #213554 Jul 2, 4:04pm Jul 2, 4:04pm
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i read somewhere on this website that the blitz only puts out 35 hourse and 36lbs torque. to me 35 hourse power for 5000$, i wouldnt wast my money


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Re: BLITZ SC [Re: WCB420] #213555 Jul 2, 11:08pm Jul 2, 11:08pm
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eh, for what it's worth found this article.

Project Celica Part III
Bolt-On Boost--Blitz Supercharger;

"On the dyno the Toyota pumped out 198.9 hp on 91-octane gas; peak power was increased by 33.6 hp."

http://www.turbomagazine.com/features/0211tur_celica/

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