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angusGT Jun 7, 6:02pm - #193768 
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JET V-Force PCM

Anyone have this for their Celica? Web page says it'll give you as much as 22 additional hp. I was looking at getting a PCM for mine and found this one. anyone know of any better ones? Anyone have this one? Thanks.
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slidr Jun 7, 6:17pm - #193769 

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Nothing buy forced induction will give you that much power.


What is it, a piggyback ECU?

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angusGT Jun 7, 6:52pm - #193770 
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yeah, it acts as a go between for the engie read-outs and the ECU. My thoughts are that this is a much more controlled way of adding hp. Plus it can be turned on and off with the flick of a switch.

BTW, here's the web address:
http://www.jetchip.com/
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trog2233 Jun 7, 7:00pm - #193771 

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looks like a crock of shit...our ecu will probably just bypass it anyways thumbsdown
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slidr Jun 7, 7:02pm - #193772 

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Originally Posted by angusGT

yeah, it acts as a go between for the engie read-outs and the ECU. My thoughts are that this is a much more controlled way of adding hp. Plus it can be turned on and off with the flick of a switch.

BTW, here's the web address:
http://www.jetchip.com/
Unless it's a fuel management product, then it won't do a thing. Piggy back ECU's don't work for our cars.

The Apexi replacement ECU does work though, since it COMPLETELY replaces our entire ECU. They are quite expensive though, and you have to have it calibrated by a pro, which means having dynos of your car taken, etc.

Definitely not something meant for an average enthusiast.
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angusGT Jun 7, 7:07pm - #193773 
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Yeah, I kinda thought the same thing. I was actually hoping that Hypertech would have a power programmer for our ECU's, but unfortunately they don't. I've seen what Hypertech can do with a mustang... 43hp gain on a stock Cobra.
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slidr Jun 7, 7:10pm - #193774 

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Originally Posted by angusGT
Yeah, I kinda thought the same thing. I was actually hoping that Hypertech would have a power programmer for our ECU's, but unfortunately they don't. I've seen what Hypertech can do with a mustang... 43hp gain on a stock Cobra.
Unfortunately, our ECU's are a pain in the ass. Only thing you can do is replace it.

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angusGT Jun 7, 7:28pm - #193775 
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So which would you recommend? Keep in mind I want to keep it street legal.
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slidr Jun 7, 7:31pm - #193776 

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I could be wrong but I think the Apexi is the only stand alone replacement ECU for our cars. Is that what you want, or are you looking for a fuel management system?

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Lucky_317 Jun 7, 7:43pm - #193777 

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rip-off smile power fc when used correctly can be a beautiful thing.

remember - you get what you pay for thumbsup

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angusGT Jun 7, 7:53pm - #193778 
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I was checking out the Power FC from Apexi. I don't live anywhere near any of the power excel shops to get it tuned properly. I do like their S-AFC though. I'm not sure of the benefits of it though.
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Illusive Jun 7, 7:55pm - #193779 
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Originally Posted by angusGT

I was checking out the Power FC from Apexi. I don't live anywhere near any of the power excel shops to get it tuned properly. I do like their S-AFC though. I'm not sure of the benefits of it though.


s-afc is just as bad as the jetchip/venom chip/any other crap out there besides a full standalone,

please use the search function in the future, this has been debated in countless threads...

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angusGT Jun 7, 7:59pm - #193780 
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I did a search for the JET V-Force... Nothing came up.
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Illusive Jun 7, 8:06pm - #193781 
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Originally Posted by angusGT
I did a search for the JET V-Force... Nothing came up.


you mean nothing like this...

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthrea...7420&Forum=,,,f4,,,&Words=jet%20chip&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Main=1869967213&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=0&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=1#Post1869967420

and this
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthrea...8688&Forum=,,,,,f4,,,,,&Words=jet%20chip&Searchpage=4&Limit=25&Main=1869814606&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=0&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=1#Post1869948688

or what about this
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthrea...8429&Forum=,,,,,,f4,,,,,,&Words=jet%20chip&Searchpage=5&Limit=25&Main=1869914762&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=0&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=1#Post1869918429

okay i'm tired of searching smile

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angusGT Jun 7, 8:35pm - #193782 
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Unless I missed something, none of those posts have to do with the JET V-Force PCM. The V-Force isn't a chip, it's a piggyback system. The posts you referred to didn't cover this piece of equipment. And I do make an effort to check before posting.
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Illusive Jun 7, 11:06pm - #193783 
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Originally Posted by angusGT
Unless I missed something, none of those posts have to do with the JET V-Force PCM. The V-Force isn't a chip, it's a piggyback system. The posts you referred to didn't cover this piece of equipment. And I do make an effort to check before posting.


so far only one piggy back has been proven to work and thats the split second piggy back ecu, you still have to have it tuned, and the only person using them is stafford fabrications on their Turbo set ups.

other than that only other alernative is the apexi power fc,

I cant see how you would concider a product from a company that is already known to not work or provide any gains, on a conglomerate of vehicles, not just the celica.

the posts i linked were so you could get a general understanding of piggy backs & chips in general so questions like this would not be asked again.

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