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Could these be correct???
Price (rounded) Accel (0 - 60) 1/4 mile Top Speed Braking (70 -0) Road- handling

[color:#0000FF]Honda S2000

[color:#0000FF]$32,000 [color:#0000FF]6.4 sec [color:#0000FF]N/A [color:#0000FF]140 mph [color:#0000FF]N/A [color:#0000FF]N/A

[color:#0000FF]Honda Civic Si

[color:#0000FF]$18,000 [color:#0000FF]7.2 sec [color:#0000FF]15.7 sec [color:#0000FF]127 mph [color:#0000FF]199 ft [color:#0000FF]0.83 g

[color:#0000FF]Acura Integra Type R

[color:#0000FF]$25,000 [color:#0000FF]6.5 sec [color:#0000FF]14.5 sec [color:#0000FF]143 mph [color:#0000FF]164 ft [color:#0000FF]0.88 g

[color:#0000FF] Acura Integra GS-R

[color:#0000FF] $22,500 [color:#0000FF] 7.2 sec [color:#0000FF] 15.7 sec [color:#0000FF] 134 mph [color:#0000FF] 183 ft [color:#0000FF] 0.81 g

[color:#FF0000] Acura NSX

[color:#FF0000] $87,500 [color:#FF0000] 4.8 sec [color:#FF0000] 13.2 sec [color:#FF0000] 167 mph [color:#FF0000] 164 ft [color:#FF0000] 0.93 g

Audi A4 1.8T

$23,000 7.9 sec 15.9 sec 130 mph (185 ft) 0.80 g

Audi TT Quattro Roadster

$43,000 6.2 sec 14.7 sec 140 mph 163 ft 0.85 g

BMW M3

$47,000 4.7 sec 13.3 sec 155 mph (170 ft) 0.91 g

BMW M Roadster

$44,000 5.6 sec 14.2 sec 137 mph (168 ft) 0.87 g

BMW 318t

$20,500 8.3 sec 16.3 sec 116 mph (175 ft) 0.83 g

BMW 323i

$27,500 7.5 sec 15.7 sec 130 mph (165 ft) 0.85 g

Chevy Cavalier Z24

$15,000 7.7 sec 15.9 sec 130 mph (200 ft) 0.80 g

Dodge Neon RT

$15,500 7.7 sec 16.4 sec 126 mph 181 ft 0.86 g

Ford Focus ZTS

$16,000 9.4 sec 17.1 sec 105 mph 178 ft 0.81 g

Ford Mustang V6

$20,000 8.5 sec 16.3 sec 130 mph (200 ft) 0.83 g

Honda Accord

$24,500 7.6 sec 16.0 sec 129 mph 187 ft 0.80 g

Honda Civic Ex

$15,500 9.5 sec 17.3 sec 111 mph 195 ft 0.75 g

Honda Prelude

$24,000 6.8 sec 15.4 sec 140 mph 182 ft 0.84 g

Hyundai Tiburon

$15,000 8.1 sec 16.3 sec 126 mph 192 ft 0.84 g

Lexus IS300

$34,000 7.1 sec 15.3 sec 143 mph 175 ft 0.91 g

Lexus SC430

$62,000 6.2 sec 14.6 sec 156 mph 175 ft 0.84 g

Mazda MX5 Miata

$23,000 7.6 sec 16.1 sec 119 mph 181 ft 0.88 g

1990 Mazda RX7

$19,600 8.6 sec 16.7 sec 130 mph

N/A

0.81 g

Mercedes-Benz C32 

$58,462 5.1 sec 13.6 sec 155 mph 165 ft 0.86 g

Mercury Cougar V6

$20,500 N/A 16.2 sec 136 mph 183 ft 0.83 g
Mitsubishi Eclipse GST $23,200 6.5 sec 14.9 sec 154 mph N/A N/A

Mitsu Eclipse GT

$21,000 7.0 sec 15.4 sec 144 mph 211 ft 0.81 g

Mitsu Lancer Evo VII

$29,995 4.7 sec 12.7 sec 158 mph N/A N/A

Nissan Maxima SE

$28,500 7.0 sec 15.6 sec 140 mph 195 ft 0.80 g

Nissan Skyline GT-R 

$90,000 5.2 sec 13.7 sec 160 mph 159 ft 0.89 g

Nissan Sentra SE

$15,500 8.0 sec 16.3 sec 124 mph 194 ft 0.85 g

Pontiac Grand Am GT

$21,000 7.7 sec 16.0 sec 126 mph 179 ft 0.82 g

Pontiac Sunfire GT

$15,000 7.7 sec 15.9 sec 130 mph (200 ft) 0.80 g

Porsche 911 GT2

$187,535 3.6 sec 11.9 sec 195 mph (160 ft) 1.02g

Porsche 911 Turbo

$118,535 3.9 sec 12.3 sec 192 mph (163 ft) 0.93 g

Porsche Carrea 4

$83,066 5.0 sec 13.5 sec 162 mph (160 ft) 0.95 g

Saturn SC2

$19,000 8.2 sec 16.4 sec 122 mph 176 ft 0.83 g
Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS $21,000 8.2 sec 16.3 sec 127 mph 191 ft 0.81 g
Subaru WRX $25,000 5.6 sec 14.5 sec 140 mph n/a 0.88 g

Toyota Supra Turbo

$49,000 4.9 sec 13.4 sec 168 mph (N/A) 0 g

Toyota Celica GT

$21,000 7.9 sec 16.3 sec 123 mph (175 ft) 0.83 g

Toyota Celica GTS

$24,500 7.2 sec 15.7 sec 129 mph 168 ft 0.86 g

Toyota MR2 Spyder

$23,500 6.8 sec 15.6 sec 121 mph 161 ft 0.88 g

VW GTI 1.8T

$21,000 7.3 sec 15.9 sec 131 mph 185 ft 0.80 g

VW GTI VR6

$22,500 6.8 sec 15.3 sec 135 mph (185 ft) 0.80 g

VW Turbo Beetle

$20,500 7.3 sec 15.9 sec 133 mph 189 ft 0.81 g


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you could just buy an issue of Car and Driver and the road digest is in the last pages and tells you all that needed info on production cars now, but not older ones. Anyway, the Civic now is slow as crap.


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ok, here is a sample sorted by
acceleration (0-60):

Honda Civic Si $18,000 7.2 sec 15.7 sec 127 mph 199 ft 0.83 g
Acura Integra GS-R $22,500 7.2 sec 15.7 sec 134 mph 183 ft 0.81 g
Toyota Celica GTS $24,500 7.2 sec 15.7 sec 129 mph 168 ft 0.86 g
VW GTI 1.8T $21,000 7.3 sec 15.9 sec 131 mph 185 ft 0.80 g
VW Turbo Beetle $20,500 7.3 sec 15.9 sec 133 mph 189 ft 0.81 g
BMW 323i $27,500 7.5 sec 15.7 sec 130 mph (165 ft) 0.85 g
Honda Accord $24,500 7.6 sec 16.0 sec 129 mph 187 ft 0.80 g
Mazda MX5 Miata $23,000 7.6 sec 16.1 sec 119 mph 181 ft 0.88 g
Chevy Cavalier Z24 $15,000 7.7 sec 15.9 sec 130 mph (200 ft) 0.80 g
Dodge Neon RT $15,500 7.7 sec 16.4 sec 126 mph 181 ft 0.86 g
Pontiac Grand Am GT $21,000 7.7 sec 16.0 sec 126 mph 179 ft 0.82 g
Pontiac Sunfire GT $15,000 7.7 sec 15.9 sec 130 mph (200 ft) 0.80 g
Audi A4 1.8T $23,000 7.9 sec 15.9 sec 130 mph (185 ft) 0.80 g
Toyota Celica GT $21,000 7.9 sec 16.3 sec 123 mph (175 ft) 0.83 g

Its the same order for the sort by 1/4 mile. wtf? civic si equal to the gts? where did you get this data from???
and notice the gt, how far below the civic si???

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when the celica gts first came out in 2000, car and driver did a road test and reported a 0-60 time of 6.6sec.(integra type R was 6.1sec.)then when the 2002 came out with lower fuel cut off all the mags started rating the celica at 7.2 and 7.3...i have a 2000 and ive timed myself at just under 7sec. any one else timed there 0-60?


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Hmmm, looks to me, nothing can come close to TOUCHING the evo VII with a 10 foot pole in the price/value ratio =O

Boy the Evo VII were nice, too bad they don't really sell them here cry

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i like the celicas better than those other cars

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personally i dont think that Porsche's are exotic cars anymore and i think this proves it. Porsche is on this list along with Toyota, VW, Mitsubishi, etc. there are no Ferraris, Lamborghinis, etc. on this list. i dont think that a Porsche is an exotic car company anymore because you never see commercials for Ferrari. Ferrari doesnt make an SUV, there are too many Porsches being produced each year (i was at a car show today and about 75% of the cars were Porsche), and when i was at the show a 1973 was right next to 2002- they looked basically the same. in 30 years a car should look entirely different but the Porsche doesnt change. they still make incredibley fast vehicles, but i dont think they can be considered "exotics" anymore. this is just my opinion and im sure somebody will disagree and get upset, but its my $0.02


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These times are way off. That is all I have to say.

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Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
These times are way off. That is all I have to say.

Not all the times will be the same, it all differs by a little in all car magazines, and websites... you just have to consider the variants in the testing of these times... weather, percipitation, altitude, track, driver, etc... but also keep in mind, these don't have the model years, so that could be a factor smile

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maybe it costs more to produce ferrari's and lambos than it does to produce porsches.

Originally Posted by speedinjq
personally i dont think that Porsche's are exotic cars anymore and i think this proves it. Porsche is on this list along with Toyota, VW, Mitsubishi, etc. there are no Ferraris, Lamborghinis, etc. on this list. i dont think that a Porsche is an exotic car company anymore because you never see commercials for Ferrari. Ferrari doesnt make an SUV, there are too many Porsches being produced each year (i was at a car show today and about 75% of the cars were Porsche), and when i was at the show a 1973 was right next to 2002- they looked basically the same. in 30 years a car should look entirely different but the Porsche doesnt change. they still make incredibley fast vehicles, but i dont think they can be considered "exotics" anymore. this is just my opinion and im sure somebody will disagree and get upset, but its my $0.02

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I never knew porsche was considered exotic. I thought it was more luxury.

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Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
I never knew porsche was considered exotic. I thought it was more luxury.

i thought its a sports car spineyes, by the way, if i want a honda car, i will deffinitely get the S2000, thats just me grin


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Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
I never knew porsche was considered exotic. I thought it was more luxury.

Porsche a while back use to be considered an exotic car along with Lamborghini and Ferrari's. It was until not too long ago, I think they had a transition between their buyers. Porsche was looking more into the performance luxury market, right up with Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes. They also saw the rise in SUV sales, thus the Cayenne. Their cars are still priced pretty high, but they can't just change that. They are still Porsche and won't change what they are known for.


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