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Unresponsive <4k rpm #201807 Jun 18, 8:10pm Jun 18, 8:10pm
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Unresponsive <4k rpm
Car ran fine for a day after putting my Exhaust on so I dont think its that

I jsut replaced my Sparkplugs from the ones that were in there whe nI got the car with Busch Platnium +4's

Now below 4k RMP it feels like im in a geo metro. 1st gear is ok, 2 slows down alot, and 3-6 jsut no power can have the pedal to the floor and it jsut slowly creeps up, then at 4k or so + it goes back to how it used to be.. Responsive and fast.

I was driving it around all morning jsut fine this all started after putting hte new plugs in... any ideas?
MAF sensor cleaning maybe?

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that is weird...i dunno...ya try the MAF

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm #201809 Jun 18, 8:16pm Jun 18, 8:16pm
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i dunno but the GTS has lots of problems down low frown


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Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm #201810 Jun 18, 8:17pm Jun 18, 8:17pm
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doesn't our celi uses Denso?? y did you use bosch??
does it make a diff..??

that's exactly what happen to my gf car yesterday after i hosed down the engine..after awhile there was smoke coming out of the Intake box..i was freaking out..but today it was ok, nothing happen..

i suggest you go to toyota and get denso and change to that see what happen..Good Luck thumbsup


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm #201811 Jun 18, 8:17pm Jun 18, 8:17pm
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Well I just took my sister shopping and got my toung pierced .. again.. I thought it was cause she was in the car. I just figured it was the extra weight (I usualy drive alone)

The I just went on a Beer run and thats when I figured it wasnt that there was definatly something wrong.

Its prolly not this but that It feels like is 2 cylinders are firing under 4k then at 4k the other 2 kick in and boom everything is normal again...

Bad plugs maybe?...

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201812 Jun 18, 8:18pm Jun 18, 8:18pm
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could be..


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201813 Jun 18, 8:21pm Jun 18, 8:21pm
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hopefully you get it fixed cause that suck; can't help though unfortunately, but take it to a professional cause it could take you a lot of guess work and burn through your pockets

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: jrock] #201814 Jun 18, 8:36pm Jun 18, 8:36pm
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Think I might pull the Bushs out after I finish this beer and clean and regap the Denzos and put those back in...

the Busch's Have 4 .. Connectors.. not sure of the word to use, and never require gapping. They were really nice Plugs and are for the Celica. Im really at a loss... wonder if kragen will take a return on them...

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201815 Jun 18, 8:48pm Jun 18, 8:48pm
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take them off and put the old one bakc..if that fix the problem then it's def..ur plug..


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201816 Jun 18, 8:52pm Jun 18, 8:52pm
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Well have to go to Honda again tomarrow to get my Antenna, Will see how it drives then, if its still doing it Ill jsut swap them back out and buy Denso's.. Is it cool to clean the plugs with like a wire brush? there was a ton of buildup and shit on the plugs.

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201817 Jun 18, 8:55pm Jun 18, 8:55pm
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no clue..sorry..good luck.


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201818 Jun 18, 10:26pm Jun 18, 10:26pm
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er... you are very wrong from changing the sparkplugs...

the bosch's 4+ has nothing to do with gaining Performance... and it's platinum... ur stock plugs are Iridium.
Iridium > platinum.

we need Iridium to hadle the 11.5:1 compression ration of our high revving engine.

the 4+ is just there to extend the plug's life, has nothing to do with Performance.

change the plugs back now! b4 you ruin ur engine.


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Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: Elec-FuYu] #201819 Jun 18, 10:30pm Jun 18, 10:30pm
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be sure you buy IK22 or IK24 DENSO sparkplugs
if you want more performace go with TRD sparkplugs...i think it's from denso and it is IK24

anything lower will ruin our GTS engine.

u need "cold" sparkplugs for high compression engine.
IK22 has a "cold" number of 7-8
IK24 has a "cold" number of 9

the bigger the number the "colder"

and the bosch you bought i think has 4-5

have fun.


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Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: Elec-FuYu] #201820 Jun 18, 10:32pm Jun 18, 10:32pm
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Thanks a lot man. I jsut got off the phone with my friend who got me into tuning (2k Civic SI unriced) He told me the same thing. GOnna go rip Kragen a new one and see if they will return these.

BTW is it cool to clean plugs with like a wire brush? I dont have a Spark Plug Cleaner. Will need the old ones back in there til I can get the Denso's

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201821 Jun 18, 10:35pm Jun 18, 10:35pm
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just be sure you dont scratch the plug head...

other wise, you can just put them in. that will just be fine.

ur stock plugs are densos. thumbsup


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Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: Elec-FuYu] #201822 Jun 18, 10:36pm Jun 18, 10:36pm
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Yeah thanks for the info. I ment til I can get new Denso Iridiums.

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201823 Jun 18, 10:38pm Jun 18, 10:38pm
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^^^NP
hope ur engine is still fine~

by the way our stock is IK22

if you want new ones, get IK24. thumbsup


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Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: Elec-FuYu] #201824 Jun 19, 9:41am Jun 19, 9:41am
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^^^know any other place or site that sell TRD spark plug??


Originally Posted by pesho01
Question:
Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201825 Jun 19, 11:43am Jun 19, 11:43am
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UPDATE: Went back to Kragen they double checked and then "gave" me soem NGK's to try.. those didnt thread quite right so I didnt even try. Cleaned up my old Denso Iridiums and put them back in.. car works fine. Kragen was really cool about refunding me 100% on the first set of Plugs that didnt work. and I gave them back the NGK's.

So... Im ONLY going to get Denso Iridiums from now on smile
It was the plugs, now I jsut need to get soem Carb cleaner and do my MAF, its about time lol

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201826 Jun 19, 4:46pm Jun 19, 4:46pm
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^^^ thumbsup thumbsup
nice that ur problem solved~
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i believe the toyota dealer can get you some.
or else search in the net.
either TRD sparkplug or DENSO IK24 thumbsup


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Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: Elec-FuYu] #201827 Jun 19, 5:42pm Jun 19, 5:42pm
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yeah..go to toyota and get some..my gf;s car did the same thing after i hosed down her engine two days ago..had the plug change and now it's better then ever..


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201828 Jun 19, 5:49pm Jun 19, 5:49pm
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well that was fun...

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: spaztikid] #201829 Jun 19, 5:53pm Jun 19, 5:53pm
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sure was... grin


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201830 Jun 19, 7:15pm Jun 19, 7:15pm
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Figured it out smile

They were giving me Plugs for the 1zz not 2zz..

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201831 Jun 19, 7:38pm Jun 19, 7:38pm
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lucky nothing bad happen to ur car..not a good sign when they give you the wrong plug for ur engine..tsk tsk tsk..shame on them..


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201832 Jun 19, 9:12pm Jun 19, 9:12pm
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Yeah but at the same time I didnt know any better. DO now smile lol.

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201833 Jun 19, 9:16pm Jun 19, 9:16pm
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hey you live you learn..now you know never to get any other brand plug for you car... grin


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201834 Jun 19, 9:20pm Jun 19, 9:20pm
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Denso Iriduims from now on. grin

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201835 Jun 19, 9:23pm Jun 19, 9:23pm
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when you change ur plug..did you have to take off the cylinder cover?? i'm planning on changing it but not until my car hit 60k..now it's at 30k...oh yeah how long did it take for you to change all 4 of ur plug?? or did you change all 4..


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201836 Jun 19, 9:25pm Jun 19, 9:25pm
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Took 15 minutes for me and I have never changed a plug before cept for on a lawn mower smile

wasnt too bad

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201837 Jun 19, 9:28pm Jun 19, 9:28pm
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good to know..i'm gonna give it a try.. thumbsup


Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: celicafourotwo] #201838 Jun 19, 9:29pm Jun 19, 9:29pm
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just unhook the clips first and pull them up it makes it easyer to pull out

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: falkkor] #201839 Jun 20, 1:53am Jun 20, 1:53am
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do the ik24 work on GT?

Re: Unresponsive <4k rpm [Re: ghostingcelica] #201840 Jun 20, 6:29am Jun 20, 6:29am
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i don't see y not..


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