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Jun 18, 8:41am - #201019 
DC sports header GTS

Does anyone know thw gains. $314.00 is a good deal
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Jun 18, 8:45am - #201020 
i think it is 8-10 or somthing..

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Jun 18, 9:06am - #201021 
I'm really thinking about getting these. Same power gains for half the price.The only let down is that it's ceramic.


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Jun 18, 9:09am - #201022 
Originally Posted by 401Celica
I'm really thinking about getting these. Same power gains for half the price.The only let down is that it's ceramic.


Why is ceramic bad???


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Jun 18, 9:37am - #201023 
my car got 10 whp peak and an average of 4-5 through the whole powerband.


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Jun 18, 9:44am - #201024 
It's a 4-2-1
I thought that a 4-1 is better. Maybe???


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Jun 18, 9:45am - #201025 
gts has to be 4-2-1

even the stocker is smile


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Jun 18, 9:46am - #201026 
Well that sux. cry


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Jun 18, 10:18am - #201027 
10 at peak really eek


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Jun 18, 10:20am - #201028 
question: i think the gains of the trial is somewhere around 11...but how good are they...does it last??

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Jun 18, 2:47pm - #201029 
Y didnt they make it ss, i would totally get it if it was ss


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Jun 18, 2:48pm - #201030 
is Hotshot ss?


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Jun 18, 2:50pm - #201031 
Originally Posted by Tru_gts
is Hotshot ss?

hotshot is only for GT, and no, its not SS, ceramic is lighter anyways


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Jun 18, 2:55pm - #201032 
Are you sure that mild steel with ceramic coating is lighter than ss Norway?


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Jun 18, 2:56pm - #201033 
Lucky, what do you think, ceramic's lighter or ss is lighter?


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Jun 18, 2:58pm - #201034 
Ceramic doesnt last nearly as long as SS. The DC ceramic header will only last 1-2 years in bad conditions w/ salt and snow. And expect 5 yrs in normal weather. The ceramic will start to crack and chip and start to rust. Its really a problem with the hondas cause the header hangs low under the car and is really exposed. Thats basically what you'll hear from the honda sites. But for only 285, Im definately pickin one up.


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Jun 18, 3:00pm - #201035 
I've heard that the ceramic weighs more. The mild steel isnt that light. But I dont think its that much of a difference between the weight of ceramic and SS. A couple lbs at the most.


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Jun 18, 3:24pm - #201036 
thumbsup thumbsup

I will get one for sure

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Jun 18, 3:26pm - #201037 
dunno. what is trial made of?

trial = heavier then stock

DC = lighter then stock.

I have never seen anyone post an independant dyno of the trial header.


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Jun 18, 3:52pm - #201038 
is it a good ideal to spray something on the header to help the ceramic coating last longer and to prevent rust or cracks from developing? Is there such thing out there for that?


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Jun 18, 4:03pm - #201039 
I think trial, overall, is the better quality but it's a little too pricey. DC sports on the other hand got the reputation. Hmmm. Now I'm in a debate. If I had the money, I'll probably get the trial because it will last longer. Are you sure the DC sports only last 1-2 years? Not a very good investment if you ask me. If anyone here or knows someone that has the DC sports header, please give some info and dynos.


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Jun 18, 4:20pm - #201040 
i dont understand y dcsports didnt go for the whole 9 yards and make a more durable header.


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Jun 18, 4:26pm - #201041 
stainless steel is heavier than mild steel. the only things lighter are aluminum and titanium.

stainless will hold up better to the elements, but if it's ceramic coated, it will hold up just fine, plus it'll keep underhood temps down (remember, your heat shield will be gone after a header install) it's also good for scavenging the exaust and making sure it runs hot enough for the cat to work.

lastly, if you get a ceramic-coated header, don't thermal wrap it, it's bad for the ceramic coating, and may cause it to crack or flake off (wrapping it retains too much heat at the ceramic layer) you won't need it anyways if it's ceramic-coated; still hot to the touch though, so watch those fingers if you work under the Hood whie the engine is still hot.

I dented the header on my escort at one point, but the ceramic stayed on, only one small scratch, but it never got worse, or flaked off, even after I knocked the dent out, it stayed on.

ceramic coating is impressive stuff, and it'll keep the rust away really well too! Just as reliable as stainless, just better in terms of thermal insulation. thumbsup


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Jun 18, 4:46pm - #201042 
well i prefer ss but im planning to get the dc header anyways


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Jun 18, 5:32pm - #201043 
I wouldnt say that ceramic is "just as reliable as stainless" but i agree it will hold up pretty well. I trust DCsports. My question is that when ppl say that ceramic headers crack, do they mean that just the coating cracks or the actual header that cracks?


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Jun 18, 6:04pm - #201044 
Originally Posted by 401Celica
I think trial, overall, is the better quality


I have yet to see proof of this smile


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Jun 18, 8:14pm - #201045 
if you guy planning to buy DC header with ceremic coated go to:http://www.optauto.com/webstore/product_list.asp?dept=69&last=69 it's only $270 betta then what you said above prices..don't know about shipping charge though..but still less if you don't count shipping..


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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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Jun 18, 8:21pm - #201046 
Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
if you guy planning to buy DC header with ceremic coated go to:http://www.optauto.com/webstore/product_list.asp?dept=69&last=69 it's only $270 betta then what you said above prices..don't know about shipping charge though..but still less if you don't count shipping..


or you can get on the GB from groupbuy4celica and get it for like $260 thumbsup support the site man geez smile


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Jun 18, 8:25pm - #201047 
^^^really now? didn't know that..first time i saw that..how much shipping? or is that included?? hehe..


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Jun 18, 9:38pm - #201048 
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
Originally Posted by 401Celica
I think trial, overall, is the better quality


I have yet to see proof of this smile


Well, to be honest, I don't know much about trial but I do know a little about DC sports. For example, My friend installed a ceramic DC sports header for his 97 honda accord (daily driver). He had it for 3-5 months. It started the rust and look like shit. It looks like it was 5 years old and started to crack (outer layer). That's why I "think" trial is better since it's SS. Most likely, I'll probably get the trial, it's JDM. My celica's worth it.

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Jun 18, 9:44pm - #201049 
OPT is great I get all my stuff off there. Next day delivery if your in Cali. Well... They are in South Cali and Im on hte Central caost. Always Next day ground. Very well packed ect.

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Jun 18, 9:46pm - #201050 
or you can get on the GB from groupbuy4celica and get it for like $260 thumbsup support the site man geez smile [/quote]

Found another, www.madacar.com 259.99. I would support this site and buy it from GroupBuy4celica, but that dude is taking too long to get his products, 5 months. wtf

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Jun 18, 9:54pm - #201051 
If they put a credit card option in I would be all over it smile DOnt deal with Checks or Money order frown

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Jun 18, 11:33pm - #201052 
u guys are being confused...

ceramic coated will be better than stainless steel... thumbsup


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Jun 19, 5:51pm - #201053 
i disagree thumbsup


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Jun 19, 5:56pm - #201054 
i agree with tru_gts thumbsup


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