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CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness #204582 Jun 22, 12:09pm Jun 22, 12:09pm
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CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness
Ok first, Im more scared of my airbag going off then getting in a accident... that said...

Anyone know the CA law about 4point harnesses.. I heard they were were not legal..? also, anyone know where to obtain a B-Pillar bar?

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: falkkor] #204583 Jun 22, 12:41pm Jun 22, 12:41pm
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harnesses are not street legal...

- I'm also interested in a B-pillar brace but most of the ones I've come across are custom fabs - nothing from any companies...

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: Sultan] #204584 Jun 22, 1:22pm Jun 22, 1:22pm
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yeah, it would be a custom fabbed job bor the brace, and the harnesses I'm not sure about...I know that they are legal here in georgia because it counts as a restraining device and that's the way the law reads...not necessarily a lap and chest belt only...read the law on the CA legislature website, you may get away with it on a technicality

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: AZZKIKR] #204585 Jun 22, 1:24pm Jun 22, 1:24pm
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I believe 4 point harnesses are not legal because in the event of a roll over were the roof caves in, it will cave in right on top of your head.

If you're wearing a 4 pt harness, your body will not be able to move to the side to avoid the and you'll get a severe if not fatal spinal injury.

Schroth, I believe, carries a street legal 4 pt harness. It is street legal because one point breaks away creating a 3 pt harness in an accident.

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: Steven] #204586 Jun 22, 1:27pm Jun 22, 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Steven
I believe 4 point harnesses are not legal because in the event of a roll over were the roof caves in, it will cave in right on top of your head.

If you're wearing a 4 pt harness, your body will not be able to move to the side to avoid the and you'll get a severe if not fatal spinal injury.

Schroth, I believe, carries a street legal 4 pt harness. It is street legal because one point breaks away creating a 3 pt harness in an accident.



Awsome thanks for the info guys, I was looking at 4pt's cause I was under the impression 5pts wernt legal. Hmmm Soo technickly couldnt I take 1 strap off and tuck behind me if I go to get pulled over? tongue rofl

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: falkkor] #204587 Jun 22, 2:12pm Jun 22, 2:12pm
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^^ maybe. just hope they dont shoot you thinkin you're reaching for a gun rofl


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Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: Lucky_317] #204588 Jun 22, 2:23pm Jun 22, 2:23pm
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^^^
yeah, it's happened before...

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: Sultan] #204589 Jun 22, 4:57pm Jun 22, 4:57pm
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LOL yeah good point

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: falkkor] #204590 Jun 27, 8:58pm Jun 27, 8:58pm
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I've been pulled over more than once for various reasons in cali. The cops have seen my 4 pt harnesses (passenger and driver seats) and haven't said anything. My roof will not cave in also since I have a full 4130 chrome-moly roll cage. My sparco harness is 10 times safer than any seatbelt, esp. with my full padded roll cage welded by a professional. If I ever get questioned legally my lawyer will use safety as an argument to defend me.
BTW, if your roof caves in with you wearing a seatbelt it won't be pretty if your head can move or not move. It won't be pretty any way you look at it.
If the cops in your area don't care, then that is the law.


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Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: QTRMLR_1] #204591 Jun 27, 9:06pm Jun 27, 9:06pm
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If you are worried about rollovers, get a roll cage or at least a roll bar to properly install your harness. Just don't install the shoulder straps to the rear seat bolts like a lot of people do. That's wrong and unsafe.


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Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: QTRMLR_1] #204592 Jun 28, 7:38am Jun 28, 7:38am
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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
If you are worried about rollovers, get a roll cage or at least a roll bar to properly install your harness. Just don't install the shoulder straps to the rear seat bolts like a lot of people do. That's wrong and unsafe.


they usually dont require cages until you hit 11.99 seconds. But they do work well for camera mounts/harnesses thumbsup


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Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: Lucky_317] #204593 Jun 28, 4:09pm Jun 28, 4:09pm
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Yeah my big concern was removing the Driver airbag, wanted a way to be sure my face wouldnt go right into the wheel. Hmmm something to look into smile thanks for the info guys.

Re: CA law / Greddy 4x4 Harness [Re: falkkor] #204594 Jun 29, 4:14pm Jun 29, 4:14pm
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unless you're really serious about weight, having the airbag is still a good thing for racing. If it's about the steering wheel, Grant makes aftermaret wheels that fit around your airbag. You can try going to Checkers/Kragen or Autozone and look at their Grant Wheel catalog.

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